The supreme court is destabilizing to the nation.

[Model35mech]

By overturning long-standing precedents and running roughshod over American Empathy for our fellow citizens through the Courts systemization of unfairness as defined by extreme interpretations of archaic Christian codes dubiously applied to the 21st century . Scores of millions of Americans will find it impossible to respect the court.

They are destroying the people's confidence in the philosophical foundations and the humanity of formal structures of our most important institutions. And the people ARE disaffected.

As oppressive states around the world have learned over the past 600 years this sort of behavior initiates risks. Significant numbers of our people are likely to turn their backs on the mask of decorum of the not normal behaviors of the Roberts Court. It is not at all beyond imagination that the people will seek more personal, immediate, and rowdy relief.

I really never thought that SCOTUS would be the agency that would endorse ideologies and behaviors that pit us against each other in a desperate fight around efforts to save national empathy and charity as important guiding principles of American Governance. Without these qualities American governance will more deeply descend into sanctioning incivility.

SCOTUS' conservative majority has become the vestmented judges and Keepers of the Faith of a theologically anchored inquisition while Republicans at the state and national levels feed ever more groups to be victimized thru the tyranny of radical conservatism of Christian Nationalism.

[louslobbs]

1. The republicans didn't steal those

seats for nothing.

[Model35mech]

3. Yes the conflict has been underway for a long time.

[roamer65]

2. "Those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."

- John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

[louslobbs]

5. Yes!

👍🏻

[Model35mech]

8. Yes. And I have little doubt that Conservative intolerance and incivility

is the torch that will ignite the bonfire.

The system really has no mechanisms to deal with a time when the Highest Court in the land proclaims it sanctions conservative incivility?

Were we not be outraged when German Courts endorsed Nazi tyranny against its minority citizens, and those in the rest of Europe.

[slightlv]

17. I hope you don't mind, but I'm

stealing that quote and using it everywhere I have a sigline from now on! Good find!!!!

BTW, I absolutely agree with every word you said. At some point, we're going to hit a point of no return on the left. That's the point where people, as a whole, have had it up to "here" with these insane, corrupt rulings by an unelected group of grifters. It might start peacefully with civil disobedience, but because the RWNJs always show up to push our faces into the corruption and laugh, it'll devolve quickly.

I, for one, hit that point a long while back. I'm now so bold as to come out of store after a small rainfall and, seeing a Rainbow in the sky, holler at my husband "Should we start yelling and cussing at the rainbow, now? After all, isn't that what all the Magats do?! (And I'm yelling this at him in the busy parking lot as he tries to get to the car in a hurry (trying to keep me from going off the "deep end" and doing crap he really doesn't want me to do, knowing the cops are only 4 blocks away).

Still, I persevere... I'm just getting more vocal about it, especially after I gave my last f*ck a few years ago. Funny thing about turning 60 and everywhere you turn, people treat you differently because 'oh, my! you're just a little old lady... (emphasis on the old). grrrrr

[roamer65]

18. Go for it.

My hero, JFK said it.

[yankee87]

37. Awesome statement

So true. I guess the white, male system of supremacy won’t give up without a literal revolution. What a sad state of affairs in this Supreme Court.

[RKP5637]

4. I have absolutely no respect for SCOTUS. Several of them are bozos and

some are corrupt. And a few should never have been on SCOTUS.

[Marcus IM]

6. And the destruction of the administrative state is THE federalist/libertarian goal.

[rubbersole]

7. Have some sympathy...

..it cost Leonard Leo a ton of dark money to install these Opus Dei corrupt justices. The Koch brothers had to shorten their super yacht by two feet to realize the constitutionally of white male privilege. Sacrifices had to be made.

[erronis]

25. Well noted. (Your sarcasm). They'll say,"It's but a pittance."

[cilla4progress]

9. Destablizing - exactly my sentiment.

The reason precedent is so important is so that citizens can have some expectation of an orderly march toward progress. Not blindsiding us with some new out there theory and shoving it down our throats. And SCOTUS didn't even need to take all these cases - no justiceable, ripe claim! They are clearing room on their docket for them.

All in the context of their serious ethics violations ...

And then for that whiny little b**** CJ Roberts to complain about being criticized.. SMDH.

[Model35mech]

10. While Scalia was on the court, one of the justices, perhaps him

said something to the effect that decisions of the court need to fit withing the expectations and thereby the consent of the People.

Maybe a DUer with knowledge of the court can add that to your post.

You are right-on point!

[2naSalit]

11. Yeah, that's the agenda right there...

Destabilize.

[ancianita]

29. They proved it in their ruling for the hypothetical damage done to a woman who claimed her

website had the right to deny LGBTQ+ business.

In that ruling, this SCOTUS privileges prejudice against the immutable characteristics of Americans under cover of contract law capitalism.

This SCOTUS, that for years and years can't even file honest financial disclosure forms, is disqualified from defining which Americans can accept public contract offers. In the public world of commerce, longstanding social prejudices should never be legally acceptable under cover of religious beliefs.

[Chainfire]

12. As long as the people are nearly equally divided and we stay at each other's throats, the powerful

people can do anything that they want. If there weren't strife and division, they would create it out of thin air.

It is obvious in the way the Court is ruling how they view the future of the Nation. I believe that they are bought and paid for. Their's is a vision of modern feudalism with kings, queens and barons and lords, and the rest of us disposable pawns who grow their food and build their palaces. It has gone so far already that we won't be able to stop it by the normal political processes.

[Model35mech]

14. What the CAN DO would not be what wisdom says they SHOULD DO

Yes the nation is divided, rather evenly, and as the eveness has developed the Conservative elements have become ever more radical.

The court deciding that Sanctioned Incivility on the basis of Christian-National beliefs is a hairpin turn in the trajectory of America.

We may often fail in our civil interactions, but our deep belief is that we are an Empathetic and Charitable People who would not purposefully harm our fellow citizends. SCOTUS is decapitating that belief.

Across the American Revolution (in which my family had a many times Great Grandfather and his siblings) only 11 percent of American colonists actually supported war.

Today I rather suspect that well beyond 11% of Americans find themselves REVOLTed by the Court's announced decisions.

Where incivility takes us is difficult to know, but I am pretty sure that it will involve confrontation between Republicans and Democrats.

And in the heat of confrontation, things can ignite.

[slightlv]

20. I think there will be many "confrontations"

before things begin to get on a right track again. The 1% want us divided so they can rule us more easily. They want to keep us poor and hungry so they can tell us where to work and what we'll work for if we want to survive.

In short, the RWNJs are tearing down civilization. Civilization is simply an unspoken contract we all buy into in order to live and work together in an ever-increasing smaller world. When you have 1/3 of the people NOT buying into that contract, then chaos reigns supreme.

This is what Steve Bannon has been instigating all over the world, not just here in the U.S. If there was a vengeful, wrathful Christian god, he's lost because Satan won.

I do take exception with the equally divided. I don't think we are. I believe it's closer to 1/3 are Magats, 1/3 to 1/4 are "Independents" who think that label will keep them away from death threats and gun fights, and 1/3+ that are actually pretty damned progressive, regardless of party, and who are sick and tired of having this crap crammed down our throats.

Personally, I'll throw in with the Satanic Temple!

[TexasDem69]

13. Nothing in any ruling has destabilized our country

People disagree and work to change the outcome through the democratic process.

[Chainfire]

15. It is part of the death by a thousand cuts.

[Model35mech]

16. That is of course the dream we once held on to

But we now have a court that has discarded American's humanity toward each other.

The decisions of today's SCOTUS sanction incivility and expunging of tolerance and charity from guiding principles of American governance.

The dreaming is over. The light of day has revealed a harsh justice system whose decisions ill conform to what we dreamed.

[roamer65]

19. I suspect the same was said in Germany in 1933.

“Don’t worry about the Enabling Act, everything will be fine.”

[slightlv]

21. Yippers... trying to change things is just such hard work!

better to keep your head down while spouting platitudes of "we've been here before, it'll all work out."

Said someone who has NOT had his rights stripped.... yet.

[roamer65]

22. ...

[slightlv]

39. I think may be one of the only people not to see

this film yet. Guess I'm gonna have to look it up! (or... "look up" as the case may be!)

[Model35mech]

23. It's not the text of today's rulings, it is the IMPLICATIONS of many rulings

that this session has put forward.

The court is sanctioning intolerance, lack of empathy, and absence of charity.

This will haunt our future, because all these qualities (not named in the Constitution) are guiding principles to compassionate governance.

[roamer65]

24. In other words, it's being Republican.

It’s a GQP court.

[Model35mech]

26. No. It's their conservatism.

They are radical conservatives.

[ancianita]

31. EXACTLY. Take the ruling that allows excluding LGBTQ+ business from a wedding website offer.

That SCOTUS ruling privileges prejudice against the immutable characteristics of Americans under cover of contract law capitalism.

What if this ruling starts being applied by landlords refusing to rent to single women, or to Black Americans, or to Jewish people. What if it starts being applied by grocery stores refusing to sell to certain people? Will they all have to post signs beyond "no shirt, no shoes, no service?" How does that affect the public? Assuming you're a white christian heterosexual male, or white christian married woman, that's not your problem, so anyone who wins some patriarchal birth lottery doesn't have to care? This ruling opens the door for some pretty awful destabilizing of what were formerly diverse communities and "a more perfect union."

This SCOTUS, full of conservative justices who for years and years can't even file honest financial disclosure forms, is disqualified from defining which Americans can accept public contract offers.

In the public world of commerce, longstanding social prejudices against immutable human characteristics should never be legally acceptable under cover of religious beliefs.

[Evolve Dammit]

32. good response

[kimbutgar]

27. Todays supreme court is an offshoot of the Republican Party

It is not longer considered a neutral arbitrator of the rule of law but a partisan hack judicial branch of the US Government. The 6 are brought and paid for justices owned by billionaires.

We need to take back the house, have larger margin the senate and re elect by massive numbers for President Biden! And then increase the size of the court to represent the 13 district courts. I was kind of on the fence about the increase but now I know it needs to be done.

[Model35mech]

33. Republican nominations influenced by the federalist society

The leadership of the Federalist Society has worked hard to be THE go-to source of SCOTUS nominations.

And they succeeded.

Leonard Leo succeeded in turning thes referrals toward radical conservatives with roman catholic backgrounds.

IIRC there are now 6 practicing catholics and 2 justices who were once roman catholics. The result of having 8 people with catholic is a significant conservative catholic religious bend to the deliberations of the court.

It's doomed as a notion of reality that this is a country that, in the interest of tolerance of all faiths, practices separation of church and state.

[kimbutgar]

38. So sadly true

[dchill]

28. Yeah. Undermining the Constitution IS destabilizing.

It's hard work, but somebody's gotta do it.

[flashman13]

30. Over the long term this SC is far more damaging to democracy than Trump.

It represents the ultimate gerrymander.

[Aussie105]

34. When you get a bunch of old philosophers together . . .

and their overriding desire is to show they are still important and relevant, you will get this.

I wonder if Joe remembers he can sign some executive orders and make any Supreme Court decision disappear in a puff of smoke?

[LoisB]

35. On the radio, I just heard a professor (UCLA, I think) say that this court rules from the

perspective of plantation owners. An apt description considering how far back they want to take us. Wonder how Clarence will handle it when they roll back interracial marriage? Maybe they will carve out an exception for him.

[vlyons]

36. The church has always been an institution of tyranny and dominance

Since its establishment under Constantine the Great, the church has waged endless wars and pogroms against non-believers and against Christians of a different stripe. Always willing to impose their version of god on everyone else.