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nolabear

(43,850 posts)
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 03:47 PM Jun 2023

I'm fat. I take Wegovy. Ask me anything.

The fat shaming here is getting to me. Just in case anyone is curious about what my life is like, what I eat, what my history with weight loss is, what I know about others’ weight issues and attempts at loss are, or anything else, including what this drug is like, just ask. I promise honesty. I may decline to self-protect but I won’t deceive.

I do this because I hate the insults and assumptions I see here, and everywhere.

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I'm fat. I take Wegovy. Ask me anything. (Original Post) nolabear Jun 2023 OP
I'm a nurse... FarPoint Jun 2023 #1
It's Ozempic by another name. nolabear Jun 2023 #5
Mr WT just started taking Ozempic WhiteTara Jun 2023 #11
It dropped my glucose numbers about 15 points Miguelito Loveless Jun 2023 #19
how long have you been using it? WhiteTara Jun 2023 #24
Going into my third month now Miguelito Loveless Jun 2023 #27
wow! That's wonderful WhiteTara Jun 2023 #30
Next check up and blood test. I am hoping for it to be down Miguelito Loveless Jun 2023 #40
Ohhhh okay.... FarPoint Jun 2023 #56
My wife is a retired RN. Mr.Bill Jun 2023 #21
It is interesting. Not that all medical staff should know... Caliman73 Jun 2023 #45
Christie in the news again has spurred some of it recently Doc Sportello Jun 2023 #2
There's only one person I ever want to comment on Hekate Jun 2023 #9
Trump is so quick to dish it out on appearances, especially to women. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #13
It is absolutely incomprehensible to me. Chellee Jun 2023 #115
What are the side effects? Is it safe for senior citizens? Will my doc consider it if I'm doing well Hekate Jun 2023 #3
I'm 68 so yes. nolabear Jun 2023 #12
That's something I hadn't heard spinbaby Jun 2023 #25
One more question: do I have to take it forever? Hekate Jun 2023 #55
It appears to be necessary to continue taking this medicine LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #58
Thanks. Much to think about. I see my internist for my annual in July. Hekate Jun 2023 #85
It's so new there's debate but maybe. nolabear Jun 2023 #102
It's the reduced blood sugar less inflammation. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2023 #99
Thanks! I'll watch later. Looks fascinating. nolabear Jun 2023 #103
Why are you taking it? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2023 #4
Because I've got a couple of health issues it would help. nolabear Jun 2023 #16
A little humor for your day Ray Bruns Jun 2023 #6
how is this funny Recycle_Guru Jun 2023 #14
Not funny at all. LoisB Jun 2023 #69
Not sure how to respond. If they were yelling gay slurs would you post it? nolabear Jun 2023 #39
Glad to hear the ending had a point (whatever it was). ShazzieB Jun 2023 #65
I gritted through. It was pretty awful. nolabear Jun 2023 #66
decidedly unfunny. mopinko Jun 2023 #67
I take Ozempic and metformin. phylny Jun 2023 #7
Amen! nolabear Jun 2023 #17
My sons and husband Bettie Jun 2023 #52
Ozempic works by blocking hunger cues to the brain NickB79 Jun 2023 #86
Not for me. phylny Jun 2023 #108
Not at all true. nolabear Jun 2023 #110
it is a tough topic Recycle_Guru Jun 2023 #8
Interesting article. I have very few weight related health issues. nolabear Jun 2023 #32
Have you always been overweight? Mr.Bill Jun 2023 #10
Ever since puberty. nolabear Jun 2023 #20
Lipedema can be horrific ismnotwasm Jun 2023 #48
Yeah, it's miserable. I have to do so much just to function. nolabear Jun 2023 #51
It's worse ismnotwasm Jun 2023 #68
Oh damn. nolabear Jun 2023 #71
It's for lymphedema, not lipedema, apparently. nolabear Jun 2023 #73
We have used it for both, but you are right! ismnotwasm Jun 2023 #80
Ah. Funny I've never heard of it. nolabear Jun 2023 #84
Probably because, from what I understand ismnotwasm Jun 2023 #88
Hubs tried it and by the third month, he was having terrible pains when he took it. lark Jun 2023 #15
It can indeed cause stomach pain. I'm working on managing that. nolabear Jun 2023 #22
there are other drugs that he could try WhiteTara Jun 2023 #29
Do you know any that are safer? lark Jun 2023 #31
I understand that Mountjaro is a different drug. nolabear Jun 2023 #34
I'll tell hubs and he will consult with dr. lark Jun 2023 #36
I'd love to know what they say! nolabear Jun 2023 #42
My memory is pretty spotty, but if I remember I'll tell you. lark Jun 2023 #44
monjourno (sp?) is getting rave WhiteTara Jun 2023 #35
Thanks lark Jun 2023 #37
I've heard that too. What a strange and interesting field. nolabear Jun 2023 #43
Ain't that the truth. I was on the original program, endorsed by all the medical groups*, & it just Hekate Jun 2023 #111
I didn't know they had been sold - that is such a bummer and explains so much. lark Jun 2023 #113
Is he in a higher dose? Jirel Jun 2023 #79
He was on his 3rd rx and each one increased the dose. lark Jun 2023 #114
I am taking Trulicity for type II diabetes LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #83
Is it reimbursed by your health insurance? drray23 Jun 2023 #18
Thank heaven it is! nolabear Jun 2023 #26
Yes, the price goes way way up! lark Jun 2023 #33
My SIL has lost 80 lbs. with Wegovy. Croney Jun 2023 #23
That's a very important point. Each person is different. nolabear Jun 2023 #28
have you lost weight on it, too? LymphocyteLover Jun 2023 #54
The thing about alcohol in regard to weight loss is not so much that it has a lot of calories Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #57
Is it expensive or do you have good Rx coverage? airplaneman Jun 2023 #38
Very good coverage. I hope that improves for others. nolabear Jun 2023 #41
Will you have to take it always or just until you reach your goal weight? catrose Jun 2023 #46
I don't know. I suppose I'll find out. nolabear Jun 2023 #49
I have a script for ozempic, but was turned down by insurance.... getagrip_already Jun 2023 #47
I know. It's not fair. I hope it gets better. nolabear Jun 2023 #50
I just started Contrave siouxsiecreamcheese Jun 2023 #109
I've had several fat moments ecstatic Jun 2023 #53
I've done intermittent fasting. nolabear Jun 2023 #60
Good for you! CaptainTruth Jun 2023 #59
My wife took Wegovy. It made her so sick. Piratedog Jun 2023 #61
I'm so sorry! I know it affects some that way. nolabear Jun 2023 #62
Ask you anything? relayerbob Jun 2023 #63
LOL! 42. nolabear Jun 2023 #64
An African or European swallow? Chellee Jun 2023 #116
I have a friend who is pre diabetic and 50 pounds overweight. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2023 #70
I don't know. But it might given the pre-diabetes. nolabear Jun 2023 #74
Thank you. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2023 #77
Much respect to you. LoisB Jun 2023 #72
Thanks. Just trying to have a life, you know. nolabear Jun 2023 #76
Fist bump! Jirel Jun 2023 #75
Pretty good. Down about twelve pounds. nolabear Jun 2023 #78
Hey, go you! Jirel Jun 2023 #98
Exactly! nolabear Jun 2023 #101
I don't know why people fat shame. People are people, why care what size?? BeckyDem Jun 2023 #81
We do internalize it. It can wreak havoc on "reality." nolabear Jun 2023 #91
I'm fat and my numbers are great, my A1c is 2-something Warpy Jun 2023 #82
Thanks. I don't get personally shamed any more nolabear Jun 2023 #94
I'll sit by you! Bettie Jun 2023 #95
How long do you think you'll be able to stay on it? NickB79 Jun 2023 #87
Good question. It does change that pleasure. nolabear Jun 2023 #92
Hi nolabear choie Jun 2023 #89
Also, my sister has been on Ozempic choie Jun 2023 #90
They're not personal but Christie, 45, etc. are shamed by being called fat. nolabear Jun 2023 #93
Gotcha. You're absolutely right. choie Jun 2023 #96
Considering taking it Deep State Witch Jun 2023 #97
I just can't do keto. nolabear Jun 2023 #100
Woohoo! Footay Jun 2023 #104
Thank you. I agree. I'll take it as long as I can too. nolabear Jun 2023 #106
I saw the post about Christie...the author said she didn't mean it and I believe her...but some Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #105
I don't think she did. But it's so entrenched it's sad. nolabear Jun 2023 #107
I've had a big weight gain post hysterectomy and chemo. xmas74 Jun 2023 #112
And you have mine. Hysterectomy affected me too. nolabear Jun 2023 #119
Thank you!! Nt xmas74 Jun 2023 #120
What do you think will happen in Russia? nt Carlitos Brigante Jun 2023 #117
Beats the heck outta me. Sure is fascinating tho nolabear Jun 2023 #118
Hi Nolabear genxlib Jun 2024 #121
Hi. Well, it's complicated. nolabear Jun 2024 #122
Thanks for the update genxlib Jun 2024 #123

FarPoint

(14,765 posts)
1. I'm a nurse...
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 03:50 PM
Jun 2023

No shaming from this one... I am pure clinical with warm hands and heart...I have cared for many gastic bypass clients too. I am not familiar with this drug you mention...I will look it up.

WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
11. Mr WT just started taking Ozempic
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:00 PM
Jun 2023

for diabetes. It hasn't changed his numbers but he seems to get full faster.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,752 posts)
19. It dropped my glucose numbers about 15 points
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:10 PM
Jun 2023

And I am eating less and shed about two inches in my waist. I am waiting for my next checkup for an official "weigh in" to see how much weight I lost.

WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
24. how long have you been using it?
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:13 PM
Jun 2023

My sweetie will have his fourth injection and then next week he steps up his dose.

FarPoint

(14,765 posts)
56. Ohhhh okay....
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 05:28 PM
Jun 2023

I have been wanting to read up on this medication for weight loss.....keep us updated on side effects, good, not so good etc...this is a relatively new use for the drug.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
21. My wife is a retired RN.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:12 PM
Jun 2023

She and I used to volunteer at the hospital she retired from. The volunteers ran the gift shop, and all the profits from that went to things the hospital and patients needed. (Retail can be very profitable when there is no payroll, rent, taxes, etc.) Usually a department head would come to our meeting and request funds. One time the Family Medicine Clinic was asking for 15k to purchase a scale. It seems the scale they use in the clinic would only go up to 500 lbs. When someone weighed more than that they had to take them out to shipping and recieving and weigh them on a freight scale.

We were horrifed to hear that. Imagine being a patient and having to go through that. They wanted a scale that could handle heavier weights and be used in privacy right in the clinic. It took us about five minutes to approve the money for that purchase.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
45. It is interesting. Not that all medical staff should know...
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:34 PM
Jun 2023

but that is a very common response with the medical staff that I have spoken to.

There are currently 3 or 4 medications that were developed for treatment of diabetes, but which have shown significant promise with regards to weight loss. The big two are Mounjaro and Ozempic. The action of the medications is GLP-1 Agonist.

My own doctor, who I consider to be very good and up on a lot of research, also did not know about Mounjaro. My medical weight loss specialist was not surprised.

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
2. Christie in the news again has spurred some of it recently
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 03:51 PM
Jun 2023

It's not right but those of us who are older grew up with it being ok to make fun of overweight people. We need to change.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
9. There's only one person I ever want to comment on
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:00 PM
Jun 2023

I usually confine my comments to his abominable sartorial choices, the most horrifying being the Halloween costume he chose to wear to Buckingham Palace. That and his drippy orange make-up.

To the point: this country once had a very overweight president, and he dressed like a gentleman of his day in well-tailored 3-piece suits.



 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
13. Trump is so quick to dish it out on appearances, especially to women.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:02 PM
Jun 2023

The gall of that hideous POS.

Chellee

(2,300 posts)
115. It is absolutely incomprehensible to me.
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 09:10 AM
Jun 2023

Being heavy doesn't have to mean that you look bad in your clothes. You can dress well. TFG has enough money to have well tailored suits, and yet, he always looks like a pile of laundry. His get up at Buckingham Palace was mortifying. This!?! was our representative in Britain!?! OMG, please make it stop.

Anytime he opened his mouth in front of a foreigner, I was embarrassed. For contrast, I'm furious when he speaks to us. But he didn't even have to say anything that time. My God. The jacket was too small, the pants were too big, he just looked idiotic.

I will admit that it's harder to get well fitting clothes when you're poor. And harder still, when you're heavy, because fast fashion doesn't make clothes for bigger bodies. They just take the pattern for smaller sizes and expand it. Which is not how bodies work, and why the armscye is halfway down the upper arm making the whole shirt look schlumpy. Errgghh! I've digressed. Sorry.

Anyway, Trump's doesn't have as much money as he says he has, but he's got plenty of money for tailors. He doesn't need to dress like this, and why does he? It's inexplicable.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
3. What are the side effects? Is it safe for senior citizens? Will my doc consider it if I'm doing well
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 03:51 PM
Jun 2023

…on Metformin once a day?

You bet I have questions. Thank you.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
12. I'm 68 so yes.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:02 PM
Jun 2023

My husband takes Metformin and Ozempic (same drug) for diabetes so I think it’s okay.

Side effects vary from person to person. Mine are intermittent mild nausea, gas, and going back and forth between diarrhea and constipation. It seems to depend on what I eat so I’m learning to manage it. Magnesium citrate is my friend.

But the weirdest “side effect” is that I was in such pain when trying to do anything at all, a combination of arthritis and some weird, hard to diagnose generalized pain that I was using a cane and struggling to do things. Two days after I started it, it was GONE. My knees still are arthritic but the cane is gone, I can do things. I looked it up and sure enough it’s a strong anti-inflammatory. I want research!

spinbaby

(15,389 posts)
25. That's something I hadn't heard
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:14 PM
Jun 2023

I’d heard about the weight loss and stomach upset, but anti-inflammatory is new to me.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
58. It appears to be necessary to continue taking this medicine
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 05:40 PM
Jun 2023

There is evidently some evidence of weight gain after you stop taking this drug.

I am taking Trulicity whish is a 2014 version of Ozrmpic.. I was on victozia for a long time and my doctor moved me to the lowest dosage of Trulicity about five months ago. My A1C went from 6.3 to 5.3. My doctor upped the dosage of trulicity but cut my insulin dosages bu a great deal. I have lost twenty to thirty pounds

Trulicity is a weaker drug than ozrmpic with respect to A1C and weight loss. I am happy with trulicity I will see my doctor in august and he may further up the Trulicity dosage

There are reports of type II diabetics being able to cut out insulin and rely on the weekly shot I am taking far less long acting and short acting insulin. I would live to further cut back on the insulin.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
102. It's so new there's debate but maybe.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 08:37 PM
Jun 2023

There’s no withdrawal or negative effect from stopping but the benefits go away. Interestingly, it seems to be good for addiction as well. It inhibits somewhat that dopamine rush people get from using or thinking of using alcohol or drugs. It’s a very interesting bunch of drugs. I should probably buy stock. 😄

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
99. It's the reduced blood sugar less inflammation.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 08:28 PM
Jun 2023

When I cut out sugars the aches and pains go away.

I watched a discussion with some longevity gurus and serious researchers. The researcher was discussing how even obese diabetics taking metformin were having better outcomes than healthier skinnier non diabetic people.

See about 53 minutes (the whole discussion is worth it)

This is Brian Green’s World Science Festival program.


nolabear

(43,850 posts)
16. Because I've got a couple of health issues it would help.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:05 PM
Jun 2023

First, knees that need replacing. Arthritis. I also have lipedema, a condition where fat cells in the legs retain lymphatic fluid and swell to the point of pain and difficulty walking. Liposuction is the only recourse. So I’m darned well going to try to lose any non-lipedema weight I can before going through any of that.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
39. Not sure how to respond. If they were yelling gay slurs would you post it?
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:27 PM
Jun 2023

I know the end had a point but it is hard to listen to.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
65. Glad to hear the ending had a point (whatever it was).
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:00 PM
Jun 2023

I missed it because my shoulders were up around my neck so high by then that it was hard to hear.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
66. I gritted through. It was pretty awful.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:01 PM
Jun 2023

I don’t think the poster meant to be. But it was.

phylny

(8,818 posts)
7. I take Ozempic and metformin.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 03:58 PM
Jun 2023

I am being treated by a physician who specializes in obesity. Obesity is a disease. Let me say it for the people in the back. It’s not a lifestyle choice, it has nothing to do with self-control, it has nothing to do with calories in, calories out, exercise. Obesity is a disease.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
17. Amen!
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:07 PM
Jun 2023

It’s hard to explain how much of my life has been spent eating, not more, but less than most people. Being hungry. Arguing with myself over whether I have somehow—I don’t know—eaten in my sleep? 😄

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
52. My sons and husband
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 05:09 PM
Jun 2023

don't know how I even exist on what I eat in a day...yet, I am fat.

A lifetime of dieting got me to the size I am...diet, regain, diet, regain...once I stopped, I stabilized and have been in a 6-10 pound range for the last 13 years, a little higher in winter, lower in summer, same clothing size all year round.

I tire of people thinking that I don't understand nutrition or exercise or anything else because I am a fatty. Ah well, my husband and kids love me as I am.

NickB79

(20,356 posts)
86. Ozempic works by blocking hunger cues to the brain
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 07:43 PM
Jun 2023

And by reducing your hunger cues and reducing consumption, it causes weight loss.

So obesity very much is a calories in/calories out situation at it's most basic level. It's just that very few people have the kind of self control needed to resist all the heavily processed, intentionally addictive food temptations in modern society, and do so for a lifetime.

My wife is in the same boat. She'll likely end up on Ozempic within a year, because she's struggling with diabetes and her weight loss has stalled out.

phylny

(8,818 posts)
108. Not for me.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 11:30 PM
Jun 2023

Carbs are my enemy. 1500 carb-heavy calories vs. 1500 protein/fat calories are not equal for me.

It has nothing to do with self control. Obesity is a disease. It’s very, very complicated.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
110. Not at all true.
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 02:20 AM
Jun 2023

I have eaten 1200 calories a day for months at a time and lost little or nothing. My thin husband eats much, much more and is thin. Sadly he also has the supposedly weight related health issues I don’t have. Diabetes, heart disease (from a body produced cholesterol). He actually takes pretty good care of himself but he doesn’t diet. Metabolisms vary and change over time.

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
8. it is a tough topic
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 03:59 PM
Jun 2023

Fat shaming is not good for the person it is directed to. Medical professionals are trying to meet the patients where they are and formulating body positive but health related care options.

https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/health-and-wellness-articles/can-you-be-overweight-and-healthy

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
32. Interesting article. I have very few weight related health issues.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:21 PM
Jun 2023

The arthritic knees certainly aren’t helped, but no diabetes, no blood pressure issues, etc. I do have sleep apnea but use a CPAP.

But that playing with the grandchildren thing is real.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
10. Have you always been overweight?
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:00 PM
Jun 2023

I weigh about 30 lbs. more than I should, but I was really skinny until I was around 30. I can't believe how much I ate back then and still couldn't get above 120. The other guys used to call me pencilneck, which bothered me enough that I don't mind being a little heavy in my later years.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
20. Ever since puberty.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:11 PM
Jun 2023

Part of my “weight” is a condition called lipedema, which is progressive. It doesn’t respond to weight loss efforts. But some is ordinary overweight that’s very resistant to loss.

I did once lose a lot when in my late thirties early forties, working with Richard Simmons. I still had to work out an hour a day, have a very low calorie intake, and still couldn’t wear ordinary pants because lipedema in my legs made them very large.

ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
48. Lipedema can be horrific
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:43 PM
Jun 2023

I work on a very busy, diverse unit (Transplant, vascular and plastics) anyway, we used to have a couple of surgeons who would do something called the Charles procedure for severe lipedema. (Look it up—it’s very intense) I had one patient whose fat cells kinda acted like cancer cells in the way they divided. Another who came in for her procedures so many times- arms, thighs, legs, pannus. She was so freaking brave. Another with Lipedema in their legs, one was so bad he used a kind of sling to move the one legs so he could get out of chair. Nicest guy ever.

People have no idea how hard it is. You are brave too.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
51. Yeah, it's miserable. I have to do so much just to function.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:52 PM
Jun 2023

Compression, MLD massage, trying like hell to lose the other weight, vibration (except that kills the knees), food choices…it can eat your life.

Is the Charles procedure where they squeeze out clumps of fat cells? Nopenopenope…although desperate is desperate.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
71. Oh damn.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:22 PM
Jun 2023

No, nothing is curative. Just trying to stay ahead. Now I have to go look it up. With trepidation

ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
80. We have used it for both, but you are right!
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:35 PM
Jun 2023

The Lipedema is where your fat cells don’t behave properly — the one with the multiple surgeries was Lipedema, the guy using a sling on his leg was lymphedema.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
84. Ah. Funny I've never heard of it.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 07:15 PM
Jun 2023

I’m ridiculously tied in to the lipedema community, mostly because we’re all looking for a miracle.

ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
88. Probably because, from what I understand
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 07:49 PM
Jun 2023

It’s risky and many surgeons won’t do it. I’m not sure we still have a surgeon who does

lark

(26,081 posts)
15. Hubs tried it and by the third month, he was having terrible pains when he took it.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:03 PM
Jun 2023

The nausea at first was bad enough, but when this bad pain hit, we almost went to the ER. At that point he quit. Wish he could take it as he really needs to lose weight.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
22. It can indeed cause stomach pain. I'm working on managing that.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:12 PM
Jun 2023

It’s not too bad for me but it’s a thing. I’ve learned to only eat liquids on days it ramps up and that helps.

WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
29. there are other drugs that he could try
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:17 PM
Jun 2023

I hope he doesn't give up on improving his health.

lark

(26,081 posts)
31. Do you know any that are safer?
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:19 PM
Jun 2023

We used to use Weight Watchers, but they changed the program and it doesn't work now.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
34. I understand that Mountjaro is a different drug.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:22 PM
Jun 2023

I don’t know much about it but have heart it might work for those who can’t tolerate the semaglutides.

WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
35. monjourno (sp?) is getting rave
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:23 PM
Jun 2023

reviews from some people I know. It works somewhat differently than Ozempic.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
111. Ain't that the truth. I was on the original program, endorsed by all the medical groups*, & it just
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 02:54 AM
Jun 2023

…made sense to me because I understood the food group concept. I achieved my goal and stayed in good shape for quite a few years. Then WW was sold, and when I tried to go back, it was just one marketing idea after another.

* American Heart Assn, Diabetes Assn, etc.

lark

(26,081 posts)
113. I didn't know they had been sold - that is such a bummer and explains so much.
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 08:48 AM
Jun 2023

Thank you for this information.

Jirel

(2,369 posts)
79. Is he in a higher dose?
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:28 PM
Jun 2023

I’m taking the lowest dose, and it works wonderfully. When my doc tried to turrets up, I had horrible constipation and nausea. I wish you both the best.

lark

(26,081 posts)
114. He was on his 3rd rx and each one increased the dose.
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 08:59 AM
Jun 2023

Medicines tend to work wonky on him, for example, pain killers keep him awake while they knock me out. He's cut back on carbs in general, so hopefully this will pay off for him. I'm only about 10 lbs overweight but still down 20 lbs from 3 years ago. I decided to support hubs and reduce my overall carbs (especially sweets) to see if I could get this back off. I'm ok at this weight but can't gain anymore or my clothes won't fit. I figure losing the 10 lbs. would give me room to splurge occasionally and help support him too. Unfortunately, he needs to lose at least 20 lbs. He walks at least 5 miles a day, so is getting plenty of exercise. It's the food and alcohol.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
83. I am taking Trulicity for type II diabetes
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 07:07 PM
Jun 2023

Trulicity has been out since 2014 and it seems to have less severe responses compared to ozempic.
I have less appetite and have lost some weight. More importantly, my blood sugars are under better control and I have been able to cut back on insulin.

drray23

(8,759 posts)
18. Is it reimbursed by your health insurance?
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:09 PM
Jun 2023

If not, what is the monthly cost for it ? Are you finding it efficient ?
I am overweight by about 40lbs or so and have been considering it. I tried multiple times to lose weight but I regain it all after a while due to my hectic work schedule and inability to manage exercise and balanced diets. I understand that it's not a substitute for a balanced diet but I assume it helps achieve it.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
26. Thank heaven it is!
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:14 PM
Jun 2023

I feel bad for those whose insurance doesn’t cover it and I think that may change. I only pay a $25 copay and the manufacturer has a copay card that covers that, so so far I pay nothing! I hope that continues.

lark

(26,081 posts)
33. Yes, the price goes way way up!
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:21 PM
Jun 2023

His insurance doesn't cover it. If it was affordable, he might have tried one more time, but it was horribly expensive and produced horrible side effects so no.

Croney

(5,017 posts)
23. My SIL has lost 80 lbs. with Wegovy.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:13 PM
Jun 2023

She says she has 20 more to go. She gained a few pounds back but is on track again. I think her main challenge is that she enjoys good wine, and wine has calories.

Your Wegovy experience is yours and yours alone. Thank you for sharing whatever you want to share with us. I wish you great success!

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
28. That's a very important point. Each person is different.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:17 PM
Jun 2023

My brother in law just plain barfed when he ate. I don’t much like the waves of nausea but as I mentioned earlier it has an unexpected positive side effect of being incredibly anti-inflammatory and stopping chronic pain that was killing me. I hate the very idea of stopping.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
57. The thing about alcohol in regard to weight loss is not so much that it has a lot of calories
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 05:34 PM
Jun 2023

or sugar, but it's that your body perceives it as a toxic substance and expends all its efforts on ridding your system of it, to the point that it delays fat burning. By the time the alcohol is out of your system, it's likely you've eaten again, and the fat burning delays start to add up in the form of extra pounds.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
41. Very good coverage. I hope that improves for others.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:28 PM
Jun 2023

It can be brutal if you don’t. I am optimistic about the field blossoming though.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
47. I have a script for ozempic, but was turned down by insurance....
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:39 PM
Jun 2023

I'm in the Grey zone, not yet considered diabetic.

And at $1k/month, I'm not paying out of pocket.

Oh well......

109. I just started Contrave
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:13 AM
Jun 2023

My dr recommended Ozempic, Wegovy and some other injectable Rx's but Contrave is a pill I was approved for. I think it's the only weight loss drug that is usually approved when you're not diabetic. You just have to have a high enough BMI and high blood pressure or high cholesterol. I'm going into week 3 on it and I haven't seen much difference yet but I definitely don't have as many cravings as I used to. I think I paid $60 on my insurance place and without insurance, it's about $800.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
53. I've had several fat moments
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 05:22 PM
Jun 2023

From 2002 to 2009, I was on an awful yo-yo dieting spree. I'd gain weight, lose weight, gain it back, then would have to lose it back again. It was awful. I'm short so every pound shows. My issue was (and still is) grazing and eating when I'm not hungry, compulsively.

I finally got relief from the yo-yo dieting nightmare from 2 things: After I had my baby in 2011, I initially lost the weight but I kept eating and gained all the pregnancy weight back. I was almost 200 pounds! I went to Mexico later that year and got the gastric sleeve. I only lost 45 pounds before stalling out. lol. smh.

The following summer I started ADHD medication. Initially I took Adderall, and for the first time in my life, I was able to focus on tasks and stop eating just to eat. I lost another 30 pounds from that. When I started the ADD medication, I became a workaholic. I'd do marathon work sessions with little to no eating during first half of the day, but of course, when I wanted to splurge, I'd splurge. Over time, the unintentional "intermittent fasting" dramatically changed my metabolism to where I could eat any and everything I wanted to without gaining weight.

I mentioned both the surgery and the medication because either strategy alone would not have worked for me. I have 3 friends who got the gastric sleeve and they are fat again, after initially losing some weight. I'm on vyvanse now, which keeps me focused during the day, but at night, it's my smaller stomach that prevents me from doing too much damage. Rinse repeat.

I assume wegovy has a lot less risk involved compared to stimulants like vyvanse, so I'm really happy that it's available for people who need it. My sister swears by mounjaro (sp?) but it's super pricey and she says she gains weight when not on it. I highly recommend intermittent fasting for permanent metabolism changes, but I understand how difficult it might be without appetite suppression.

Good luck to everyone!

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
60. I've done intermittent fasting.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 05:47 PM
Jun 2023

LOL—I’ve done everything. I took phentermine for a while so I appreciate the ADHD drugs’ efficacy. But it stopped working after a while, as they predicted it would. I was an intermittent faster for several months, of the 16/8 variety. Wasn’t that hard but didn’t do anything.

My sister has a nightmare gastric bypass story that I won’t go into but it nearly killed her. She has lost weight though she says she wouldn’t do it again.

Piratedog

(266 posts)
61. My wife took Wegovy. It made her so sick.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 05:48 PM
Jun 2023

It wasn’t worth it to her. She was as sick as she has ever been.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,316 posts)
70. I have a friend who is pre diabetic and 50 pounds overweight.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:16 PM
Jun 2023

Does Medicare part D cover this?

Jirel

(2,369 posts)
75. Fist bump!
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:25 PM
Jun 2023

Me too. I’m down 25 lbs. Congratulations, and I hope it’s going great for you too!

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
81. I don't know why people fat shame. People are people, why care what size??
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:45 PM
Jun 2023

I'm sorry to hear you have had to listen to any of it, even if it is not directed at you specifically it still should not happen.




Best wishes for your good health.


nolabear

(43,850 posts)
91. We do internalize it. It can wreak havoc on "reality."
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 07:52 PM
Jun 2023

Crazy but true. It’s hard not to feel as though you’ve done all the things you’re accused of even when you haven’t.

Also, even if someone does all those things, fat does not equal failure. Or ugly. Or dumb. Or anything.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
82. I'm fat and my numbers are great, my A1c is 2-something
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:46 PM
Jun 2023

and my doc said "whatever you're doing, keep doing it." So I don't take Wegovy and my standard reply to fat shaming is "fuck off and die." If my numbers get bad, I'll probably do something about it, meaning consommé and salads dressed with a little garlic salt. I'm in my late 70s, so I don't know how bad those numbers are gonna get before I finally peg out.

So if you're still fat, come sit by me. I'll get rid of the scolds. I lived in New England, I know how it's done.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
94. Thanks. I don't get personally shamed any more
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 08:02 PM
Jun 2023

But it’s hard to see the overwhelming negativity around it.

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
95. I'll sit by you!
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 08:05 PM
Jun 2023

I'm fat...fact is, I look like my grandpa's sisters, who were also round women.

NickB79

(20,356 posts)
87. How long do you think you'll be able to stay on it?
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 07:48 PM
Jun 2023

Because I was just reading this article a few days ago by one of the creators of Ozempic, who feels it's at best a short term medication, and most people quit it after 2-3 yr.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/ozempic-drug-science-boring-weight-loss-b2359385.html

In an interview with Wired, professor Jens Juul Holst – who received the Warren Alpert Foundation Prize in 2021 for his work developing treatments based on the GLP-1 hormone – spoke about the effects of Ozempic, and why he believes many people will stop taking the medication after just a few years.

“What happens is that you lose your appetite and also the pleasure of eating, and so I think there’s a price to be paid when you do that,” Holst told Wired. “If you like food, then that pleasure is gone. The craving for food for some people is taken away when they take GLP-1 drugs.”

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
92. Good question. It does change that pleasure.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 07:56 PM
Jun 2023

I do like things more than others but mostly I’m sort of “Nah, I’m good” when I think of eating. I am careful to get enough protein and take a multivitamin. And drink enough water. I do find a funny hole where food was, mostly social. But I read varying things about staying on it. I guess we’ll find out.

choie

(6,906 posts)
89. Hi nolabear
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 07:50 PM
Jun 2023

I'm very very sensitive to fat shaming as I'm overweight myself. I haven't witnessed any shaming here, but I'm so sorry that you've seen those posts. I give you a lot of credit for taking wegovy and wish you all the best with it!

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
93. They're not personal but Christie, 45, etc. are shamed by being called fat.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 07:58 PM
Jun 2023

Or Lardass or many other things. It works its way in.

Deep State Witch

(12,717 posts)
97. Considering taking it
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 08:14 PM
Jun 2023

I'm considering taking Wegovy for a 3 month trial. I hit a plateau in my keto journey last year. Then, I got COVID and started gaining weight back. I've gained 30 pounds in a year. (I was 285 around Memorial Day last year, and am now between 315 and 320.) I need something to kick-start my weight loss. The problem with doing keto again is that I'm already doing most of it, and my body is used to low carb.

My questions are:
1. What are the digestive issues associated with it? When I was on Metformin and Byetta, I would have a lot of diarrhea. I've gotten to the point where I no longer need diabetic medication. I still have those issues sometimes, but mostly when I eat nuts or something with gluten.

2. Does your insurance cover it? How much do you pay for it? One of my concerns is that I have a fairly low A1C (5.5) and normal blood pressure. I don't know if insurance will cover it under those circumstances.

Thanks for sharing your journey!

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
100. I just can't do keto.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 08:34 PM
Jun 2023

For one, no gallbladder and it makes my GI tract go crazy.

But I know it has worked for many. I am not prediabetic so I take Wegovy, specifically for weight loss, though it’s exactly the same as Ozempic. And yes, it gives me some digestive issues. Either constipation or diarrhea most of the time. I’ve learned to take magnesium citrate for constipation and if diarrhea is a problem I take standard over the counter meds. Both work. I get mild nausea sometimes but I manage it okay. Some people get quite ill. You just have to ramp up slowly and see.

My insurance does cover it, thank goodness. The manufacturer also has a copay card. At this moment I pay nothing! If the copay goes away it’s only $25 a month. I’m very lucky. But I’d recommend talking to your doctor and seeing if they’ll advocate for you. I’ve done everything short of gastric surgery and after seeing others’ experiences (my sister nearly died and had four corrective surgeries afterward) I wouldn’t do it on a bet.

Hope you find a way to cover it. The full price is obscene. It is getting scarce now and I’m walking a tightrope but hope I don’t have to interrupt and start over.

Footay

(88 posts)
104. Woohoo!
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 08:49 PM
Jun 2023

Mounjaro taker here. I've been on it since last August and am approaching 90 lbs lost. It is a miracle drug as far as I am concerned and I plan to take it for life.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
106. Thank you. I agree. I'll take it as long as I can too.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 09:32 PM
Jun 2023

Fantastic loss! I’m encouraged!

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
105. I saw the post about Christie...the author said she didn't mean it and I believe her...but some
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 09:18 PM
Jun 2023

posters just kept on going

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
107. I don't think she did. But it's so entrenched it's sad.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 09:35 PM
Jun 2023

Between that and ageism I’m fast becoming untouchable.

I honestly don’t spend a lot of time suffering but it is interesting how things get latched on to as targets.

xmas74

(30,058 posts)
112. I've had a big weight gain post hysterectomy and chemo.
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 03:09 AM
Jun 2023

I'm tired all the time and have regular, consistent leg swelling along with neuropathy.
I know I should exercise but I'm just too tired. My oncologist said its not uncommon but thinks it might be more than just recovering from cancer and treatment. I've noticed looks from all the weight gain and have heard the comments.

You do whatever is best for you. You have my support no matter what you do.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
119. And you have mine. Hysterectomy affected me too.
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 02:56 PM
Jun 2023

We have to make terrible choices these days don’t we, with some treatments making other things worse. Wish there was a drug that made people mind their own damn business.

genxlib

(6,136 posts)
121. Hi Nolabear
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:38 AM
Jun 2024

I had this discussion bookmarked and found my way back to it.

Just wondering if you have an update after a year. The topic has only gained in interest and would love to hear where you are on your journey a year later.

I am sure lots more people are considering it now so your thoughts would be invaluable

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
122. Hi. Well, it's complicated.
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 01:52 PM
Jun 2024

Good Lord, was it a year ago? The answer is, suddenly I couldn’t get it. For months. FINALLY I was able to get it again three months ago. I’ve lost twelve pounds in those three months and am due to increase the dosage at the end of the month. I did.25 and am now on .5 and the pharmacy has to go back to my doc for some reason to get re-approval for 1 mg. It’s a mixed bag. My GI system is a little nuts. Vague nausea sometimes and it takes forever for things to empty so I can get very uncomfortable if I eat too much or too late or fatty things. Diarrhea sometimes and I’m careful when I take it to try to deal with that. I’m sticking with it but I’d love it if it would speed up a bit.

genxlib

(6,136 posts)
123. Thanks for the update
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 07:37 AM
Jun 2024

I am fascinated by the promise of these drugs; both personally and society wide.

The cost is crazy right now but I hope there will be a point where the curve turns to cost less. I am assuming they are cranking up capacity to meet demand and will come to the conclusion that they are better off selling lots more even at lower prices. At some point, the insurance companies will press for a price point that will improve their bottom line by the overall improved health.

Best of luck to you.

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