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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGood news from Bakhmut?
Link to tweet
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Call me crazy but I think this is the beginning of the end of the war.
Johnny2X2X
(19,416 posts)This is the beginning of the end.
And Russia will have little choice but to pull troops out to try to defend or retake Moscow in the next several days.
Scrivener7
(51,127 posts)posts about it's ending.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)He has to pull out troops too.
Just my opinion.
PortTack
(32,870 posts)Ukraine.
gab13by13
(21,653 posts)I click on his posts and ignore most others, especially one.
True Dough
(17,457 posts)but let's face it, there's really not much left of Bakhmut at all. Practically reduced to rubble.
GregariousGroundhog
(7,531 posts)If Bakhmut is lightly defended because of Wagner's exit, Ukraine may decide to push through it in an attempt to get behind Russian defensive lines. If Ukraine could succeed in that, Russia would be in serious jeapardy of getting rolled up just like what happened in Kharkiv Oblast last year.
Volaris
(10,295 posts)This week/this month/this summer, will be coup de gras, and Russia will have no choice but to admit defeat, regardless of who's running the govt in moscow.
calimary
(81,733 posts)to worry about whatever they thought theyd accomplished in Ukraine.
Theyve got MUCH bigger problems now.
Volaris
(10,295 posts)Tetrachloride
(7,963 posts)Renew Deal
(81,936 posts)Or possibly a couple of milestones in WW3
BootinUp
(47,266 posts)getagrip_already
(15,163 posts)Rostov-on-Don is a major supply hub, possibly the supply hub, to russian operations in Ukraine.
If supplies are no longer flowing, russian forces in Ukraine are effectively cut off. Rostov-on-Don supplies not only luhansk and donets, but also Crimea and therefore kherson.
Woops. Too bad. So sad. Anyway....
2naSalit
(87,220 posts)It may also be the end of russia as a country, which would be best, but also...
It appears that Belorussians are seeing a major opportunity ahead.
Link to tweet
Will be an interesting next few weeks or months.
Bev54
(10,139 posts)with the Wagner take over of the military operations in Rostov and march to Moscow.
lpbk2713
(42,792 posts)He's in a world of shit.
Richard D
(8,852 posts)Says that there have been a lot of bombings there.
Vogon_Glory
(9,144 posts)While the Wagner mutiny reminds me a lot of the 1917 Russian military collapse, Im not going to say that the currents of history have changed until the Ukrainians retake the territories they lost last year and start marching on the ones they lost earlier.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,065 posts)Then this:
Actually, I'm hoping this is the beginning of the end of Putin...and it just may be.
calimary
(81,733 posts)And how bloodthirsty and/or power-hungry are they?
A potential ally or a bigger headache?
WinstonSmith4740
(3,065 posts)The head of Wagner is no bargain, and nobody in Putin's circle could possibly be any better. My personal fantasy/wish is Putin fleeing (which may be happening...from what I just read here his plane is in the air), and his political prisoners being released. I think Alexei Navalny would be welcomed on the world stage. And, of course, watching Trump's head explode would be a bonus.
calimary
(81,733 posts)Epic!
Mysterian
(4,618 posts)is the Ukraine war would be over in a matter of weeks.