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VoxMoore v. Harper was the gravest threat to free and fair elections in the United States to arrive at the Court in decades. And, while Tuesdays 6-3 decision leaves the door slightly ajar should a future Court wish to overturn a close election, it rejects more sweeping theories that could have rendered many American elections meaningless.
It is also the Courts second decision defending the foundations of US democracy this month a reassuring and slightly surprising turn after some of its decisions regarding voting rights and elections in the last few years.
Moore involved the awkwardly named independent state legislature doctrine (ISLD), a theory that the Supreme Court rejected many times over the course of more than a century. Yet this theory also started to gain steam as former President Donald Trump filled three seats on the Court with staunch conservatives.
The ISLD takes two lines from the Constitution concerning election administration and misleadingly argues that they mean a states legislative branch of government has effectively unchecked authority to decide how congressional and presidential elections will be conducted in their state.
Under the strongest version of the ISLD, any state constitutional provisions that protect the right to vote, that limit gerrymandering, or that otherwise constrain lawmakers ability to skew elections would cease to function. State governors would lose their ability to veto laws impacting federal elections. And state courts would lose their authority to strike down these laws.
No justice signed on to this extreme version of this quizzical legal theory even Justice Clarence Thomass dissenting opinion conceded, for example, that a state governor may veto an election bill. But two justices Thomas and Neil Gorsuch did sign on to a slightly weaker version of the ISLD which would render state constitutional provisions that protect voting rights, or that safeguard against gerrymandering, unenforceable.
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intrepidity
(8,590 posts)That should be at the end of the headline.
roamer65
(37,965 posts)rurallib
(64,727 posts)the other 3 were all in favor of it.
elleng
(141,926 posts)Gotta read decision, but I'm feeling somewhat optimistic about this Court, at the moment at least.
no_hypocrisy
(55,072 posts)two more Supreme Court justices . . . . .
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)a swell of the clutching fear of a hopefully improbable but all too possible outcome. I didn't wake up in the middle of the night worrying about what might happen. An argument for withdrawing altogether except for putting alerts on the calendar for sending for ballots.
However, Vox's headline is misleading. We now know the RW-extremist supermajority does not intend to destroy the liberal western democracy we inherited in this way using this case. The three dissenters are 3 open, blatant warnings of huge danger.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)party can go to hell
wendyb-NC
(4,702 posts)For now anyway.
There seems to be no end to how the other side or the elephants in the room, can finagle legislation on Elections and
Voting. They make up new rules to prevent problems that don't exist, make changes in polling places, early voting hours, and
requiring a particular, sanctioned, kind of voter ID to be presented at the time of in person voting. Not to mention very strategic
gerrymandering.
2naSalit
(103,257 posts)malaise
(296,834 posts)Rec
In It to Win It
(12,667 posts)Executive power is a mixed bag so far. Biden won the immigration case but the Alito hates clean water. We should probably send all the polluted water to his house. The. Court decided to not change standing doctrine this time around, so lets hope that applies to the student loan case as well.
The Court slapped down the Alabama map and let the district courts decision stand (striking down the maps) on the Louisiana maps case.
Criminal Justice is forever in the shitter with this court.
malaise
(296,834 posts)Lots of things have been going our way and there are many more to come. The Slobfather has been indicted twice and declared liable for sexual abuse.
Eastman is about be be disbarred. Rudy et al are up shitcreek in Georgia.
The fun has just begun.
That said Id love one more indictment/exposure instead of fireworks this weekend. 🥹🥹🥹🤓
In It to Win It
(12,667 posts)I don't disagree with any of that. I'd love another indictment day, especially for Georgia.
malaise
(296,834 posts)Effed up some years ago. Theyve been horrific otherwise youre right