Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

UCmeNdc

(9,655 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 08:26 AM Jun 2023

Trump's new plan: "Planted by scoundrels!' Trump demands GOP allies investigate purported FBI setup

"It is all a set up!", says Trump

Former President Donald Trump on Thursday issued an angry demand for Republican allies to launch investigations into the multiple criminal probes he faces.

In a furious Truth Social post, the former president also insinuated without any evidence that the FBI planted top-secret government documents in boxes he stashed at his Mar-a-Lago resort.

"Congress will hopefully now look at the ever continuing Witch Hunts and ELECTION INTERFERENCE against me on perfectly legal Boxes, where I have no doubt that information is being secretly 'planted' by the scoundrels in charge, the Perfect Phone Calls (Atlanta), the illegal DOJ/Pomerantz/Manhattan D.A. Hoax, where virtually EVERYONE agrees THERE IS NO CASE, and the NYSAG SCAM, where I have proven beyond a doubt that there is no case, but have a hostile Judge who should not be on this case!" Trump wrote.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-fbi-planted-documents/
35 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Trump's new plan: "Planted by scoundrels!' Trump demands GOP allies investigate purported FBI setup (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jun 2023 OP
Did he forget that he already claimed the documents were his? ecstatic Jun 2023 #1
Count on the orange traitor to be inconsistent. wnylib Jun 2023 #23
His thing is to throw as much shit out there that people can't keep track of what's what. TheBlackAdder Jun 2023 #31
EXACTLY johnnyfins Jun 2023 #35
We don't need to interfere in his election. Half the country or more hates his guts Walleye Jun 2023 #2
I dream of the day when he no longer crowds out the light, calimary Jun 2023 #3
Scoundrels! Now he's channeling Foghorn Leghorn. tanyev Jun 2023 #4
Scalawags and rapscallions even EYESORE 9001 Jun 2023 #6
LOLOLOL Perfect! FalloutShelter Jun 2023 #7
But were there any mountebanks or bounders involved? Rob H. Jun 2023 #28
This is not the rantings of a mad man, gab13by13 Jun 2023 #5
good point. niyad Jun 2023 #13
He is also calling on the ReTHUG led House to malaise Jun 2023 #17
I've just finished watching a series on Nazi Germany wnylib Jun 2023 #26
Yes they will continuetrying malaise Jun 2023 #27
This is getting ridiculous JanLip Jun 2023 #8
Judges order jonstl08 Jun 2023 #9
Judge did not issue a gag order not to talk about the case Jersey Devil Jun 2023 #14
Misread jonstl08 Jun 2023 #16
Understood, but the more he talks the better it is for Smith Jersey Devil Jun 2023 #32
No. Not a gray area. Caliman73 Jun 2023 #33
Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange, RAPIST, TRAITOR**. niyad Jun 2023 #10
Which is it, TRAITOR**??? You had every right to those documents, or fbi niyad Jun 2023 #11
In Trump's mind (stupid and addled as it is) anything he says is true, for him. Caliman73 Jun 2023 #34
He's cornered and he's terrified...... anciano Jun 2023 #12
And yet he continues to try. malaise Jun 2023 #18
I thought he had reached Progressive dog Jun 2023 #15
For real!? kentuck Jun 2023 #19
Man, give it a rest! Conjuay Jun 2023 #20
Just like a sociopath. When one story doesn't work leftyladyfrommo Jun 2023 #21
That might have worked if he hadn't repeatedly stated that he kept the documents on purpose. yardwork Jun 2023 #22
Scoundrels! Also rapscallions, miscreants, charlatans, villains and reprobates! Ocelot II Jun 2023 #24
Yeah... the House GQP should go ask Meadows under oath... Justice matters. Jun 2023 #25
I guess he's given up on the "witch hunt" claims FakeNoose Jun 2023 #29
'I was framed!!!" C_U_L8R Jun 2023 #30

ecstatic

(35,128 posts)
1. Did he forget that he already claimed the documents were his?
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 08:29 AM
Jun 2023

That he had every right to the material? Classified or not?

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
31. His thing is to throw as much shit out there that people can't keep track of what's what.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:26 AM
Jun 2023

johnnyfins

(3,937 posts)
35. EXACTLY
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 03:20 PM
Jun 2023

Problem is, the bullshit firehose doesnt work as well when you're NOT PRESIDENT. It also doesnt work as well when you are now indicted in multiple cases and most of the American People just want you to be gone. The one thing Bill Barr has gotten right: "He's Toast"

calimary

(90,577 posts)
3. I dream of the day when he no longer crowds out the light,
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 08:34 AM
Jun 2023

the pollution-free air and airwaves.

When, as they say in aviation about “traffic” in the sky applies: “no longer a factor.”

Rob H.

(5,886 posts)
28. But were there any mountebanks or bounders involved?
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 10:54 AM
Jun 2023

These are the important questions more people should be asking.

malaise

(297,555 posts)
17. He is also calling on the ReTHUG led House to
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 09:56 AM
Jun 2023

Muddy the waters with their ongoing fake hearings.
They are still working on a coup.

wnylib

(26,351 posts)
26. I've just finished watching a series on Nazi Germany
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 10:28 AM
Jun 2023

and this latest rant sounds remarkably similar to Hitler's rants as the Allies were closing in on him and Hitler's military leaders were conceding among themselves that the war was lost.

But I agree that this rant from Trump is calculated to affect public opinion, taint the jury pool, and possibly boost support for another coup attempt.

Have you heard Ruth Ben Ghiat's comments on the likelihood that another attempt is being planned? She believes that some underground planning is probably going on. She's an expert on authoritarian takeovers so, although she could be wrong, I pay attention to what she says.

JanLip

(862 posts)
8. This is getting ridiculous
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 08:55 AM
Jun 2023

This idiot needs to be put away for good. If only certain people would get going and haul his behind to jail. Enough already. Every time I read something else he’s said I think will this ever end. This is the most evil person who shouldn’t be walking among sane people. He is just a waste of air and space. I’m getting to the point I can’t take him anymore.

Jan. 🤬😡

jonstl08

(572 posts)
9. Judges order
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 08:56 AM
Jun 2023

Did his statement violate the judges order not to talk about the documents case?

Jersey Devil

(10,849 posts)
14. Judge did not issue a gag order not to talk about the case
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 09:08 AM
Jun 2023

Trump has been ordered not to talk about the discovery information turned over to him and his lawyers or to make any part of them public. He has NOT been ordered gagged about talking about the case in general.

Let him babble. All he is doing is providing more wood for the fire Smith is building under him.

jonstl08

(572 posts)
16. Misread
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 09:50 AM
Jun 2023

You are correct. I misread the judges order. But by saying the boxes were planted is that a grey area of talking about the evidence. Not a lawyer so just asking.

Jersey Devil

(10,849 posts)
32. Understood, but the more he talks the better it is for Smith
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:02 PM
Jun 2023

All the statements Trump makes are admissable at trial as admissions against interest. So even if Trump doesn't testify (if he did his lawyers would jump off bridges) Smith can get in evidence all Trump's stupidest statements maybe even better than he could do it on cross examination.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
33. No. Not a gray area.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:22 PM
Jun 2023

He simply cannot provide information about what was inside the boxes. He can't say, "This document from April 10, 2019 from the Pentagon about Iran, I declassified it".

Smith was very clear with the judge that he did not want any restrictions on Trump. The judge unilaterally decided that the contents of the boxes were verboten. Likely thought that Trump was very likely to disclose internal secrets of the United States and wondered why Smith wouldn't want that restricted.

Smith very likely knows that Trump can't keep his stupid mouth shut and will end up making Smith's case stronger every time he says something.

Trump thinks that because his lawyers will most definitely, not let him testify, that he has to put out "his side of the story" before trial. What he is doing is giving testimony that can be presented as evidence against himself with contradictory statements, and information that can be presented as cross examination of claims.

niyad

(133,692 posts)
11. Which is it, TRAITOR**??? You had every right to those documents, or fbi
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 09:03 AM
Jun 2023

planted them??? Both cannot be true.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
34. In Trump's mind (stupid and addled as it is) anything he says is true, for him.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:39 PM
Jun 2023

He can't be wrong so if he makes a false statement or something contradictory, it doesn't matter. What he is saying in the moment is true in the moment.

His brain is truly a steaming pile of crap.

Did you see the interview with Fox, where he is first saying how he is going to implement a policy to give the death penalty to drug dealers, then he brags about pardoning or commuting the sentence of Alice Johnson, a woman serving 50 years for her part in a multimillion dollar cocaine and cannabis ring?

Baier asked him, "You realize that she would be killed under your policy?" and he was like, "Huh?... no, uh, well... It depends on the severity of the charge" Baier was like, "She was involved in a million dollar cocaine ring..." Trump: "... No. She wouldn't...she... we're talking about as of now...we wouldn't go back and kill someone..."

Utterly stupid. He is either so stupid that he doesn't understand a hypothetical or he is so weak that he can't even admit that the policy he wants to implement would literally kill people EXACTLY like the person he was bragging about pardoning.

I don't even care that he pardoned her. I have my own ideas about drugs and policing, especially regarding policing of minority communities. The point is the idiot cannot think correctly and shouldn't be running a popsicle stand let alone running for the presidency.

anciano

(2,295 posts)
12. He's cornered and he's terrified......
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 09:04 AM
Jun 2023

For perhaps the first time in his life, he is being held accountable and can't buy or bluff his way out.
How sweet it is!

Progressive dog

(7,612 posts)
15. I thought he had reached
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 09:43 AM
Jun 2023

the bottom of the hole he's been digging. Apparently he is even stupider than I thought.

Conjuay

(3,099 posts)
20. Man, give it a rest!
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 10:06 AM
Jun 2023

We are tired of you, your bullshit and the thousands of lies we have had to endure.

yardwork

(69,526 posts)
22. That might have worked if he hadn't repeatedly stated that he kept the documents on purpose.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 10:13 AM
Jun 2023

I mean, he said so on Fox News the other day.

Ocelot II

(131,081 posts)
24. Scoundrels! Also rapscallions, miscreants, charlatans, villains and reprobates!
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 10:24 AM
Jun 2023

Gadzooks! Forsooth! My wig and whiskers!

FakeNoose

(42,146 posts)
29. I guess he's given up on the "witch hunt" claims
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:02 AM
Jun 2023

This "FBI setup" screaming won't last long, because Jack Smith already has the proof that it's NOT a setup.

So what's it going to be next? I'm guessing he'll say "I wasn't even there. Walt Nauta did this on his own."

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Trump's new plan: "Plante...