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milestogo

(23,060 posts)
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 08:56 AM Jun 2023

So the dead people who went down with the Titanic in 1912

never reached the bottom of the ocean.

Their bodies were crushed by the water.

Just realizing this now.

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So the dead people who went down with the Titanic in 1912 (Original Post) milestogo Jun 2023 OP
i think its different if you go down slowly than if you have explosive decompression Blues Heron Jun 2023 #1
Yes. Not to mention they are te organic particles inclusive of ocean life now hlthe2b Jun 2023 #2
They probably drowned before sinking to those depths. tinrobot Jun 2023 #3
north atlantic in the winter. Javaman Jun 2023 #6
They inthewind21 Jun 2023 #14
no... lapfog_1 Jun 2023 #4
Exactly, most of the human body is water which is not compressible localroger Jun 2023 #5
The water in the human body Groundhawg Jun 2023 #8
Water is not compressible at ocean depth pressures localroger Jun 2023 #9
Not correct. NutmegYankee Jun 2023 #7
One of the exploration trips found hundreds of pairs of shoes on GPV Jun 2023 #10
Shoes come off. milestogo Jun 2023 #11
Yes, but to find so many in pairs? Makes you wonder. GPV Jun 2023 #12
I don't think they were lying in neat rows. BlackSkimmer Jun 2023 #13

hlthe2b

(113,844 posts)
2. Yes. Not to mention they are te organic particles inclusive of ocean life now
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 09:15 AM
Jun 2023

Eaten by fish, absorbed by algae. Something very "cycle of life" in that aspect, I think.

tinrobot

(12,053 posts)
3. They probably drowned before sinking to those depths.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 09:16 AM
Jun 2023

It took almost 2 hours for that submersible to sink to the bottom.

Drowning takes a few minutes.

Javaman

(65,685 posts)
6. north atlantic in the winter.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 10:00 AM
Jun 2023

the cold water temp would have probably put them into shock before the drowned.

when stranded in the north atlantic in the winter without any sort of protection, you are lucky if you have 5 minutes before you freeze to death.

expected life expectancy is usually about 3 minutes.

I had an uncle torpedoed off of Newfoundland during WWII in the NA. he only survived because he was covered in oil from the oil slick.

lapfog_1

(31,893 posts)
4. no...
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 09:18 AM
Jun 2023

your body will be "squeezed" in all areas where water cannot reach. After you drown, water replaces air in your sinus, lungs, trachea, stomach, etc.

Anyplace that the water can reach and replace air will not be crushed as the body descends to the bottom. The water will equalize with the column of water that is applying the crush weight.

What happened to the submarine's humans was implosive compression as the hull of the pressure resistant chamber failed. In mere milliseconds the bodies were likely shredded by water, under so intense pressure of mile or so of the column of water on top the sub, it will cut steel.

The victims likely never had a chance to register the thought that they were going to die.

localroger

(3,782 posts)
5. Exactly, most of the human body is water which is not compressible
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 09:24 AM
Jun 2023

The problem with being in am implosion is the violence of the collapse. For a moment conditions inside what used to be the pressure vessel resemble those within the cylinder of a diesel engine. The sudden compression generates a ridiculous amount of sudden heat, then the implosive force rips everything apart. None of that happens to a body in a sinking ship, since the compression takes long minutes as the pressure builds gradually. The victims of the Titanic were consumed by marine organisms. The victims of the Titan were converted to random protoplasm in milliseconds.

Groundhawg

(1,218 posts)
8. The water in the human body
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 10:10 AM
Jun 2023

Isn't under the kind of pressure the water 2 miles deep is, so yes the water in our bodies are compressible at that depth.

localroger

(3,782 posts)
9. Water is not compressible at ocean depth pressures
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 10:51 AM
Jun 2023

All matter is compressible at much higher pressures such as those much deeper within the Earth or a properly designed explosive / implosive sphere, but at 6000 psi it only compresses 1 to 2 percent which is not practically noticeable.

NutmegYankee

(16,477 posts)
7. Not correct.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 10:04 AM
Jun 2023

A body can indeed sink to the bottom intact. Implosion, on the other hand, is a violent event that is similar to being next to a few pounds of TNT going off. The body is destroyed in the latter case.

GPV

(73,393 posts)
10. One of the exploration trips found hundreds of pairs of shoes on
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 11:11 AM
Jun 2023

the bottom, signifying the final resting place of those victims.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
13. I don't think they were lying in neat rows.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 11:50 AM
Jun 2023

They found shoes in many places, no doubt where the bodies lay at one time. There were a lot of bodies. Long since consumed by the deep.

One of the little known facts of the Titanic disaster is that bodies were seen floating (still wearing life jackets) by other ocean going vessels in the days following. Passenger ships were told to re-route because it was so awful. There were women in the water clutching babies; another with a large dog. Really horrendous.

The ships did re-route, while working boats picked up bodies for days.

But not before other passengers on other ships saw the floating bodies.

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