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brush

(61,033 posts)
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 07:08 PM Jun 2023

A guest on Ari Melber on MSNBC says that Putin actually won v Prigozhyn in the...

armed convoy towards Moscow incident.

I don't know about that. Putin seems weak in that his forces did nothing to turn the convoy around. Prigozhyn turned around after cutting a deal with Belarus.

Imagine an armed militia convoy driving up I-95 getting 120 miles from Wash. DC and the Biden admin not reacting and doing nothing to put it down.

We could all still the echoes of uproar of "how weak' coming from the republicans and media today, two days later.

I dunno, the guest's statement doesn't ring true to me.

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A guest on Ari Melber on MSNBC says that Putin actually won v Prigozhyn in the... (Original Post) brush Jun 2023 OP
I would say a loss for Putin. LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #1
Prig is building lg camps in Belarus for his mercs headed there, many still in Syria and Africa too Shanti Shanti Shanti Jun 2023 #2
Putin won TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #3
I would ask the guest what the measurement of victory is in this instance Torchlight Jun 2023 #4
Love your last sentence brush Jun 2023 #6
It's like poker. Beastly Boy Jun 2023 #5
A deal with Belarus is a deal on Putin's side Lulu KC Jun 2023 #7

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
1. I would say a loss for Putin.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 07:14 PM
Jun 2023

I caught a segment late that looked like Moscow was tearing up the roads going into Moscow. To keep Wagner Group from reaching it.

Those with the edge don't respond that way.

 

Shanti Shanti Shanti

(12,047 posts)
2. Prig is building lg camps in Belarus for his mercs headed there, many still in Syria and Africa too
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 07:19 PM
Jun 2023

Putin prob handed him billions to take out Kiev and Zelensky as part of his deal, sledgehammer time

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
4. I would ask the guest what the measurement of victory is in this instance
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 07:25 PM
Jun 2023

An incredibly swift projection of force towards Moscow illustrated a lot of things from a supposed ally, a dramatic lack of interior readiness, an inability to respond in a timely manner being only a few.

I have nothing to support, but I believe Putin has exposed his own particular critical weaknesses and his domestic opponents may be looking at this as an opportunity (politically, direct action, worse... I've no guess there).

I think Putin will do his best to put lipstick on this pig PR-wise, but the relevant players may already be smelling bacon.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
5. It's like poker.
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 07:28 PM
Jun 2023

Putin may have won against Prigozhin in the armed convoy round, but they both lost eventually. And the game ain't over yet.

Lulu KC

(8,893 posts)
7. A deal with Belarus is a deal on Putin's side
Mon Jun 26, 2023, 09:14 PM
Jun 2023

Two against one. Prighozin did not win this round, but it ain't over--if he's alive. Somewhere.

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