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Eugene

(67,101 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:37 PM Jun 2023

Rep. George Santos' $500K bond was guaranteed by his father and his aunt

Rep. George Santos’ $500K bond was guaranteed by his father and his aunt (NBC News)

Several media organizations, including NBCUniversal News Group, had requested that the court unseal the names of the bond guarantors, known as suretors.

WASHINGTON — The father and aunt of Rep. George Santos, R-N.Y., guaranteed his $500,000 bond after he was charged last month with more than a dozen federal counts, a source familiar with the matter confirmed to NBC News on Thursday.

The congressman's father, Gercino Dos Santos, and his aunt, Elma Santos Preven, were the suretors for the bond. They did not have to provide any money upfront — they are only obligated to pay if Santos violates the terms of his release.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-george-santos-500k-bond-was-guaranteed-father-another-relative-rcna90580
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Rep. George Santos' $500K bond was guaranteed by his father and his aunt (Original Post) Eugene Jun 2023 OP
Next up? Who are the suretors for the father and aunt? rsdsharp Jun 2023 #1
Yup. 2naSalit Jun 2023 #16
+1 dalton99a Jun 2023 #29
Their homes. former9thward Jun 2023 #35
I understand they didn't put up money. Show me they have unencumbered real estate rsdsharp Jun 2023 #36
How can I do that? former9thward Jun 2023 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author rsdsharp Jun 2023 #38
generally acknowledged that NJCher Jun 2023 #2
Standard terms in many bail cases. former9thward Jun 2023 #34
Guy who lies about his mom dying in 9.11 sure as heck won't give a toot Maru Kitteh Jun 2023 #3
He's (was) a house painter and auntie is a mail handler. Does the court spooky3 Jun 2023 #9
They may have pledged their homes. That's often the case. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2023 #11
Yep. Nt spooky3 Jun 2023 #13
Stupid NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #14
My Guess NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #15
+1 2naSalit Jun 2023 #17
"unsecured" Effete Snob Jun 2023 #20
Yeah, I know what unsecured means. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2023 #23
Undiluted BS malaise Jun 2023 #12
So why did Santos (if that's his real name) refuse to disclose this information? I don't get it. zuul Jun 2023 #4
that would be pure speculation NJCher Jun 2023 #7
To keep us fighting a false battle; one that would reveal innocent intentions after a big buildup. Earth-shine Jun 2023 #26
well, that turned out to be a big nothingburger NJCher Jun 2023 #5
My Magic 8 Ball thinks his father and aunt were just convenient proxies... Brother Buzz Jun 2023 #10
I am positive that you are right. Tesha Jun 2023 #19
What a sweetheart deal. I thought "bail was bail" & the court always received 100%. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #6
not sure about ny NJCher Jun 2023 #8
Well, bail has to be paid in full, but a bail bondsman will typically getagrip_already Jun 2023 #22
ny got rid of bail bondsmen NJCher Jun 2023 #25
He probably found it embarrassing, at his age, to have to have family bailing him out. Chainfire Jun 2023 #18
Sure. Big lie like everything else cilla4progress Jun 2023 #21
How is it that guys like Santos always seem to have the folks to bail them out? My parents would've allegorical oracle Jun 2023 #24
His family has been dealing with his dishonesty all his life. Earth-shine Jun 2023 #27
His parents created him by always bailing him out. Phoenix61 Jun 2023 #30
So how is that going to make Cha Jun 2023 #28
That could be why the judge allowed disclosure... getagrip_already Jun 2023 #31
Throw them in jail clementine613 Jun 2023 #32
George Santos' dad and aunt, a house painter and a mail carrier respectively, posted his $500,000 bo LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #33

rsdsharp

(12,002 posts)
36. I understand they didn't put up money. Show me they have unencumbered real estate
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 05:48 PM
Jun 2023

worth $500,000.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
37. How can I do that?
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 05:49 PM
Jun 2023

I am not the judge. They would have had to show the judge they had that value.

Response to former9thward (Reply #37)

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
2. generally acknowledged that
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:40 PM
Jun 2023

they are not people of means (his family), although George bilked his aunt out of some dough. That's why this phrase is important:

They did not have to provide any money upfront — they are only obligated to pay if Santos violates the terms of his release.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
34. Standard terms in many bail cases.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 05:42 PM
Jun 2023

They pledge their homes which can easily be more than 500k together.

Maru Kitteh

(31,761 posts)
3. Guy who lies about his mom dying in 9.11 sure as heck won't give a toot
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:40 PM
Jun 2023

about costing his dad and auntie a cool half mil.

spooky3

(38,634 posts)
9. He's (was) a house painter and auntie is a mail handler. Does the court
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:47 PM
Jun 2023

Not require that the guarantors actually have the means to pay if George Santos jumps? If so, who gave the money to daddy and auntie?

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
11. They may have pledged their homes. That's often the case.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:50 PM
Jun 2023

That said, a close relative guaranteeing the individual hardly seems worth all the effort to conceal.

There has to be more to the story.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
14. Stupid
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:53 PM
Jun 2023

I hope they have a tent to live in after George pulls his next "magic trick" and disappears or something. Those houses will be gone.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
15. My Guess
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:54 PM
Jun 2023

My guess is you are correct. Why all the gymnastics to hide the fact your Dad put his house up? There has to be more.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
20. "unsecured"
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 01:20 PM
Jun 2023

"Unsecured" means unsecured.

If they pledged their house, then it would not be "unsecured".

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
23. Yeah, I know what unsecured means.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 01:55 PM
Jun 2023

This article doesn’t say unsecured - though other reports do.

zuul

(14,704 posts)
4. So why did Santos (if that's his real name) refuse to disclose this information? I don't get it.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:41 PM
Jun 2023

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
7. that would be pure speculation
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:44 PM
Jun 2023

but if you want to speculate, I'll play. I'm guessing this sick puppy enjoyed everyone thinking that he was backed by republican big money.

I know, sick.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
26. To keep us fighting a false battle; one that would reveal innocent intentions after a big buildup.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 02:44 PM
Jun 2023

The man is constantly engaged in bullshit.

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
5. well, that turned out to be a big nothingburger
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:41 PM
Jun 2023

I was thinking some republican donors would be the backers.

Brother Buzz

(39,900 posts)
10. My Magic 8 Ball thinks his father and aunt were just convenient proxies...
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:48 PM
Jun 2023

in another scheme ginned up by George

Tesha

(21,141 posts)
19. I am positive that you are right.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 01:10 PM
Jun 2023

Money promised was money promised by bigger pockets, and the family was just the front..

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
8. not sure about ny
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 12:46 PM
Jun 2023

it varies from state to state, but you only have to put down a percentage of the bail. I see all kinds of figures in my volunteer work: $7500 the other day.

But if the person flees, then they go after your $$. They will even take title to your house if they have to.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
22. Well, bail has to be paid in full, but a bail bondsman will typically
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 01:33 PM
Jun 2023

Charge a 10% fee for covering the full amount. The bondsman puts up the full amount. If you skip out, they hunt you down.

If you have the means, you post the full bail amount. If you don't, it will cost you 10% that you won't get back.

Just another way to screw the poor.

Unsecured Bond works differently. They only come after the money if the defendent doesn't show up.

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
25. ny got rid of bail bondsmen
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 02:40 PM
Jun 2023

and they are still screaming about it.

bit by bit they are chipping away at the new law.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
18. He probably found it embarrassing, at his age, to have to have family bailing him out.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 01:03 PM
Jun 2023

It it was a Miami crime family, he could have owned it with pride.

allegorical oracle

(6,480 posts)
24. How is it that guys like Santos always seem to have the folks to bail them out? My parents would've
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 02:01 PM
Jun 2023

let me stew in the clink to "contemplate the errors of my ways."

Phoenix61

(18,828 posts)
30. His parents created him by always bailing him out.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 03:23 PM
Jun 2023

The rest of us learned not to do stupid stuff because cleaning up our messes sucked.

Cha

(319,079 posts)
28. So how is that going to make
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 02:51 PM
Jun 2023

his "family lose their jobs"?

Isn't that what he said was the reason he wanted it sealed?


He just looks stupid after all the big secrecy.. this isn't going to help him with the charges.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
31. That could be why the judge allowed disclosure...
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 03:24 PM
Jun 2023

The judge would know who signed the bond agreement, and likely couldn't square that with his claims.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
33. George Santos' dad and aunt, a house painter and a mail carrier respectively, posted his $500,000 bo
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 04:26 PM
Jun 2023
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