Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
18 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The 'No Dinner Parties' explanation for recent US Supreme Court decisions: (Original Post) Tomconroy Jun 2023 OP
Yeah yeah Johnny2X2X Jun 2023 #1
Yes but Barret, Kavanaugh, and Roberts Elessar Zappa Jun 2023 #6
They're going to throw out affirmative action this week Johnny2X2X Jun 2023 #7
We agree. Elessar Zappa Jun 2023 #9
Not *as* crazy. This is where we are. Artcatt Jun 2023 #14
OMG They're swayed by peer and public opinion? Not the Law Gods they always told us about? bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #2
a heady rush of power? stopdiggin Jun 2023 #4
I had a theory that 4 of the 6 RW votes have been going out of their way rurallib Jun 2023 #3
it's been said before (and to a certain extent stopdiggin Jun 2023 #5
Richard Painter is commenting on the NYT story on yesterday's Scotus ruling FakeNoose Jun 2023 #8
The scary part is the court even considered ruling on it. spanone Jun 2023 #10
This is part of the influence plan by Leonard Leo. Midnight Writer Jun 2023 #11
Hoping MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #12
There is little to nothing to it Zeitghost Jun 2023 #13
Argument fails brooklynite Jun 2023 #15
Read the tweet again please Tomconroy Jun 2023 #16
I did; said nothing about the point that the SC vote was before the unpleasantness with Thomas. brooklynite Jun 2023 #17
Dobbs Tomconroy Jun 2023 #18

Johnny2X2X

(19,905 posts)
1. Yeah yeah
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 12:03 PM
Jun 2023

They're about to hand out some extreme right winged decisions and all this talk that they've softened will be forgotten.

Elessar Zappa

(14,584 posts)
6. Yes but Barret, Kavanaugh, and Roberts
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 01:06 PM
Jun 2023

aren’t as consistently crazy as the other 3 fascists. I’ll take what we can get from them.

Johnny2X2X

(19,905 posts)
7. They're going to throw out affirmative action this week
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 01:15 PM
Jun 2023

Sure, they have surprised on several rulings, but they are still extremists.

bucolic_frolic

(44,561 posts)
2. OMG They're swayed by peer and public opinion? Not the Law Gods they always told us about?
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 12:04 PM
Jun 2023

They can find middle ground when they decide to look for it? So what prompted all the radical right rulings?

stopdiggin

(11,811 posts)
4. a heady rush of power?
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 12:53 PM
Jun 2023

A 6-3 majority - and Alito unleashed. Picture a drunken frat house party at 2:30am ... But the morning - does eventually roll around again.

rurallib

(62,667 posts)
3. I had a theory that 4 of the 6 RW votes have been going out of their way
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 12:06 PM
Jun 2023

to distance themselves of the stink of Thomas' bribery or be perceived that they hav been bought.
Especially Roberts whose tenure as Chief has been exceptionally political.

Certainly Thomas and Alito don't care.

stopdiggin

(11,811 posts)
5. it's been said before (and to a certain extent
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 01:01 PM
Jun 2023

demonstrated by history) that the 'legitimacy' of the court resides to some degree in public opinion. And - much as some on the court bridle and would like to throw off that yoke - the rational players recognize there is essential truth there.

FakeNoose

(33,856 posts)
8. Richard Painter is commenting on the NYT story on yesterday's Scotus ruling
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 01:20 PM
Jun 2023
The Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected a legal theory that would have radically reshaped how federal elections are conducted by giving state legislatures largely unchecked power to set rules for federal elections and to draw congressional maps warped by partisan gerrymandering.

The vote was 6 to 3, with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. writing the majority opinion. The Constitution, he said, “does not exempt state legislatures from the ordinary constraints imposed by state law.” Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Neil M. Gorsuch dissented.

The decision followed other important rulings this term in which the court’s three liberal members were in the majority, including ones on the Voting Rights Act, immigration and tribal rights. Though some of the biggest cases are still to come, probably arriving by the end of the week, the court has so far repeatedly repudiated aggressive arguments from conservative litigants.

The case concerned the “independent state legislature” theory. It is based on a reading of the Constitution’s Elections Clause, which says, “The times, places and manner of holding elections for senators and representatives shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof.”


So ... Dobbs wasn't really a part of this issue at all. The Alt-right Scotus justices were and are being treated like lepers in DC society because they are - moral - lepers. Dobbs is still operative, until further notice.

Midnight Writer

(22,264 posts)
11. This is part of the influence plan by Leonard Leo.
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 01:35 PM
Jun 2023

Introduce Justices to very wealthy patrons, give them a taste of the good life, wow them with extravagance, flatter them, and make it clear that all this prestige and luxury goes away if they stray from the script.

Zeitghost

(4,052 posts)
13. There is little to nothing to it
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 02:05 PM
Jun 2023

For one, if you follow the justices and their judicial philosophies, almost every decision is fairly consistent.

You also have to remember that the partisan bickering and grandstanding is theater for the voters. For the most part they are all buddies behind closed doors. Scalia and Ginsburg were close friends and vacationed together while their ardent supporters and fans hated each other. Also look at how fast all 9 justices jumped to issue a statement criticizing calls to impose standards and oversight of the court. They are all institutionalists to some degree or another.

brooklynite

(96,526 posts)
15. Argument fails
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 02:20 PM
Jun 2023

The Court DECISION occurred after the reports about Thomas and Alito came out, but the VOTE on the case came months ago.

brooklynite

(96,526 posts)
17. I did; said nothing about the point that the SC vote was before the unpleasantness with Thomas.
Wed Jun 28, 2023, 04:16 PM
Jun 2023

Moore v Harper was argued back in December. The vote would have been held shortly after. The intervening months when revelations about Thomas and Alito came out was simply to allow for the writing of the decision.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The 'No Dinner Parties' e...