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Celerity

(54,407 posts)
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 04:37 PM Jun 2023

Spare A Tear For Oppressed Billionaire Conservatives

"Karen" and "Cis" are now racist, misogynist slurs!

https://thebanter.substack.com/p/spare-a-tear-for-oppressed-billionaire

https://archive.fo/2eitP



There is precious little ideological consistency on the American right. Yesterday they loved law enforcement. Today they want to defund the FBI. Last week they were terrified of Czars and anything with the faintest hint of Russia. This week, they can’t stop praising Vladimir Putin and his nation of kleptocrats. This is what happens when your core organizing principle is “owning the libs.” The ground beneath your feet is sand that can shift at a moment’s notice. You believe in nothing. You stand for nothing.

But there is at least one fixed point in what passes for right-wing ideology: They are the eternal victims of oppression and persecution. This is their North Star. Even as they spend every waking moment hurting the people they hate, they obsess over the idea that they live in a country where white cisgender men and women are a powerless, oppressed minority. These are the same people who still control the bulk of the wealth, dictate the majority of the culture, and wield political power like a battering ram against vulnerable children. But, sure, they are the victims of relentless persecution.

One of the more recent, and definitely one of the more curious, subplots of the ongoing melodrama that is “My Oppressed Life” is the attempt to create new slurs in order to appropriate oppression. It hasn’t been going well, leading to much mockery of the painfully privileged people sobbing about their laughably performative anguish, but it has been highly instructive. Short of physically nailing themselves to a wooden cross, this is about as transparent (no pun intended) as it gets for self-martyrdom.

I want to speak to the manager!

Last month, Fox News talking head Will Cain was trying his darndest to fill in the pointed hood-shaped hole left in the propaganda channel’s primetime lineup by the truly unfortunate departure of Tucker Carlson. Cain blurted out that “Karen” is, and I swear he really said this, a “racial slur for white women.” Cue the white victimization and sad, sad music. I feel bad for women actually named Karen, I really do. It’s a little (a lot) unfair to them. But for “Karens?” The obnoxious middle-aged white women who abuse their privilege? They’re not the victims of anything but their own arrogance. If that arrogance drops a nuke into their life and disrupts their sheltered little world? They have no one to blame but themselves.

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Spare A Tear For Oppressed Billionaire Conservatives (Original Post) Celerity Jun 2023 OP
Never liked the term Karen... That being said... LakeArenal Jun 2023 #1
Maybe she's the "easiest to find and video" whathehell Jun 2023 #6
You've Got To Stand For Something (Or You'll Fall For Anything) czarjak Jun 2023 #2
It's ironic, in a sense, because women of all races, whathehell Jun 2023 #3
The 'Karens' who make the news often go far beyond 'speak to the manager'. Many of them weaponised Celerity Jun 2023 #4
What "news"?..The internet? whathehell Jun 2023 #7
You need to look harder it would appear. Celerity Jun 2023 #8
No, I don't think so whathehell Jun 2023 #9
How the 'Karen Meme' Confronts the Violent History of White Womanhood Celerity Jun 2023 #13
The Mythology of Karen.. whathehell Jun 2023 #16
White women are violent? treestar Jun 2023 #17
Thank You! whathehell Jun 2023 #19
Non sequitur. White systemic racism is often violent. Buying into and using that system often causes Celerity Jun 2023 #20
"How the 'Karen Meme' Confronts the Violent History of White Womanhood" treestar Jun 2023 #21
I shouldn't have to argue on DU for the the stark reality of systemic racism & its interlocks with Celerity Jun 2023 #22
It's too bad that 'Karen' became the common usage name. Should have been Ivanka. keithbvadu2 Jun 2023 #5
My thought exactly... The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2023 #11
It is a bit ageist too treestar Jun 2023 #18
Here's three or four ... marble falls Jun 2023 #10
Calling Kennah Jun 2023 #12
The Karen people canetoad Jun 2023 #14
They're also known as Kayin, Kariang, Kawthoolese, and all of the names (including Karen) are just Celerity Jun 2023 #15

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
1. Never liked the term Karen... That being said...
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 04:51 PM
Jun 2023

If the urban definition of Karen fits, you’re a Karen. I have seen white men called Karen.
I have seen a couple minority women called Karen.

Just because a screaming white woman happens to be the easiest to find and video doesn’t mean it’s a stereotype.

whathehell

(30,468 posts)
6. Maybe she's the "easiest to find and video"
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 05:24 PM
Jun 2023

because she's IS a she and therefore less likely to
respond with a punch or a bullet..Women make "easier targets".

czarjak

(13,639 posts)
2. You've Got To Stand For Something (Or You'll Fall For Anything)
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 05:00 PM
Jun 2023

Actually, Aaron Tippin was way ahead of the curve when it comes to advising Trumpbillies

whathehell

(30,468 posts)
3. It's ironic, in a sense, because women of all races,
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 05:14 PM
Jun 2023

those middle aged and older, especially, are likely the least violent demographic in the country...Maybe demanding to "speak to the manager" isn't our biggest behavioral issue right now...just a thought.


Celerity

(54,407 posts)
4. The 'Karens' who make the news often go far beyond 'speak to the manager'. Many of them weaponised
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 05:20 PM
Jun 2023

race and thus put us PoC in danger, sometimes potentially lethal danger.

whathehell

(30,468 posts)
7. What "news"?..The internet?
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 05:29 PM
Jun 2023

I don't know if I've ever seen a "karen" story on cable or broadcast news..I DO, on the other hand, see a lot more serious misbehavior -- racist AND non- racist, from the Young and Male demographic.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
8. You need to look harder it would appear.
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 05:58 PM
Jun 2023
CBS News - Christian Cooper on being racially targeted while birdwatching in Central Park



ABC News - Amy Cooper charged in Central Park false report against Black bird watcher

The Manhattan DA charged the woman with falsely reporting an incident.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/amy-cooper-charged-central-park-false-report-christian/story?id=71635157


NBC News -White Woman Attempts To Block Black Man From Entering His Apartment Building



'SoHo Karen' Snaps at Gayle King in Contentious CBS Interview

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/soho-karen-snaps-gayle-king-195223661.html

whathehell

(30,468 posts)
9. No, I don't think so
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 06:41 PM
Jun 2023

Two of the three false accusers were THEMSELVES arrested, while another was fired from her job. As for the third, I'm sorry, but I don't see how "snapping" at a reporter is even newsworthy, let alone "weaponized".

These particular women acted badly and were penalized for it. That's the end of the story, in my opinion, and hardly justifying of a race based gender stereotype.




Celerity

(54,407 posts)
13. How the 'Karen Meme' Confronts the Violent History of White Womanhood
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 08:22 PM
Jun 2023


https://time.com/5857023/karen-meme-history-meaning/



When you look up the hashtag #Karen on Instagram, a search that yields over 773,000 posts, the featured image on the page is a screenshot of a white woman staring intensely into the camera, pursing her lips into a smile as she touches a finger to her chin, a movement that’s at once condescending and cloying. The woman’s name is Lisa Alexander, but on the Internet, she’s most recognized as the “San Francisco Karen,” after a clip went viral of her last week, in which she demands to know if James Juanillo, who was stenciling “Black Lives Matter” in chalk on the front of his own home, was defacing private property. The video showed Juanillo, who identified himself in a social media caption as a person of color, telling Alexander and her partner that they should call the police if they felt he was breaking the law. He later told ABC7 News that the couple called the police, who he says recognized him as the resident instantly. While Juanillo was fortunate to have been recognized and unharmed, calls like this could result in injury or worse, death.

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The archetype of the Karen has risen to outstanding levels of notoriety in recent weeks, thanks to a flood of footage that’s become increasingly more violent and disturbing. There’s the Karen who was recorded spewing multiple racist tirades against Asian Americans in a park in Torrance, Calif., upon which the Internet discovered that she had a history of discriminatory outbursts, earning her the title of “Ultra Karen.” There’s the Karen in Los Angeles who used two hammers to damage her neighbors’ car as she told them to “get the f–ck out of this neighborhood.” There’s the Karen who purposely coughed on someone who called her out for not wearing a mask while at a coffee shop in New York City.



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How the Karen meme relates to the violent history of white women

The historical narrative of white women’s victimhood goes back to myths that were constructed during the era of American slavery. Black slaves were posited as sexual threats to the white women, the wives of slave owners; in reality, slave masters were the ones raping their slaves. This ideology, however, perpetuated the idea that white women, who represented the good and the moral in American society, needed to be protected by white men at all costs, thus justifying racial violence towards Black men or anyone that posed a threat to their power. This narrative that was the overarching theme of Birth of a Nation, the 1915 film that was the first movie to be shown at the White House, and is often cited as the inspiration for the rebirth of the KKK.

“If we’re thinking about this in a historical context where white women are given the power over Black men, that their word will be valued over a Black man, that makes it particularly dangerous and that’s the problem,” says Dr. Apryl Williams, an assistant professor in communications and media at the University of Michigan and a Fellow at the Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society at Harvard who focuses on race, gender and community in digital spaces. “White women are positioned as the virtue of society because they hold that position as the mother, as the keepers of virtuosity, all these ideologies that we associate with white motherhood and white women in particular, their certain role in society gives them power and when you couple that with this racist history, where white women are afraid of black men and black men are hypersexualized and seen as dangerous, then that’s really a volatile combination.”

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related



The ‘Karen’ memes and jokes aren’t sexist or racist. Let a Karen explain

.https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/28/karen-memes-jokes-arent-sexist-or-racist-let-karen-explain/

https://archive.fo/sSNJ9





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The most recent Karen fires came from across the Atlantic, fanned by white British women claiming that “Karen” is — wait for it — an oppressive slur. “Does anyone else think the ‘Karen’ slur is woman-hating and based on class prejudice?” tweeted Julie Bindel, a British feminist writer, whose credentials in oppression include being known for espousing anti-trans rhetoric. Nonetheless, the conversation around Bindel’s tweet included white women who did feel Karen memes were offensive. Hadley Freeman wrote in the Guardian that the Karen memes were sexist. Another viral tweet went so far as to call “Karen” the equivalent of the n-word. As a millennial black Karen, and a child of immigrants, I find the brouhaha hilarious and twisted. “Karen” is not and will never be an oppressive slur. Anyone who disagrees can take it up with my manag … — I mean, with history.

In her piece for the Guardian, Freeman’s basis for labeling the Karen meme sexist was that white men are using the word to make fun of white women. But Freeman seems to believe "Karen” originated with white men, when these notions about the name and white privilege have been circulating in the black community for a long time. As a kid in South Dallas in the ’90s, I remember one time when I introduced myself to other black kids at the mall. One of them raised an eyebrow and looked puzzled when I told him my name. “You don’t look like a Karen,” he said. “That’s a white lady’s name.” Karen was a popular name for baby girls in the 1950s and 1960s. Thus, many Karens are, in fact, of the boomer generation. My mother, who grew up in Nigeria, named me Karen precisely because she wanted me to blend into white American society and face fewer problems in life than I would have with a foreign or a “black-sounding” name. Being a Karen has probably given me some advantages.

Freeman goes on to lament that there are “memes about Chad and Zach,” but those “have never had the popularity of ones about Becky, Susan or Tammy, let alone Karen.” It’s not as though men’s names haven’t been used to depict problematic behavior. There’s “Uncle Tom,” used to describe a black man who is seen to be excessively subservient to white people. A more recent example is “Stan,” which in recent years has come to mean a person who is an admirer of a public figure. But the origins come from Eminem’s song “Stan,” in which a male fan named Stan is so utterly obsessed with Eminem that he kills himself and his pregnant girlfriend. There isn’t a specific name that is used for problematic young white male behavior; the dismissive “OK, bro” is what we’ve got for now. Freeman largely ignores race in her piece, save for one throwaway line: “People of color should describe their experiences of racism in whatever language works for them.”

Well, many of us decided that Karen, or, say, Becky, works for us. Black American expression, including hip-hop, rap and remix culture, drives global social media culture and shapes language. Take Becky, for example: It was rapper Sir Mix-a-Lot’s 1992 song “Baby Got Back,” in which a white girl, disgusted by the shape of a black woman’s body, talks behind the black woman’s back to her friend Becky. Over the years, and partially thanks to Beyoncé, “Becky” was popularized in the black community to refer to a white girl, especially one with backstabbing tendencies. But this is not an exclusively American phenomenon. Cultures from around the world use common names to describe archetypal behaviors. Is “Karen” gendered? Yes, it’s a girl’s name. But sexist? Nah. In America, white women are often believed and protected at all costs, even at the expense of black lives. In 1955, it was a white woman who falsely accused 14-year-old Emmett Till of whistling at her in Mississippi, which led to him being brutally beaten and killed. Fast-forward to recent years and we still learn about black people being arrested or assaulted because a white woman called the police unnecessarily. Becky and Karen memes and jokes should be understood in this context, part of a long tradition to use humor to try to cope with the realities of white privilege and anti-blackness.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. White women are violent?
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 11:35 AM
Jun 2023

WTF?

The point is that the issues these women created are not gang killings, drug smugglings, murders. Can't make snobbery equivalent to all that.

This is bad messaging. Overdoing the racism thing (there is nothing that can't be overdone) does no good for any purpose. How many votes do we lose because of it?

And these women generally get fired, which is a pretty severe punishment for snobbishness. Oh wait, racism is much worse? Tell that to a woman of any race who has been assaulted by anyone of any race.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
20. Non sequitur. White systemic racism is often violent. Buying into and using that system often causes
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 01:34 PM
Jun 2023

violence. That was fully ecplained in the article. You are mistating the premiss.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. "How the 'Karen Meme' Confronts the Violent History of White Womanhood"
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 04:05 PM
Jun 2023

Is the title.

Then an anecdote about a white woman who questioned a person of color writing in chalk on a sidewalk, which ended in.

"While Juanillo was fortunate to have been recognized and unharmed, calls like this could result in injury or worse, death."


It could. Anything could end in injury or death, perpetrated by anyone. This anecdote does not even result in any violence from the white woman, so it's the worst possible way to introduce an article that claims to be confronting their violent history.




Celerity

(54,407 posts)
22. I shouldn't have to argue on DU for the the stark reality of systemic racism & its interlocks with
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 04:24 PM
Jun 2023

violence against people of colour, violence many times instigated by racist white women (even if not actually physically perpetrated by them) feeding off of that system, but here I am.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. It is a bit ageist too
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 11:36 AM
Jun 2023

the name was very popular in the era in which younger boomers were born.

There were 4 in my second grade class!

Wasn't a problem name until we came to middle age.

canetoad

(20,769 posts)
14. The Karen people
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 08:26 PM
Jun 2023

Are a trans-Himalayan ethnic group. They make up the third largest group in Myanmar and are persecuted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_people

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
15. They're also known as Kayin, Kariang, Kawthoolese, and all of the names (including Karen) are just
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 08:47 PM
Jun 2023

anglicised transliterations of Sino-Tibetan/Myanmar language names, such as ကရင်ပြည်နယ်, ကီၢ်သူလ့, ကရင်, etc etc.

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