The situation with what appears to be a possible coup against Putin by Prigozhin and the Wagner

[Martin68]

Group is complicated and difficult to assess. I've never been much of a conspiracy buff, but it has occurred to me that it would be a brilliant move by Putin to draw Ukrainian troops into a premature and hasty attack on Russian lines that could prove catastrophic if Russian forces were ready for it. So my first contribution to the Global Conspiracy Sphere: What if Putin and Prigozhin conspired to create the appearance of a fake falling out and coup attempt, complete with a few explosions and other contrived events to lend realism to the ploy? All for the purpose of leading Ukrainian troops into a deadly rap? It would also serve to reveal which members of Putin's circle are loyal and which are not.

[NutmegYankee]

1. Satellite and drones would give an overview of Orc movements

I think they're going to judge it correctly.

[Martin68]

4. Not much to see at this point. There is reportedly a Wagner column traveling towards Moscow,

but Moscow is a long way off. We'll know more as events unfold.

[NutmegYankee]

10. I suspect the view is on movements in the occupied zone.

It's hard to stage a Kursk style trap in the 21st century.

[speak easy]

2. Prigozhin is no actor.

[Carlitos Brigante]

3. This wouldn't be believable as a movie script. Let alone real life. nt

[Martin68]

5. The same could be said for many actual events in history. Who would have predicted Prigozhin

could take over Rostov-on-Don unopposed by the Russian military?

[Carlitos Brigante]

8. It could. But this is just silly. How many people are in on it? What percentage of the

troops, whether army, or mercenaries know what's going on? How would anyone be able to control what different units do or don't do if they don't know that this is all a fake out?

[Martin68]

18. Troops obey orders. They seldom know what their objective is, particularly in the Russian army.

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But, hey, I put this wild speculation up for discussion. I know it's a long shot and rather unlikely. But strange things have happened, like a mercenary group taking over major Russian military assets in Rostov-on-Don unopposed by the Russian military

[Carlitos Brigante]

23. What I find unlikely, almost no shot at this point, is to see any "brilliance" from Mr.

Putin. This guy had everything he could've ever wanted. And what does he do? Fuck himself along with his country. I never expected this "coup" to get very far. But it does show him as weak. When just one of his stooges can wreak havoc almost overnight. At some point his other stooges will start to turn on him.

I guess what I'm trying to say is this would be way more complicated than Rico Flair pretending to turn on the 4 Horsemen to try to trick Lex Luger and Sting.

[GreenWave]

6. My faithful Russian sources say it is game on!

[Martin68]

7. If so, the outcome will depend on how Russian forces react. They could let Wagner enter Moscow

unopposed as happened in Rostov-on-Don, or they could fight an all-out battle.

[GreenWave]

9. Very little resistance.

It seems like Putin is a marked man.

[Emrys]

11. Nah n/t

[lame54]

12. It would be Putin's FIRST brilliant move in this incompetent war

[thebigidea]

13. Step away from the bong. Or do more. Either one.

[Martin68]

22. Actually it was 300 mcgs of primo Clear Light.

[Bev54]

14. And sometimes things are just as they seem, a military coup.

[Martin68]

19. Obviously that's the most likely scenario.

[harumph]

15. This is not Putin's plan.

[haele]

16. Which Oligarchs are backing him? Prigozhin is rich, but not enough to rule.

There's more gangster money behind him, propping him up, or they're letting him take care of a "pesky situation" and turn him into the next Strong Stooge in charge, because unlike Putin, I doubt Prigozhin knows where all the old Soviet bodies are hidden.

Putin's power was in his ability to blackmail as well as being a thug. Prigozhin is pretty much just a lucky thug that made it big time.

Haele

[JCMach1]

17. He's a mercenary for hire. Question is WHO hired him?

Maybe Elon Musk wants to take over Russia like he did Twitter? But seriously

Literally could be any one, or group of oligarchs

[Martin68]

21. He's not for hire anymore. He's way beyond that. He wants power.

[JCMach1]

24. Think Putin just paid him off through Lukoshenko

[Martin68]

25. Guaranteed safety? I doubt that promise will last. Next thing you know Prigozhin will

fall lout of an 8-story window. Happens all the time, you knowe?

[Martin68]

20. So why is Prigozhin committing suicide? Betting that the Russian military will defect to his side

because they realize the Ukrainian adventure was a colossal waste of life?