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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 08:02 AM Jun 2023

Climate nears point of no return as land, sea temperatures break records, experts say

By David Stanway
June 30, 20236:20 AM EDT
Updated an hour ago


Temperature records topple around the world
Sea temperatures also hit record high
Climate talks failing to respond to extreme weather emergencies
U.S. climate envoy Kerry expected in Beijing in July



SINGAPORE, June 30 (Reuters) - The target of keeping long-term global warming within 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7 Fahrenheit) is moving out of reach, climate experts say, with nations failing to set more ambitious goals despite months of record-breaking heat on land and sea.

As envoys gathered in Bonn in early June to prepare for this year's annual climate talks in November, average global surface air temperatures were more than 1.5C above pre-industrial levels for several days, the EU-funded Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S) said.
https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/climate-nears-point-no-return-land-sea-temperatures-break-records-experts-2023-06-30/


( Democrats do not have partners to solve this problem, we all know the culprits and the remedy. It is deeply distressing to need them because they will never bend against their big donors. They have children, and grandchildren, but that seems irrelevant as reflected in their voting record.)


House Republicans to introduce climate change strategy with eye on midterms

In leaning too much into fossil fuels to counter Biden’s more aggressive climate agenda, Republicans risk turning off swing voters in states and districts already feeling the effects of climate change, with forecasts predicting a brutal summer for wildfires, extreme heat and drought. https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/climate-nears-point-no-return-land-sea-temperatures-break-records-experts-2023-06-30/

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Climate nears point of no return as land, sea temperatures break records, experts say (Original Post) BeckyDem Jun 2023 OP
To believe that the human organism will do anything significant is a fools bet. bullimiami Jun 2023 #1
I wouldn't even say humankind had a decent run EYESORE 9001 Jun 2023 #3
+1 2naSalit Jun 2023 #4
Scientist have warn mankind for ages....................... Lovie777 Jun 2023 #2
Scientists have been warning humanity ALL of my not-so-short life. n/t CousinIT Jun 2023 #6
The quarterly profit report trumps all. orthoclad Jun 2023 #9
Drill, Baby, Drill! orthoclad Jun 2023 #5
We have overloaded the earth with humans. Progressive dog Jun 2023 #7
No, just with bloated First Worlders orthoclad Jun 2023 #8
That we could argue about Progressive dog Jun 2023 #11
Surprised, but only that it took this long. ananda Jun 2023 #10

bullimiami

(13,263 posts)
1. To believe that the human organism will do anything significant is a fools bet.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 08:11 AM
Jun 2023

Nature will re-balance.
There will be a climate apocalypse.
Human numbers will fall to sustainable levels.
So it goes.

As a species, humans are no smarter than yeast.

EYESORE 9001

(26,392 posts)
3. I wouldn't even say humankind had a decent run
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 08:34 AM
Jun 2023

I think there’s a consensus among scientists that it’s been 1 million years, give or take, since humanoids started evolving the ability to use fire to cook meat, providing the stimulus for evolving larger brains. Fat lot of good it’s done us. We’ve irretrievably fouled our nest to the extent that many other species will die as well.

Life will go on in some form. Perhaps. Just spitballing here, but if accelerating rates of heating from the sun continue, could a self-sustaining chain reaction turn this planet into Venus 2.0?

Don’t mind me. Happy Friday

Lovie777

(13,240 posts)
2. Scientist have warn mankind for ages.......................
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 08:27 AM
Jun 2023

a lot of the scientific information have been and continue to be hidden for profit. The earth is slowly being destroyed by mankind, and the elite is looking for escape to the stars.

It is rarely mentioned about the poles melting, profit supersede the destruction of rain forests, pollution of mother earth both to the skies, land and water. Sucking up earth's natural resources with no replacement. Killing, murdering, suffering, maiming earth's previous life, including mankind in the everlasting hatred for each other with the approval of religions.

orthoclad

(2,998 posts)
5. Drill, Baby, Drill!
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 09:26 AM
Jun 2023

Willow
Mountain Valley Pipeline
Tennessee Valley pipelines

President Manchin Rules!

Progressive dog

(7,159 posts)
7. We have overloaded the earth with humans.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:06 AM
Jun 2023

The use of fossil fuels has made it possible and is now necessary for the survival of the eight billion that already live. The population continues to grow.
I think we passed the point of no return decades ago. Temperatures will continue to rise, the glaciers will continue to melt, and fossil fuel use will continue to increase until we have burned all the fossil fuel we can find.
Back when Jimmy Carter was President, he had solar panels installed on the White House. Nearly half a century later, over 80% of our electricity still comes from fossil fuels and electricity used has more than doubled.

orthoclad

(2,998 posts)
8. No, just with bloated First Worlders
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:57 AM
Jun 2023

And yes, Reagan taking down the solar panels was the turning point.

Progressive dog

(7,159 posts)
11. That we could argue about
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 07:14 PM
Jun 2023

First world birthrates are much much lower. Most first world nations, including the USA, have birthrates below replacement rates.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4255510/

The fertility of the population of the United States is below replacement among those native born, and above replacement among immigrant families and the socially deprived (Singh et al., 2001).
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