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Bucky

(55,334 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 10:58 PM Jun 2023

Who's the one Republican candidate you *don't* want to get the nomination?

I'm pretty sure Trump will get the nomination... unless his legal troubles actually catch up to him. In that's case, it's anyone's game. Most of them are unelectable loonies (Ramaswamy, Larry Elder), or untested lightweights who've never had to run for a purple voter (Tim Scott, Doug Burgum), or antiTrump lepers (Christie, Will Hurd).

But if Trump is somehow out of contention by next summer, which candidate would you least like Biden to be running against? Who's the biggest threat to the Biden recovery (and climate change legislation, and fair taxation, and campaign finance reform, and progressive healthcare policy, etc)?

The one that I think would have the best chance at picking up enough swing states to be a threat is Asa Hutchinson. He can talk the crazy monkey language of Right Wing resentment politics, but he also has distanced himself from Trumpism without pissing off the loons the way Pence and DeSantis have. But that's based on just seeing him a few times on Foxy-type news interviews.

Who is your nightmare fuel on the right? '


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Who's the one Republican candidate you *don't* want to get the nomination? (Original Post) Bucky Jun 2023 OP
Probably DeSantis, I guess, though I'm not really afraid of any of them...nt Wounded Bear Jun 2023 #1
Desantis terrifies me. He seems legit genocidal. Takket Jun 2023 #2
Yes, I don't want to see Tiny D get the nomination. He is scary. chicoescuela Jun 2023 #5
I agree. He has the seething resentment thing going but is more cunning than TFG. hlthe2b Jun 2023 #22
A Christie - Cheney ticket would be strong Captain Zero Jun 2023 #3
I agree, but the Republicans are too crazy to nominate them Walleye Jun 2023 #7
I guess it's possible. I can't see Christie getting the nomination. Bucky Jun 2023 #11
They would probably do more damage than the lot of them. CentralMass Jun 2023 #16
DeSantis because losing the primary would hurt his feelings badly BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 2023 #4
I think DeSantis will fade. GP6971 Jun 2023 #6
Mike Pence. This a dangerous man of no intellect who thinks gawd wants him POTUS, and he ... marble falls Jun 2023 #8
That's my biggest question. trump is probably easiest to beat, but Silent Type Jun 2023 #9
DeSantis is socially dysfunctional, sure. But... Bucky Jun 2023 #12
All of em scare me if ya want to know the truth.. Deuxcents Jun 2023 #10
Trump, because he will run third party Johonny Jun 2023 #13
Nightmare fuel? Matthew McConaughey WarGamer Jun 2023 #14
... CentralMass Jun 2023 #18
Glen Youngkin DET Jun 2023 #15
People who say DeSantis isn't personable enough to get the nomination remind me of me Bucky Jun 2023 #19
Trump winning would stand a good chance of starting to carve apart the Union of the States. DeSantis Celerity Jun 2023 #17
all of em jcgoldie Jun 2023 #20
Abe Lincoln. usonian Jun 2023 #21
It's NOT the nominee...IT'S THE PARTY maxrandb Jun 2023 #23
That would be Trump. Chainfire Jun 2023 #24

Captain Zero

(8,896 posts)
3. A Christie - Cheney ticket would be strong
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:02 PM
Jun 2023

IMHO. Go ahead laugh.
Of course, Republicans are too fucking stupid to do it.

Walleye

(44,728 posts)
7. I agree, but the Republicans are too crazy to nominate them
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:15 PM
Jun 2023

That would be a good campaign

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
11. I guess it's possible. I can't see Christie getting the nomination.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:26 PM
Jun 2023

Given their bullheaded apocalypticism, I'm pretty sure Christie winning any primary would create an ABC movement. He couldn't hold the party together. If a RW 3rd party candidate forms, even if it gets only 5-10% of the vote in the South, the Democrats would have the edge in Georgia, North Carolina, Florida, and possibly even Texas.

GP6971

(37,984 posts)
6. I think DeSantis will fade.
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:14 PM
Jun 2023

It won't be Christie either. So it's up for grabs. Maybe Hutchinson.

marble falls

(71,884 posts)
8. Mike Pence. This a dangerous man of no intellect who thinks gawd wants him POTUS, and he ...
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:17 PM
Jun 2023

... superficially seems a rational calm man, a compromise candidate.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
9. That's my biggest question. trump is probably easiest to beat, but
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:23 PM
Jun 2023

the consequences of another 2016 are huge. DeSantis should be as easy to beat, but he could fool us. The others are still vile GOPers, but might appeal to a few more Independents.

Another couple of years of turmoil. Better get a refill on anxiety meds.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
12. DeSantis is socially dysfunctional, sure. But...
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:27 PM
Jun 2023

I don't think that would bother Republican voters.

Deuxcents

(26,797 posts)
10. All of em scare me if ya want to know the truth..
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:24 PM
Jun 2023

They’re all after SS and Medicare. Tax breaks for corporate and super wealthy. They want to destroy public education. They are against reproductive health care. They want their religious beliefs etched in laws. They have billionaires donating to them. Yep..they scare me

WarGamer

(18,590 posts)
14. Nightmare fuel? Matthew McConaughey
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:41 PM
Jun 2023

He's a soft Republican... from all indications... kinda libertarian-ish.

He'd vacuum up lots of support.

DET

(2,489 posts)
15. Glen Youngkin
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 11:46 PM
Jun 2023

The obvious answer is DeSantis, but he doesn’t have enough personality to entertain the deplorables, plus I think his neo Hitler vibe even scares some of them. Youngkin is a Trojan horse; he won the governorship of Virginia by appearing to be a normal middle of the road guy while taking advantage of the bogus right wing cause of the moment - CRT - and a local incendiary issue re sexual assault in school bathrooms. Once he got in, Youngkin veered hard right, while still trying to fly under the radar. Youngkin has not announced that he’s running (yet), but he’s made discreet overtures to the moneyed class, who appear to be very receptive. It’s either 2024 or 2028 - not sure which is worse.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
19. People who say DeSantis isn't personable enough to get the nomination remind me of me
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 12:38 AM
Jun 2023
Back in 2016 I remember saying, "Trump is too crooked and unprofessional and sinful (and too obviously a well documented charlatan) to get the right wing vote."

Then later I repeated that sentence, but changed it to "...to get the Republican nomination"

Then later I repeated that sentence, but changed it to "...to get the vote in enough swing states to win the Electoral College"

I've since learned that Republican voters don't care what candidates do or how they behave in real life.
Republican voters only care what candidates say, like a mantra. If candidates castigate the right people or give lip service to the right platitudes, regardless of whether they live those standards, or offer the right dog-whistles to the biggest haters, they'll get the votes from the right. They'll even double down on the hypocrisy and call them "values voters." As long as the candidate says what they want to hear, the Republican base will remain enthralled with the shiny object.

Celerity

(54,333 posts)
17. Trump winning would stand a good chance of starting to carve apart the Union of the States. DeSantis
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 12:15 AM
Jun 2023

would be the 2nd worst to win.

As for the hardest for Biden to beat, I would say a Youngkin/Kemp or Kemp/Youngkin ticket would be trouble.

Maybe for either, having Tim Scott or Tom Cotton or Marco Rubio as the VP might aid a ticket.

maxrandb

(17,416 posts)
23. It's NOT the nominee...IT'S THE PARTY
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 07:56 AM
Jun 2023

Seriously, this is like asking; "which nominee of the Nazi Party do you not want to get the nomination"?

The current Retrumplican Party is broken. It's run by fascists, racists, anti-democracy hatemongering trolls.

It's not the nominees that are the problem, it's the banner they are running under.

The only thing that will return the Retrumplican Party to sanity, is a defeat so crushing at the polls that 2 Democratic Senators win landslide elections in Alabama.

Short of that, it's like thinking your teens garage band will suddenly become bigger than the Beatles if they just find the right drummer.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
24. That would be Trump.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 10:27 AM
Jun 2023

I believe that if anyone else gets the nomination, the MAGA faithful will stay home and pout.

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