Missing sub has around 40 hrs oxygen

[canetoad]

This was posted around 3 hours ago, bringing it to around 37 hours. I think the chaces of bringing it up with any survivors is about zero.

Forty hours of breathable air left: Rescuers yet to find missing Titan submersible

Washington: A tourist vessel carrying five people on an expedition to see the wreck of the Titanic is running out of oxygen as authorities race against time to find survivors in the face of logistical challenges.

Almost two days after the submersible, known as the Titan, disappeared off the coast of Canada, rescuers had not yet located the missing vessel. The US Coast Guard has warned that its passengers only had “about 40 hours of breathable air left”.

US Coast Guard captain Jamie Frederick said authorities were doing everything they could to find the Titan and its passengers in the face of “unique” challenges such as deep water ocean pressure, limited visibility and the remoteness of the dive site.

“Our crews are working around the clock to ensure that we’re doing everything possible to locate the Titan and the five crew members,” Frederick said.

“But this is a complex search. It’s complex for a variety of reasons.”
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/complex-search-rescuers-yet-to-find-missing-titan-submersible-as-time-ticks-down-20230621-p5di50.html

[MarineCombatEngineer]

1. I'm of the opinion that the submersible imploded,

I seriously doubt that there's any chance of them being alive at this point.

At least if it imploded, it was quick as opposed to suffocation.

[yardwork]

4. I think the same. I fear it will never be found.

A small vessel like that would crumple to practically nothing if it imploded at that depth. The fact that the ship lost all communications all at once seems very ominous.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

14. Or maybe they will find it.

And someone will pay $500k to view the wreckage…

[yardwork]

20. Why does this make me think of Roman emperors.

[NutmegYankee]

17. I think so too.

[bluestarone]

28. Feeling the same hear.

I believe they lost contact not to long after it dived. Probably right after it reached the depth the safety worker told them it could go.

[ret5hd]

31. Shortly after firing the safety guy, a new button appeared:

[2naSalit]

30. +1

[brer cat]

2. Nothing we are hearing is very encouraging.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

3. Man, if they are still alive, things could get pretty "Lord of the Flies" down there (nt)

[yardwork]

5. I pray they're not. It's horrible to imagine.

I hope it was very quick. If the little sub lost pressure through an air leak or something, it might have imploded before they even knew anything was wrong.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

8. It is terrible to imagine

I cannot even fathom how the stress they're under if they're still alive. How incredibly terrifying

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

6. Simpsons writer reveals expedition waiver he signed listed 'three ways to die on page one'

Former Titanic sub tourist and Simpsons writer reveals expedition waiver he signed listed 'three ways to die on page one' and that he is 'not optimistic' about rescue mission

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12215697/Former-Titanic-sub-tourist-reveals-expedition-waiver-listed-three-ways-die-page-one.html

Speaking to the BBC today, Mr Reiss revealed he has been on three separate dives including the one to the Titanic and that each had 'lost communication'.

He also detailed the experience of being onboard the luxury submersible, which tourists fork out $250,000 to travel on to the wreckage.

'The experience going down was very relaxing, it's a beautifully-designed submarine that feels almost spa-like on the inside. So even though there's five people just sitting on the floor of something that's about the size of a minivan it's very comfortable.

'I fell asleep on the way down it's 2.5 hours of just dropping in the very quiet and there is a porthole but all you see is blackness.'

He said even though they made it to within 500 metres of the Titanic, the sub had to spend 'a good 90 minutes just doing a random walk on the bottom of the ocean, just flailing around and trying to find the biggest boat in the world'.

The passengers on his expedition only had a short amount of time to see what he described as the 'highlights' of the world famous wreck.

'Twenty minutes before we had to resurface we finally saw the Titanic and I have to say it was just enough in our case for a highlights tour, we looked at the anchor, looked at the porthole, looked at the bow of the ship and then we had to go back up.

'It shows you the unpredictability of it all. The next day they sent another 5 passengers down to see it and they circled it and got to see every inch of it.

[yardwork]

21. I don't get it. There are high quality videos of the Titanic wreck.

They don't see anything going down in person that they can't see on Netflix at home.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

23. rich people looking for the next thrill... adventure others cant afford.

[yardwork]

25. That seems very decadent to me.

Big waste of money. Conspicuous consumption.

[Sky Jewels]

32. Bragging rights and Instagram pics. They get to post photos of themselves above the Titanic or

on the summit of Everest or riding in Elon's fucking rocket or some other ill-advised "adventure."

I'm sure social media has increased the demand for this kind of showing off exponentially.

Also, I gather that a lot of these rich fucks think they're immune to disaster because their lives have been a bed or roses and they're entitled to have everything go well for them because, well, they're special.

[democratsruletheday]

26. yep

as my grand pappy used to say: they've got more money than brains

[Cuthbert Allgood]

29. It's not my thing, but I get it.

You are actually seeing it and not footage.

I want to go to see where Wordsworth wrote Tinted Abby. I can see video of the words by the river, but I want to be there. Same with going to Dublin to see the geography Joyce was writing about in Ulysses. I can see all the footage I want, but I want to be there.

Now this is obviously more dangerous, but I get the sentiment.

[yardwork]

39. I don't see that as the same.

They are literally looking out an 18 inch plexiglass window at a few bits and pieces of the Titanic. They can't touch it, breathe it, feel it. They are literally seeing the same images - fewer, and probably lower quality - than they can see in a documentary.

Going to a castle, abbey, river, city is a completely different experience. You can touch things, breathe tge air, walk around, be part of it.

[LisaL]

34. I am sure danger is the part of the thrill.

There is no danger in watching Netflix, is there?

[sky_masterson]

7. I don't think that thing was actually rated for the depths it was going.

If they arent floating on the surface right now, they are most certainly dead. It had to of imploded.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

9. Or it was rated for it originally, then someone skimped on maintenance to save some bucks

And it became ... not rated for it.

[sky_masterson]

10. I agree with your assessment

100%

[ecstatic]

12. Interesting point. nt

[Xolodno]

16. That's what happens on many engineering issues.

CEO or some other big boss cut labor costs (i.e. fire people) and the maintenance crew has to take short cuts, let some items go unchecked for longer times, etc.

I remember Disneyland had a spate of accidents, some deadly during Eisner's tenure. He had analysts looking for ways to cut down on labor (despite making a ton of profit). In one article I read, an analyst approached a maintenance guy and asked why did they check wheels of an attraction every night since their data shows they never break down. He responded, they never break down because we check them every night.

Come to think of it, even in the Finance arena where I work, it happens, but not with deadly repercussions. New boss comes in, fires a lot of what he perceived to be dead weight. Six months later he asks a manager if they could embark on a particular project that would provide some insight and perhaps increase revenue. The manager said 'no'. He ask why and he told him six months earlier he just fired everyone that had the expertise to do said project.

[tinrobot]

19. Every time they go down, it weakens the hull.

That constant pressurization/depressurization can be very stressful.

The original safety inspector asked for tests to check the carbon fiber hull, but they fired him instead of doing the tests. That was years ago. Doubt any tests were ever done.

[Brother Buzz]

38. There's not much they can do about maintaining the hull integrity

Every time they go down and stress the hull, a boatload of carbon fibers break. Repeated cycles simply weakens the hull further. It's a guessing game to determine what it should have been rated for on its last dive, but it sounds like the fired safety office, erring on the side of caution, might have been right.

[MontanaMama]

11. I hope it was quick for them.

I can’t imagine forking out $150,000 or more and end up dying this way.

[Raine]

13. I think most likely they're already dead. 😔 nt

[ecstatic]

15. Does the oxygen get used up more quickly if passengers are panicking?

This is horrible. I hope they don't suffer. Also, sending thoughts to the 300 migrants who died at sea off the coast of Greece.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

18. Yes,

that's why during WWII, submarine crews were instructed to minimize activity while pinned down by enemy forces, off duty crews were confined to their bunks to conserve O2 while underwater, unlike modern subs, which create their own O2.

[Scrivener7]

22. What was the reason for not carrying a locator signal?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

24. Money? Greed? Arrogance?

All of the above?

Safety didn't seem to be a big concern with this company.

[Scrivener7]

27. Such an insane decision.

I grew up on the water. You don't mess with an ocean.

[canetoad]

33. One saying I always heed

When I'm on the rocks or beach, "Never turn your back on the sea."

[EX500rider]

37. Do they have one that works at 13,000ft down?

Court documents also state that Lochridge learned that the manufacturers of the Titan’s forward viewport only certified it to a depth of 1,300 metres. The Titanic wreck lies 3,800 metres below the ocean surface.
d'oh!
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-65953941

[Scrivener7]

41. They have ULBs for planes, but I don't know how deep they work.

That whole venture sounds so irresponsible. What a nightmarish way to go.

[Conjuay]

35. If there was an electrical failure,

the amount of O2 would mean nothing. They will have frozen to death before suffocating.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

36. I think it's a safe bet to say

they're swimming with the fishes.

[harumph]

40. Whole misadventure was stupid from the get go.

No beacon - it had no built in beacon. I mean that's the bare minimum. I heard a sub expert saying
the design was experimental and he would not get in it. This same shit is going to happen with
space tourism - mark it down.

[Scrivener7]

42. And one of them is a 19 year old kid.