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bigtree

(94,672 posts)
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 07:21 PM Jun 2023

Joy Reid: 'SC essentially says the only group that can't be discriminated against are white people'

Last edited Sat Jul 1, 2023, 05:17 PM - Edit history (7)

Joy Reid on her show just now:

...what the Supreme Court has essentially said, is the only group that can (should) not be discriminated against, or percieved to be discriminated against (in their view) are white people.


She's essentially right.

full remark (on edit. Apologies for not including this when I posted and sparking misunderstanding of what she fully said and meant. I just found the vid this morning and transcribed the remark from the captions) :

...what the Supreme Court has essentially said, is the only group that can not be discriminated against, or percieved to be discriminated against are white people, but you can discriminate against gay people as long as you say you're an artist and you're sensitive about your art... so what they're saying is the only protected class are white people who want to get into Harvard, and rich people, but you can discriminate against everyone else: Native Americans who want water, people facing the death penalty, everybody else...

watch:


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Joy Reid: 'SC essentially says the only group that can't be discriminated against are white people' (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2023 OP
K&R, No one would be shocked if Roberts court came out with this exact ruling tomorrow!! uponit7771 Jun 2023 #1
Alito better be careful malaise Jun 2023 #2
I found this from almost 18 years ago. Fuck Chris Matthews. Celerity Jun 2023 #3
Interesting malaise Jun 2023 #5
Straight white mzmolly Jun 2023 #4
Straight Male white people.. whathehell Jun 2023 #6
Older Straight Male white people... Scottie Mom Jun 2023 #8
Especially mzmolly Jun 2023 #10
Five of them on SCOTUS with one withering RWNJ female.. Scottie Mom Jun 2023 #12
Yes! mzmolly Jun 2023 #9
Well, maybe not as THE ENTIRE category of white people... Model35mech Jun 2023 #7
Indeed. mzmolly Jun 2023 #11
Straight white male. Irish_Dem Jun 2023 #13
Wrong Joy, women and LGBTQ can be white. we can do it Jun 2023 #14
STRAIGHT WHITE MEN Skittles Jun 2023 #15
She's essentially wrong. 👎 nt Raine Jul 2023 #16
it's a clipped quote bigtree Jul 2023 #17

malaise

(297,963 posts)
2. Alito better be careful
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 07:27 PM
Jun 2023

It wasn’t that long ago when Italian-Americans were not recognized as white

Celerity

(54,884 posts)
3. I found this from almost 18 years ago. Fuck Chris Matthews.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 07:40 PM
Jun 2023

video at the link (amazing it still works)



Matthews falsely claimed Democrats accused Alito of being “lenient on the mob”

PUBLISHED 11/01/05

During MSNBC's October 31 coverage of the nomination of Judge Samuel A. Alito Jr. to the Supreme Court, Hardball host Chris Matthews repeatedly misrepresented a document about Alito that was circulated by Democrats. Matthews falsely claimed that the document accused Alito of being “lenient on the mob” and made the baseless assertion that, by mentioning a case involving organized crime, Democrats were “go[ing] after [Alito's Italian] ethnicity.” In fact, the document, available here, made no mention of Alito's ethnicity and simply noted that he lost a high-profile mob case -- not that he was “lenient” on anybody.

Though Matthews repeatedly waved the document in front of the cameras, he quoted from it only once -- and that quote in no way supported his description of the document.

Further, Matthews's descriptions of the document grew increasingly inaccurate as the day wore on. In his first reference to it, at roughly 2:30 p.m. ET, he described it as “going after ethnicity”; by the time he interviewed Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean at 5:45 p.m., that inaccurate description had morphed into a completely fabricated claim that the document accused Alito of being “lenient on the mob.”

Matthews's comments were approvingly quoted by the Republican National Committee and by Tim Chapman, a former Republican congressional aide who now writes for the conservative website Townhall.com. Conservative weblogs, including Captain's Quarters, RedState.org and Blogs for Bush, accused Democrats of “smearing” Alito based on the same misrepresentation of the document, and conservative websites WorldNetDaily and NewsMax repeated Matthews's false accusation.

Matthews's misrepresentation of the document began during an exchange with MSNBC host Lisa Daniels:

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Scottie Mom

(5,838 posts)
12. Five of them on SCOTUS with one withering RWNJ female..
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 08:33 PM
Jun 2023

..all they needed to turn back the tide on years and years of equality in the U.S.

You think they might go after the 1920 Amendment which gave women the right to vote?

After all...that did discriminate against the men in society!

 

Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
7. Well, maybe not as THE ENTIRE category of white people...
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 08:01 PM
Jun 2023

But, certainly white people have been discriminated against, by society and sometimes by government (immigration rules) across the 19th and 20th century

The Jews, the Irish, the Italians, the Slavs and probably many others have all faced it. BUT, after a generation or two the offspring of these white people look a lot like the other white people and on the street often can pass. So it's harder to keep the discrimination going.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
17. it's a clipped quote
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 09:04 AM
Jul 2023

Last edited Sat Jul 1, 2023, 05:18 PM - Edit history (1)

...the basic, fundamental, or intrinsic nature of the SC college 'diversity' opinion is the protection of white people.

The fact that others are at risk and under similar assault well noted in her full statement.

Joy first noted that only two classes are protected by the court, conservative christians and billionaires. She opened talking about the court:

"...taking the country back to the early 20th century to take away wiomen's rights over their own bodies, and the rights of LGBTQ people and people of color to just live equally."

The quote in the op came later... full remark:

...what the Supreme Court has essentially said, is the only group that can not be discriminated against, or percieved to be discriminated against are white people, but you can discriminate against gay people as long as you say you're an artist and you're sensitive about your art... so what they're saying is the only protected class are white people who want to get into Harvard, and rich people, but you can discriminate against everyone else: Native Americans who want water, people facing the death penalty, everybody else...

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