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(94,261 posts)
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 11:47 AM Jun 2023

Pres. Biden To Detail New Steps on Debt Relief After Supreme Court Ruling

June 30, 2023 at 11:05 AM

President Joe Biden will announce new steps to protect student-loan borrowers, a White House official said, after the Supreme Court threw out his plan to forgive billions of dollars in debt, undoing one of his signature initiatives.

Biden will speak on the court’s ruling and detail the actions his administration is taking in remarks Friday, according to the official, who was familiar with the president’s plans.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-30/democrats-borrowers-decry-supreme-court-student-loan-relief-decision

The Hill @thehill 32m
#BREAKING: President Biden will announce new actions to protect student loan borrowers following the Supreme Court ruling that struck down his student debt relief plan, according to a source within the White House.

“While we strongly disagree with the court, we prepared for this scenario. The president will have more to say today,” the source told The Hill. “The president will make clear he’s not done fighting yet and will announce new actions to protect student loan borrowers.”

The president will also make “crystal clear” to student loan borrowers that. “Republicans are responsible for denying them the relief that President Biden has been fighting to get to them,” according to the source.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4075762-biden-to-announce-new-actions-on-student-loans-after-supreme-court-ruling/

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Pres. Biden To Detail New Steps on Debt Relief After Supreme Court Ruling (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2023 OP
Biden better unveil actual relief or it's all irrelevant. Beautiful Disaster Jun 2023 #1
Where is this nonsense coming from? AkFemDem Jun 2023 #4
Biden specifically linked the restart date to coincide with the ruling. Beautiful Disaster Jun 2023 #7
The entire foundation is about the national emergency AkFemDem Jun 2023 #9
And yet, he can still extend the pause. Beautiful Disaster Jun 2023 #12
Confidence in committed Democratic goals seems somewhat lacking. Hortensis Jun 2023 #17
He's human. Beautiful Disaster Jun 2023 #18
No "trying" necessary. The GOP and SCOTUS extremists are 100% at fault. Hortensis Jun 2023 #20
And those on the far left mcar Jun 2023 #30
Lol, Democrats in office always fail to do the impossible, Hortensis Jun 2023 #35
Mahlao, Hortensis.. I can't Cha Jun 2023 #25
:) Mahalo for voice of good sense. Biden's announcing his next Hortensis Jun 2023 #32
I saw that.. I bet he's Cha Jun 2023 #33
"The Blame Game"? WTF PAMod Jun 2023 #5
You are giving very much this: W_HAMILTON Jun 2023 #8
That was why he/she was sent here.... Sogo Jun 2023 #14
This is the first time I've ever said anything critical of Biden. Beautiful Disaster Jun 2023 #16
I'm not blaming Biden at all for the ruling. Beautiful Disaster Jun 2023 #15
And all over GD now. Kingofalldems Jun 2023 #22
This +1000! mcar Jun 2023 #31
Uh huh. Elessar Zappa Jun 2023 #13
What do you mean "unveil actual relief"? Takket Jun 2023 #21
Someone floated 0 interest. That would be something. Beautiful Disaster Jun 2023 #23
Do you want him to sign a bunch of populist crap with a big Sharpie & hold it up like a toddler... Hekate Jun 2023 #26
Maybe Congress could pass a law or something mcar Jun 2023 #29
Easy. Make ALL student loans interest-free. blm Jun 2023 #2
He needs something bold like that. Beautiful Disaster Jun 2023 #3
How is Biden playing the blame game? That role appears to be for those who think the POTUS job Hekate Jun 2023 #27
Biden's announcing his plan for further action today. Hortensis Jun 2023 #34
He's not playing the blame game. Why blm Jun 2023 #36
That would be fantastic. The interest rates are ridiculous. zuul Jun 2023 #11
I hope he just delays student loan repayments even further. W_HAMILTON Jun 2023 #6
Yeah, that's the only thing that's going to help until he figures out another plan liberal_mama Jun 2023 #10
Yup. Beautiful Disaster Jun 2023 #24
Someone on another message board observed gratuitous Jun 2023 #19
The SCOTUS half-dozen is telling us one thing with their many rulings: "Peons! Know your place!" Hekate Jun 2023 #28
 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
1. Biden better unveil actual relief or it's all irrelevant.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:01 PM
Jun 2023

The blame game isn't going to work since he had the power to pause payments indefinitely and he gave that up in the debt ceiling negotiations.

 

AkFemDem

(2,508 posts)
4. Where is this nonsense coming from?
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:24 PM
Jun 2023

No, Biden did not have the authority or practical ability to pause student loan debt repayment forever. It was tied directly into the declared national emergency for Covid- there is no practical way to keep the United States under a declared national emergency into perpetuity.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
7. Biden specifically linked the restart date to coincide with the ruling.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:30 PM
Jun 2023
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamminsky/2022/11/22/biden-extends-student-loan-pause-into-2023---key-details/

Biden’s most recent extension of the student loan pause was set to end on December 31. But as Biden’s one-time student loan forgiveness program has been blocked by federal courts, the administration faced pressure to extend the pause again.


It wasn't tied to the COVID emergency, which ended in May.
 

AkFemDem

(2,508 posts)
9. The entire foundation is about the national emergency
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:34 PM
Jun 2023

That is why we had a pause, that is why the HEROES act was even invoked. This kind of bitter revision has no bearing on the legal, constitutional and practical realities Biden and the department of Ed have been faced with.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Confidence in committed Democratic goals seems somewhat lacking.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 01:25 PM
Jun 2023

When I'm in a bad mood it's hard to feel sympathy and blow this stuff off. Just fwiw, assumptions that Biden could have accomplished debt relief but refused without acceptable reason are personally offensive because if true that'd mean I was an idiot. And this ruling. even if expected, has put me in a bad mood.

Here's an idea: 40M Americans just LOST debt relief Democrats arranged for them and President Biden signed into law. We have a big election coming up. Wouldn't it be helpful if NONE of them took the notion that somehow their continued debt was Biden's fault?

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
18. He's human.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 01:31 PM
Jun 2023

I don't think Biden intentionally set things up to be sabotaged. I'm not even subscribing to the idea that Biden did all this knowing it was going to likely be struck down by the Courts and he could still get a political win and not have to own a controversial decision (there are those who believe this).

I do think Biden gambled that the court would uphold the order and that's why he allowed for the freeze to be used in negotiation tactics to avoid default.

But now he's in a tough spot. He can try to blame the GOP and the Supreme Court, and rightfully so, but when payments resume in August, he'll have to explain that too and it's not going to be satisfactory to a lot of people who trusted that they would get their loans forgiven.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. No "trying" necessary. The GOP and SCOTUS extremists are 100% at fault.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 01:40 PM
Jun 2023

Democrats are NOT to blame for what they do.

Those who support student debt relief need to spread THIS word: We're for. They're against.

mcar

(46,056 posts)
30. And those on the far left
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 02:25 PM
Jun 2023

who seem to think the president is a dictator who can do anything he wants.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. Lol, Democrats in office always fail to do the impossible,
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 02:51 PM
Jun 2023

as defined by those wiser than us, but we keep electing them -- 81 million of us last election and WE. NEVER. LEARN!

Cha

(319,076 posts)
25. Mahlao, Hortensis.. I can't
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 01:57 PM
Jun 2023

believe it's Pres Biden's "fault".

I know he wants this for Students.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. :) Mahalo for voice of good sense. Biden's announcing his next
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 02:30 PM
Jun 2023

actions on the student loan front later today.

PAMod

(944 posts)
5. "The Blame Game"? WTF
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:28 PM
Jun 2023

Elections matter. Blame is 100% relevant. Otherwise, morons who vomit shit about the two parties being the same help ruin any chance for progress.

No.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
8. You are giving very much this:
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:33 PM
Jun 2023


But go on, blame good Democrats for the decisions of bad Republicans! It's not like THAT'S HOW WE FUCKING ENDED UP HERE TO BEGIN WITH.

How many more rights and freedoms are the far left gonna watch get stripped away by right-wingers while they lay the blame at the feet of people like Hillary and Biden, hmm?

Sogo

(7,191 posts)
14. That was why he/she was sent here....
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 01:04 PM
Jun 2023

Every time there's a major ruling that goes against the Dems, posters with very low posting history show up here to sow discontent and discouragement....
 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
15. I'm not blaming Biden at all for the ruling.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 01:05 PM
Jun 2023

I'm saying his taking the extension of the freeze off the table is problematic because that was an action within his control.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
21. What do you mean "unveil actual relief"?
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 01:42 PM
Jun 2023

He did unveil actual relief, and SCOTUS just said he can’t do it without Congress. What actual relief do you think he should unveil?

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
23. Someone floated 0 interest. That would be something.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 01:50 PM
Jun 2023

Or if he could find a way to extend the pause. But that's the whole point: he should not have given away the ability to extend the payment pause. That would have been relief too.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
26. Do you want him to sign a bunch of populist crap with a big Sharpie & hold it up like a toddler...
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 02:07 PM
Jun 2023

…showing off his crayon drawing?

Biden is a mature adult who knows very well what he can and cannot do, and he has a backup plan for everything. If it turns out something cannot be accomplished, he’ll tell us why. Do you want him jumping up and down throwing ketchup at the walls? Would that make you feel better?




mcar

(46,056 posts)
29. Maybe Congress could pass a law or something
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 02:23 PM
Jun 2023

Maybe all the people on social media blaming the President for this should vote for people who will pass these laws instead of voting "their conscience" so Republicans get elected.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
3. He needs something bold like that.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:23 PM
Jun 2023

He can't afford to just play the blame game, not with him agreeing to start student loan payments in August.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
27. How is Biden playing the blame game? That role appears to be for those who think the POTUS job
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 02:10 PM
Jun 2023

… comes with a magic wand and a crown, and then blame Biden for not accomplishing all our desires.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Biden's announcing his plan for further action today.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 02:38 PM
Jun 2023

There'll be more material to "play the blame game" with.

blm

(114,658 posts)
36. He's not playing the blame game. Why
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:38 PM
Jun 2023

would you press that inaccuracy on a political forum?

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
10. Yeah, that's the only thing that's going to help until he figures out another plan
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:37 PM
Jun 2023

Just extend the pause longer until the details are worked out for student loan forgiveness.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. Someone on another message board observed
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 01:36 PM
Jun 2023

Their student loan debt was forgiven under the previous program, and the effect was "it was remarkably empowering to finally feel very nearly debt free."

Now you see the problem that the Court had to fix with this ruling. People getting out from under the grinding heel of never-ending debt, when they've paid back the principle yet still owe more than they ever borrowed, is a condition that simply must not be allowed to continue.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
28. The SCOTUS half-dozen is telling us one thing with their many rulings: "Peons! Know your place!"
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 02:13 PM
Jun 2023

The dirty half-dozen.

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