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svpadgham

(670 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:19 PM Nov 2012

My Response to the Wanna Be Secessionists.

I posted this on my FB account. These are my words and feeling as clumsy as they may be.

This is a day late:
I have heard a lot of talk about seceding from the United States lately. Ironically, much of it comes from the same people who thanked me for my service this past Veterans Day. I would like to make some things clear. I am not a huge fan of what our military has to do at the behest of our government, but I did serve. I served not for the powers that be nor for what could be gained. I served because of the concept of the United States, the concept that when all we have and all we are have been united we can pull through any adversity. This concept is what empowers not me, not you, but us.
I would like the figurative you out there to consider something. What will happen when you are no longer a part of us? There are all manner of things that will have to be put into place once you become sovereign nations. Who will help you when you need it? How will you be affected? Your businesses? Your infrastructure? There is a reason we can live the way we do and help as often as we do. It's because we are The United States of America. Even if you leave we will still be The United States of America, and if you fail we will take you back, and we will still be The United States of America.
Now, I'd like you to consider how the people who served this nation to preserve the concept and it's people must feel when you say you no longer wish to be a part of it just because you aren't getting what you want. When you tell me "thanks for your service," and then talk of secession, you can take your "thanks" and stick it up your ass. To me you are a hypocrite and a borderline traitor. You have no clue what this nation stands for.

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My Response to the Wanna Be Secessionists. (Original Post) svpadgham Nov 2012 OP
Secession petitions are grown-up tantrums. If these people were serious, they'd move valerief Nov 2012 #1
True svpadgham Nov 2012 #3
Yep. I likened it to bunch of butt-hurt monkeys beating their chests and flinging their poo. TalkingDog Nov 2012 #4
Righties never run out of shit to fling. valerief Nov 2012 #5
No borderline to it. 99Forever Nov 2012 #2
Excellent! dae Nov 2012 #6
Rhodesia doesn't exist anymore Squaredeal Nov 2012 #7
Saudi Arabia is a good example. alfredo Nov 2012 #8
Somalia has femrap Nov 2012 #11
Maybe Petoria svpadgham Nov 2012 #13
There are still quite a few. JoeyT Nov 2012 #14
Uganda Liberalagogo Nov 2012 #15
As far as I am concerned, and secessionist freepers and lurkers listen close, ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #9
My response to the femrap Nov 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author world wide wally Nov 2012 #27
The War of Northern Aggression ? rablrouzer Nov 2012 #12
Secession leanforward Nov 2012 #16
We should respect their ethics, or is it pathos, and deny them. WCLinolVir Nov 2012 #19
The best line... cynatnite Nov 2012 #17
Six words.... Liberalagogo Nov 2012 #18
I had a bumper sticker back in the late 60's that said "Vietnam, love it or leave it" world wide wally Nov 2012 #26
From another veteran to those who want to secede. don't the door hit you in the ass as you leave! zwyziec Nov 2012 #20
First off, thank you for your service ffr Nov 2012 #21
I have always given my students a "magic word" for them to use in their lives. End their sentences icarusxat Nov 2012 #22
Go ahead and take your ball and go home - childish know nothings on point Nov 2012 #23
no one is going to secede Go Vols Nov 2012 #24
That kind of information gets lost in the noise Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #28
I understand it's not going to happen, svpadgham Nov 2012 #30
Sometimes I would love to just let them go world wide wally Nov 2012 #25
Especially Texas! grahamhgreen Nov 2012 #29

valerief

(53,235 posts)
1. Secession petitions are grown-up tantrums. If these people were serious, they'd move
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:24 PM
Nov 2012

to Somalia for limited government and their freedumbS.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
4. Yep. I likened it to bunch of butt-hurt monkeys beating their chests and flinging their poo.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:46 PM
Nov 2012

They will calm down once they are out of poo to fling.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
14. There are still quite a few.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:55 AM
Nov 2012

The social conservatives would probably be quite happy in Saudi Arabia or Iran, the fiscal conservatives would be tickled pink to live in Dubai, and the libertarian wing would find Somalia more to their liking.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
15. Uganda
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:05 AM
Nov 2012

They can kill the gays there, now.

Too bad the place is a shit-hole....but the wingnuts seem happiest when they wallow in their own shit.

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
10. My response to the
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:17 AM
Nov 2012

them is: Buh-Bye!!!! I'm sick of the mostly the Southern Senators f*cking up my world.

Response to femrap (Reply #10)

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
17. The best line...
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:08 AM
Nov 2012
When you tell me "thanks for your service," and then talk of secession, you can take your "thanks" and stick it up your ass.

Excellent post!
 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
18. Six words....
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:09 AM
Nov 2012

which by a strange quirk of fate...these "secessionists" were screeching themselves a while back, need hurling right back in their faces:

AMERICA. LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!

world wide wally

(21,755 posts)
26. I had a bumper sticker back in the late 60's that said "Vietnam, love it or leave it"
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:07 AM
Nov 2012

I loved that bumper sticker, but some redneck tore it off my car

zwyziec

(173 posts)
20. From another veteran to those who want to secede. don't the door hit you in the ass as you leave!
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:14 AM
Nov 2012

I've got your back svpadgham!

I served six years in the US Navy, because it was the right thing to do.

Finished my degree in physics. Got married, raised a family and retired.

As I look back on my life those years in the service were wonderful. They rounded out my life experiences, opened my mind to other points of view and yes, I did see the world!

To those people, mostly in the Red States, that want to secede, don't like the door hit you in your ass as you're leaving!

USS Boston CAG-1
Guided Missile Heavy Cruiser
Charleston, MA
ETR5

ffr

(22,671 posts)
21. First off, thank you for your service
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:16 AM
Nov 2012


What you just said is near perfect to what I was trying to wrap my head around today, while trying to think of reasons why I would want to sign a petition to secede from our union.

Putting myself in their shoes; where to even begin and why would I even be thinking of such a treasonous idea? You have to really think it through. Would you be willing to take up arms to get your way, another civil war, killing your fellow man, KILLING YOUR FELLOW MAN??? Because of one election? You think that 2010 wasn't any more humbling for the Dems? It's called an election for a reason. We the people, election our representatives. They represent us and speak for us.

As much as I disagree with all the red Republican friends, neighbors and colleagues, it disgusts me to think of bearing arms, them against us, crosshairs in a gunsight. SICK! The people in these red states either haven't thought it through or they are truly mental.

We need to push for federal education standards with at least one critical thinking course as a mandatory part of the curriculum.

icarusxat

(403 posts)
22. I have always given my students a "magic word" for them to use in their lives. End their sentences
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:35 AM
Nov 2012

that begin with can't, with the word yet.
Now I have another magic word...Us
I am a vet, and have always put my money where my mouth is
This country is worth fighting for and living for and working for...

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
24. no one is going to secede
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:00 AM
Nov 2012

Petitions have been filed for New York,Missouri,New Jersey,Oregon,among others.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
28. That kind of information gets lost in the noise
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:26 AM
Nov 2012

It's always more fun for some people here just to blow something like this WAY out of proportion and blame Southerners for all the country's ills.

svpadgham

(670 posts)
30. I understand it's not going to happen,
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:18 PM
Nov 2012

but it is a slap in the face to many of the veterans and family members they claim to support.

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