I am so confused, I need to understand this.

[Tesha]

The court said no to the student loan forgiveness,
but the covid loans were forgiven.

Right?
Businesses walked away with, what? several million? Questionable loans to questionable 'businesses'.

https://www.pandemicoversight.gov/data-interactive-tools/data-stories/how-many-paycheck-protection-program-loans-have-been-forgiven

What is the difference?

Isn't loan forgiveness loan forgiveness?

Is there a legal difference that I'm missing?

[live love laugh]

1. Irony means nothing to Republicans.

[inthewind21]

2. The difference is

COVID relief was a bill passed by congress. Student loan was an executive order.

[Bonx]

5. The unpopular, but correct answer.

[inthewind21]

6. Question is

will the answer be understood?

[Bonx]

7. A Paul Simon quote

"a man hears what he wants to hear.. And disregards the rest"

[inthewind21]

13. People talking without speaking

People hearing without listening. One of my favorites.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

10. Exactly n/t

[Beautiful Disaster]

3. The wording in the law passed by congress for PPP allowed total forgiveness...

No such thing exists with the student loan freeze.

[Silent Type]

4. As others point out, the PPP forgiveness was passed by Congress. Hope Biden can work something out.

It's really disappointing that Congress is so split.

Biden is on right now, pushing the income driven loan repayment. It's a really good program until something else is done.

[Caliman73]

8. No legal difference, just difference in Beneficiary.

Most people who take on student loans are middle class and working class people. A lot of the people who took out PPP Loans were rich owners of businesses.

There has ALWAYS been a preference for the Wealthy in terms of government largess.

Even people in government who were railing about "irresponsible borrowers" of student loans, like Greene were found to have had hundreds of thousands in PPP loans forgiven.

[doc03]

9. They are still running ads on TV for businesses to file for COVID relief. nt

[SickOfTheOnePct]

12. There is a legal difference

One was passed by Congress (PPP) and signed by the President.

The other was an Executive Order (student loan forgiveness) that never went through Congress.

It's literally a legal difference - the former is a law, the latter isn't.

[Caliman73]

17. So is DACA and that is still in effect.

The executive has certain powers to enact policy through the various administrative agencies.

The SCOTUS ruling was bullshit, not based on anything except the Conservative justices' contempt for anyone except the wealthy.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

18. Not all executive orders are unconstitutional

I happen to believe the ruling on student debt is the correct one, although I realize that's an unpopular opinion.

[inthewind21]

14. Really

No legal difference? None at all?

[Caliman73]

15. Yes I understand the Congress v Executive thing.

The difference is still the beneficiary and motivation.

Why is it that Congress WON'T even touch Student Debt relief?

Why is it that there are subsidies for Wealthy fossil fuel extractors?

The point still stands. Anything that primarily benefits the middle and working classes WILL NOT receive support from the entire Republican Party and from some Democrats.

What motivates legislation between Parties? There is more to it than just "let's make laws".

[LAS14]

11. The court said this forgiveness plan involved too much money...

...for the President to do on his own. Required congress.

[Midnight Writer]

16. I'm still working on white students need protection from discrimination but LGBTQ+ people don't.

I think it may have to do with the doctrine called "It's OK If You Are A Republican".