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orleans

(36,896 posts)
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 12:18 PM Jun 2023

"Jim Jordan 'bout to go through some things. 🤨"




The Supreme Court left in place a decision that allows more than 230 men to sue Ohio State University over decades-old sexual abuse by a university doctor, the late Richard Strauss.




WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday left in place a decision that allows more than 230 men to sue Ohio State University over decades-old sexual abuse by a university doctor, the late Richard Strauss.

Two cases involving the abuse were on a list of many cases the court said it would not hear. And, as is typical, the court did not comment in saying it would not hear the cases.

Ohio State University had urged the court to review a ruling by the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that revived lawsuits that had been dismissed. The men who sued are among hundreds of former student-athletes and other alumni who say they were abused by Strauss, who worked at the school from 1978 to 1998.

They say university officials failed to stop him despite complaints raised as early as the late 1970s. Many of them allege Strauss abused them during required physicals and other medical exams at campus athletic facilities, a student health center, his home and an off-campus clinic.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-ohio-state-abuse-richard-strauss-57b547932ffeaa015c6f85a994276e32

more at link



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"Jim Jordan 'bout to go through some things. 🤨" (Original Post) orleans Jun 2023 OP
Please make it happen. LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #1
paedo enabler Celerity Jun 2023 #2
Yikes! 2naSalit Jun 2023 #8
That's exactly what I was thinking! Bluethroughu Jun 2023 #16
Sadly Askov_Finlyson Jun 2023 #18
Double damn! thatcrowwoman Jun 2023 #42
No, that is Jim Jordan in his red Ohio State Uniform. True Blue American Jun 2023 #44
What? It's Jordan back from his U of Wisconsin wrestling days. He never wrestled at Ohio State Celerity Jun 2023 #53
The "W" on his chest and the sign behind him whopis01 Jun 2023 #68
And he has a W on his wrestling uniform. n/t aggiesal Jun 2023 #49
UW.... An absolute drunken wasted landscape of university edisdead Jun 2023 #65
I beg your pardon. My True Blue American Jun 2023 #69
I beg your pardon. My True Blue American Jun 2023 #70
Baloney they didn't. UW Madison has a rep. edisdead Jun 2023 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author Askov_Finlyson Jun 2023 #15
He was a Badger??? AllyCat Jun 2023 #19
I guess that explains the cheese for brains. Captain Zero Jun 2023 #26
Hey, I resemble that remark! AllyCat Jun 2023 #34
Guaranteed: he still sees himself that way. calimary Jun 2023 #50
I hope Jordan's got a lawyer. One of 45's. marble falls Jun 2023 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Jun 2023 #4
Gym's trying to look away harder now... Blue Owl Jun 2023 #5
He'll be... 2naSalit Jun 2023 #9
K&R UTUSN Jun 2023 #6
Off to the greatest page rightnow malaise Jun 2023 #7
K; R CatWoman Jun 2023 #10
Gym channels Sgt. Schultz Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2023 #11
Love the smell of MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #12
he keeps tweeting about hunterhunterhunter in an attempt to distract but it is not working: orleans Jun 2023 #13
Yep republianmushroom Jun 2023 #14
Lock him up Traildogbob Jun 2023 #17
Hit the showers, Gymmy-boy! lastlib Jun 2023 #29
Please remind me... What does this have to do with Jim Jordan? n/t thesquanderer Jun 2023 #20
Jim Jordan and the Ohio State sexual abuse controversy, explained usonian Jun 2023 #23
He was blueknight73 Jun 2023 #24
They filed charges against Jordan! True Blue American Jun 2023 #45
don't think that's quite correct stopdiggin Jun 2023 #61
Facts. True Blue American Jun 2023 #62
nothing in there about 'charges filed' stopdiggin Jun 2023 #63
He was a coach and helped cover it up. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #27
Gym protected, did not report even after many told him of this abuse. efhmc Jun 2023 #30
KnR Hekate Jun 2023 #21
Nowhere in this link is Jim Jordan's name listed, or any other "university officials." We ancianita Jun 2023 #22
just this... ? orleans Jun 2023 #25
Fine. ancianita Jun 2023 #31
Oh, he WILL be testifiying. louis-t Jun 2023 #33
I get that. So when we see the court docs with his name listed, we'll know he WILL be testifying. ancianita Jun 2023 #35
If he is not required to testify louis-t Jun 2023 #36
Or they can't get proof that he helped in the coverup and so they can't name him. ancianita Jun 2023 #46
Jordan, a witness for the defense?? or Plaintiffs ?? Gymn's in an uncomfortable "position". nt TeamProg Jun 2023 #28
If Gym was the assistant coach, what did/does the coach say... TreasonousBastard Jun 2023 #32
Gym Jordan is a groomer Sugarcoated Jun 2023 #37
With him, nothing would surprise me. calimary Jun 2023 #40
Will Gym Jordan investigate the Supreme Court now? LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #38
great question orleans Jun 2023 #39
I'd guess anything to keep the heat off himself. calimary Jun 2023 #41
That jacketless fuck... PCIntern Jun 2023 #43
I've been waiting for several years now for the documentary Upthevibe Jun 2023 #47
"Hey Gym Jordan.. " Cha Jun 2023 #48
He should go through some things, but I'll believe it when I see it. themaguffin Jun 2023 #51
Post removed Post removed Jun 2023 #52
I hope it takes him down big time kimbutgar Jun 2023 #54
So Much The Better, The More He Lies, Potentially The More He Incriminates Himself MayReasonRule Jun 2023 #64
Thank you kimbutgar Jun 2023 #72
Ohio State has a seven billion dollar endowment. They will pay. twodogsbarking Jun 2023 #55
Well Said!!! MayReasonRule Jun 2023 #67
I keep thinking about Rep Steve King. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2023 #56
Even though Jordan hasn't been named as being part of this yet... ShazzieB Jun 2023 #57
Lol. housecat Jun 2023 #58
Hey, Hey, Gymmie J. Zambero Jun 2023 #59
Don't get excited....NOTHING is going to happen deelee Jun 2023 #60
I'm Merely Observing The Process From Afar - The Opera Has Not Yet Ended! Chin Up Y'all! MayReasonRule Jun 2023 #66

thatcrowwoman

(1,230 posts)
42. Double damn!
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 02:36 PM
Jun 2023

My mom was a nurse at the hospital in Madison, my dad was a PT student who worked as an orderly at the hospital. I’m pretty sure he was the real Bucky Badger. I was badger born but didn’t go to university there. We were living in the Great Smoky/Blue Ridge mountains by then.

Jim Jordan brings dishonor on UW. I mistook him for a Buckeye, and he sure dishonors them, too.
🕊thatcrowwoman

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
44. No, that is Jim Jordan in his red Ohio State Uniform.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 02:45 PM
Jun 2023

He has changed little, except he does a combover now!

Celerity

(54,333 posts)
53. What? It's Jordan back from his U of Wisconsin wrestling days. He never wrestled at Ohio State
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 04:01 PM
Jun 2023

Last edited Mon Jun 26, 2023, 04:52 PM - Edit history (1)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jordan_(American_politician)

Jordan was born and raised in Champaign County, Ohio, the son of Shirley and John Jordan.He attended and wrestled for Graham High School, graduating in 1982. He won state championships all four years he was in high school and compiled a 156–1 win–loss record. He then enrolled at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, where he became a two-time NCAA Division I wrestling champion. Jordan won the 1985 and 1986 NCAA championship matches in the 134-pound (61 kg) weight class. He graduated with a bachelor's degree in economics in 1986.

Jordan earned a master's degree in education from Ohio State University and a Juris Doctor from the Capital University Law School. In a 2018 interview, Jordan said he never took the bar examination.

Jordan was an assistant wrestling coach with Ohio State University's wrestling program from 1987 to 1995.

Richard Strauss was wrestling team physician during Jordan's tenure. In April 2018 Ohio State University began an independent investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct by Strauss. Strauss died by suicide in 2005. Several involved persons have stated that Jordan surely knew of Strauss's criminal misconduct but did not report it. No wrestlers have accused Jordan himself of sexual misconduct, and he was never arrested or indicted for his alleged failure to report, but four former wrestlers named him as a defendant in a lawsuit against the university. Jordan has denied any wrongdoing, has refused to cooperate with investigations into Strauss, and has described his accusers as "pawns in a political plot."

whopis01

(3,919 posts)
68. The "W" on his chest and the sign behind him
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 12:23 PM
Jun 2023

sure make it look a lot more like The University of Wisconsin than Ohio State.

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
65. UW.... An absolute drunken wasted landscape of university
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 11:41 AM
Jun 2023

Don’t get me started on that school and the drunken crap that I had to experience there.

Stepping over passed out drunks in our front lawn. Someone took a shit INSIDE my father in laws car… and thats just the lighter side of things.

I HATE that school.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
69. I beg your pardon. My
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 02:01 PM
Jun 2023

DIL and 2 sisters graduated from there and all 3 have had successful careers. They never saw any of that. Are actually proud of their University!

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
70. I beg your pardon. My
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 02:02 PM
Jun 2023

DIL and 2 sisters graduated from there and all 3 have had successful careers. They never saw any of that. Are actually proud of their University!

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
71. Baloney they didn't. UW Madison has a rep.
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 03:29 PM
Jun 2023

Look the school itself is great.

But it has consistently been ranked at the top of the list of party schools forever for a reason. The stuff that goes on there is absolutely horrendous.

Response to Celerity (Reply #2)

calimary

(89,950 posts)
50. Guaranteed: he still sees himself that way.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 03:19 PM
Jun 2023

Maybe that helps explain why he never suits up all the way. No jacket. Always in shirtsleeves. Maybe he thinks that brings him back, closer to what he was wearing in this long-ago photo.

Response to orleans (Original post)

2naSalit

(102,648 posts)
9. He'll be...
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 12:32 PM
Jun 2023

Yelling louder with complete gibberish (as opposed to barely tethered rants we're used to) at the Hearings from now on.

orleans

(36,896 posts)
13. he keeps tweeting about hunterhunterhunter in an attempt to distract but it is not working:
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 12:35 PM
Jun 2023

"are you scared yet?"




Traildogbob

(13,010 posts)
17. Lock him up
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 12:46 PM
Jun 2023

And make him the person in charge of the J6 Choir shower rehearsals for the next number one hit on Spotify. They need someone with integrity to oversee inmate safety.

usonian

(25,132 posts)
23. Jim Jordan and the Ohio State sexual abuse controversy, explained
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 01:23 PM
Jun 2023
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/7/17542878/jim-jordan-richard-strauss-ohio

More than 100 former Ohio State students say they were sexually assaulted by a former university athletic doctor. Jim Jordan maintains he knew nothing.

More than 100 former Ohio State students say they were sexually assaulted by a former university athletic doctor, the university announced Friday about an ongoing investigation.

The scandal gained national attention earlier this month, after more than five former wrestlers claimed Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) ignored the sexual abuse of athletes and students by a former team doctor during his tenure as the assistant coach of Ohio State’s wrestling team from 1986 to 1994. Jordan, who spoke with investigators this week, has continued to deny knowing anything about the abuse.


Turning your back on crime has its downside.

blueknight73

(337 posts)
24. He was
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 01:24 PM
Jun 2023

I believe an assistant coach on the wrestling team when this was going on. A bunch of wrestlers said that he knew it was going on and looked the other way

stopdiggin

(15,420 posts)
61. don't think that's quite correct
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 10:59 AM
Jun 2023

Last edited Tue Jun 27, 2023, 11:54 AM - Edit history (1)

I believe he was named (as co-defendent?) in a suit brought against OSU and physician. (the one reviewed and revived here) Don't believe there were legal charges leveled.

stopdiggin

(15,420 posts)
63. nothing in there about 'charges filed'
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 11:38 AM
Jun 2023

Jordan has been accused (in the past) of 'knowing and not reporting.' And that is a serious allegation (and an absolute moral/ethical failure). However, that does not support your assertion that (legal) charges have been laid against him as an individual.

(and that was all that was implied in my post)
----- -----

Edit: here is the most complete (unsourced) account from the link provided


GOP Rep Jim Jordan sued for failing to prevent sexual abuse at Ohio State
Jul 18, 2018

Embattled Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) has been named as a defendant in a class action lawsuit filed by former Ohio State athletes who say they were sexually abused by the school's sports doctor, Richard Strauss. over a twenty-year period.

Jordan was assistant wrestling coach at OSU for eight of those years, overlapping with Strauss' tenure for all of that time. Eleven of Jordan's former wrestlers say that they can't imagine how Jordan didn't know about the serial sexual abuse of his wrestlers, who spoke about it openly; and two of Jordan's former students claim they told Jordan about the abuse, and he did nothing. Jordan continues to claim he was unaware.

and then from Rolling Stone: -
On Tuesday, Jordan’s public-relations crisis became a legal nightmare. Attorneys filed a massive class-action lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Ohio on behalf of an as-yet-unnamed former OSU wrestler. The law firm Sauder Schelkopf is seeking to represent all the students and athletes “treated” by Strauss in his two decades at the school, from the late ‘70s to the late ‘90s – a number they estimate will amount to “at least 1,500.”

Jordan, the jut-jawed anti-gay crusader who’s the fourth-ranking Republican leader in the House, is singled out in the suit: He’s one of only three former school officials named, including Strauss, though the action is aimed at all the coaches, administrators and others in positions of responsibility at OSU who, it claims, stood by while students and student-athletes were repeatedly “sexually abused, harassed, and molested,” and “forced” to seek treatment from a well-known predator even after they complained.

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
22. Nowhere in this link is Jim Jordan's name listed, or any other "university officials." We
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 01:23 PM
Jun 2023

don't really know that Jordan is named in court documents; the tweeter says he is but gives no court document to confirm it.

This link names Jordan, but it doesn't provide a link to court documents that name him.

https://www.wthr.com/article/sports/list-grows-ohio-state-officials-said-know-ex-doctors-abuse/531-e0eac587-2892-436c-a89a-af5fed3edd4f

OFFICIAL: Jim Jordan, ex-assistant wrestling coach from 1987 to 1995 and now a Republican U.S. congressman running for House speaker

Allegation: Several ex-wrestlers say he knew about Strauss' abuse when he was an assistant coach at Ohio State, as well as the lewd behavior in Larkins Hall.

Response: Jordan has repeatedly denied knowing of any abuse and said he would have reported it if he'd heard of it. "Conversations in a locker room are a lot different than people coming up and talking about abuse," Jordan told Fox News on July 6.


I've looked for the court documents that name university officials but can't find them, only reports on the suit, like the one linked here.

orleans

(36,896 posts)
25. just this... ?
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 01:27 PM
Jun 2023




In a statement, lawyers for the plaintiffs said they were pleased the Supreme Court decided not to hear the cases. “We look forward to returning to the trial court, having our clients’ stories heard, and gathering further evidence of OSU’s widespread cover-up of Dr. Strauss’s serial predation,” they said.



(bold is mine; last paragraph from link in op)

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
31. Fine.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 01:40 PM
Jun 2023

They'll be gathering further evidence of the coverup, and maybe later we'll find out whether he's named with those who they subpoena and depose.

I'd love to have his name confirmed, but it's just too soon to know, nevermind celebrate as if he's really part of the suit. Everyone loves to hope it's true, but that doesn't make the tweet true. It doesn't even mean that we can know he's feeling any pressure over this case. Just sayin'.

louis-t

(24,614 posts)
33. Oh, he WILL be testifiying.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 01:55 PM
Jun 2023

He is part of the cover up. The athletes were complaining to him and he never reported the complaints.

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
35. I get that. So when we see the court docs with his name listed, we'll know he WILL be testifying.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 02:07 PM
Jun 2023

Cheering for tweets just makes us look not very fact based.

louis-t

(24,614 posts)
36. If he is not required to testify
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 02:11 PM
Jun 2023

the attorneys representing the players are pretty weak.

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
46. Or they can't get proof that he helped in the coverup and so they can't name him.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 03:03 PM
Jun 2023

Or they do have proof and he cut a deal to provide further evidence of the others who covered up the abuse, and so they let him off the hook to nail others. It happens. Maybe they've voted for him and provided him with a legal way out.

 

TeamProg

(6,630 posts)
28. Jordan, a witness for the defense?? or Plaintiffs ?? Gymn's in an uncomfortable "position". nt
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 01:30 PM
Jun 2023

calimary

(89,950 posts)
40. With him, nothing would surprise me.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 02:28 PM
Jun 2023

If anything, Jordan will probably try to use this to stir shit up for somebody else somewhere else. “Look OVER THERE, people!”

calimary

(89,950 posts)
41. I'd guess anything to keep the heat off himself.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 02:28 PM
Jun 2023

His motives are (and always should be) suspect.

PCIntern

(28,348 posts)
43. That jacketless fuck...
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 02:44 PM
Jun 2023

Pricks like him are, and were, in every athletic department ever created. I played three varsity sports for five of the six years I was in school and these were the guys who made your life miserable. They would walk around after their showers snapping towels at people’s bare asses and make fun of their dick sizes, like they had anything to brag about, and torturing people even on the team. Real human beings who were good athletes were appreciative of everybody’s contribution to the team.
And homophobic they were universally, but would be naked and horsing around with their buddies long after everyone else was dressed. Wotta bunch of slimy pricks.

Upthevibe

(10,172 posts)
47. I've been waiting for several years now for the documentary
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 03:07 PM
Jun 2023

that George Clooney is supposed to be creating about this Ohio State sex scandal.

I'm not holding my breath that anything's going to happen to Jordan.....

Response to orleans (Original post)

kimbutgar

(27,235 posts)
54. I hope it takes him down big time
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 05:31 PM
Jun 2023

But unfortunately he has no shame so he’ll probably shrug off the investigation as a political witch hunt. And go on right wing media and proclaim himself as a victim!

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
64. So Much The Better, The More He Lies, Potentially The More He Incriminates Himself
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 11:40 AM
Jun 2023

Not that prosecutors ever use social media postings or television interviews against someone in court...

As an aside, I adore the image from Brazil you chose on your account!
What a prescient film!

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,411 posts)
56. I keep thinking about Rep Steve King.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 05:59 PM
Jun 2023

I thought he'd been booted earlier than he was. He was defeated in the 2020 primary. But he was out there as a white supremacist, even though he denied being so.

Apparently being primaried by an old fashioned Republican may be the only way to clean The House.

ShazzieB

(22,560 posts)
57. Even though Jordan hasn't been named as being part of this yet...
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 06:17 PM
Jun 2023

I feel like celebrating the fact that this can now be adjudicated in a court of law and the victims will at least have a shot at getting some justice.

I imagine it'll be a while before we find out what this is going to mean for Rep. I'm Too Sexy for My Jacket, but hopefully it will mean something that involves having to admit his role in the cover up. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

deelee

(41 posts)
60. Don't get excited....NOTHING is going to happen
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 10:07 AM
Jun 2023

Not to be the Debbie Downer here, but at some point we have to acknowledge that none of this matters. Gaetz, Santos, Trump et al.....all clearly, documented corrupt felons...yet the Republican base just doesn't care....so guess what? It just goes on


MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
66. I'm Merely Observing The Process From Afar - The Opera Has Not Yet Ended! Chin Up Y'all!
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 11:53 AM
Jun 2023

I'm honestly amazed in our current time line when anything other than Y'all Qaeda's Nat-C Fascist is further advanced!

Things will always be as they are and rarely as one might have it to be.

In this case, I did not expect Nat-C SCOTUS to allow this to go forward.
I'm really pleased that the opportunity now exists.

This is progress. Nothing is "fixed".
This is merely an opportunity for these individuals to seek judicial redress.

I can't say that if I had been abused as they, that I would not have sought extrajudicial remedies.
Having further standing before the law has long been needed.

This is that!!

Here's to you have a great day deelee!!

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