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mopinko

(73,928 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 08:58 AM Jun 2023

ya know, if just 1 of those cowards cracked

just 1, and admitted they were being blackmailed by the serial blackmailer in chief, this whole thing comes tumbling down. doesnt it? or maybe gravity rly no longer applies, but…
of course, they’d also have to reveal their bribes, and go to prison. but the 1st 1 in gets the best deal, so….

some enterprising journo should pick 1 obvious candidate and just dig as hard as they can til they can nail just 1 to the wall. i’d start w the 1s who voted no on the 1st schiff censure, but yes on the 2nd.
cuz imho, that’s how this whole thing works. blackmail and bribery.

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ya know, if just 1 of those cowards cracked (Original Post) mopinko Jun 2023 OP
Yup. They've gamed the system. bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #1
i often wonder about that. mopinko Jun 2023 #2
Definitely need Dems in the ascendancy/majority. We should have legislation teed up on Day One dutch777 Jun 2023 #3
This is going to sound wrong but what if the Dems paid a couple Republicans Maraya1969 Jun 2023 #4
if there isnt some horse trading going on w the biden reps, mopinko Jun 2023 #5

bucolic_frolic

(55,808 posts)
1. Yup. They've gamed the system.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 09:04 AM
Jun 2023

But how does one un-game a system? Putting the genie back in the bottle never happens. It would take a Democratic Majority with 68 Senators and bullet-proof House to pass serious ethics laws. And once they get in power with that kind of leverage they're more in the mode of patting each other on the back than fearing the crooked system they were elected to fix.

Also note how corruption is rampant around the world in all levels of democracies and its variants. Perhaps money has overridden politics. Or too many things are public information these days.

mopinko

(73,928 posts)
2. i often wonder about that.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 09:07 AM
Jun 2023

cook co/illinois have a rep for corruption, but i’ve always contended that it’s just that we actually throw our crooked pols in jail.
in rly corrupt places, no one knows.

dutch777

(5,107 posts)
3. Definitely need Dems in the ascendancy/majority. We should have legislation teed up on Day One
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 09:12 AM
Jun 2023

for when that happens. We would actually be in worse shape had the Repugs had their act together when Trump won in 2016 and had the House and Senate R too. The fact that they didn't repeal Obamacare and mess up even more things was only because their internal squabbling and Trump's real disinterest in real governance ham strung them. Had they has things mapped out and ready to go we would have been even more screwed.

Maraya1969

(23,564 posts)
4. This is going to sound wrong but what if the Dems paid a couple Republicans
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 09:18 AM
Jun 2023

to vote with them? We know these people will do all sorts of things for money. Voting against their party should be easy.

mopinko

(73,928 posts)
5. if there isnt some horse trading going on w the biden reps,
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:32 AM
Jun 2023

imma give up on this party, i swear. not rly, but damn we are hogtied by our ethics in this modern world.

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