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ChoppinBroccoli

(3,900 posts)
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:51 PM Jun 2023

Can Someone Explain To Me Why A BUSINESS Owner Would Want To Turn Away BUSINESS?

It's anti-Capitalist. It's antithetical to the very notion of owning a business in the first place. And a lot of these businesses you hear about doing this stuff (a small bakery, a wedding website designer, etc.) sound like SMALL business just struggling to make it. Sounds to me like they might have been put up to it by someone else. Maybe someone with a lot of money. Maybe with assurances that they'd be well compensated for the business they lose by closing their doors to patrons.

I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I can think of NO other reason why a business owner would refuse BUSINESS. As a business owner, you live in FEAR of negative word of mouth (which is why "the customer is always right" came to be in the first place). These people don't seem to care. Doesn't smell right to me.

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Can Someone Explain To Me Why A BUSINESS Owner Would Want To Turn Away BUSINESS? (Original Post) ChoppinBroccoli Jun 2023 OP
Because that's how bigoted they are. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2023 #1
Probably so. 2naSalit Jun 2023 #2
I think your nose is on to something. Bluethroughu Jun 2023 #3
Just heard on Lawrence's show that the so called 'web designer' calguy Jun 2023 #4
my gut says it was a ruse to gain significant attention for profit msfiddlestix Jun 2023 #5
Remember the lunch-counter sit-ins? This SCOTUS ruling was written broadly enough that we... Hekate Jun 2023 #6
I recall the Red Hen Restaurant in Lexington, Va. that refused to serve Sarah Huckabee Sanders MichMan Jun 2023 #7
political ideology is not a protected class. I you want to say no Democrats allowed kelly1mm Jul 2023 #10
No one is claiming it is and neither did the OP's question MichMan Jul 2023 #15
Because they do business in a predominantly bigoted area Freethinker65 Jun 2023 #8
with them, the cruelty often is the point Skittles Jun 2023 #9
I think this was partly an attempt to gain customers that are anti gay JI7 Jul 2023 #11
hate is a deeper motivator than $ jcgoldie Jul 2023 #12
When they are a liar/grifter who can make more money playing a victim than making a sale? RockRaven Jul 2023 #13
Religion can cause that DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2023 #14
The Customer is NOT always right MichMan Jul 2023 #16
I turn away business. I pet sit. I turn away people. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2023 #17
I've told some customers to go to hell Kaleva Jul 2023 #23
Yep Effete Snob Jul 2023 #26
Because they use their business as a front for a tax write-off Emile Jul 2023 #18
Radical religious bigotry makes people moneyblind??? Model35mech Jul 2023 #19
being a bigot can and does build some business dembotoz Jul 2023 #20
Ever heard of that famous quote from Lyndon B. Johnson? W_HAMILTON Jul 2023 #21
Refusing some business may prevent losing more business Kaleva Jul 2023 #22
The SC decision seemed to be treating web site designing as though it's a preciously artistic allegorical oracle Jul 2023 #24
Bigotry trumps greed. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2023 #25

FoxNewsSucks

(11,696 posts)
1. Because that's how bigoted they are.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:56 PM
Jun 2023

I have a small business, and I am sure that some of my customers are republicon nuts. I've occasionally had the chance to inject reason to question what they think (such as grocery store owners who want to cut the food stamp program) but generally they don't make their politics known, so as long as their checks clear . . .

So these assholes are just bigoted "karen" types.

2naSalit

(102,767 posts)
2. Probably so.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:57 PM
Jun 2023

It was hypothetical which is against SCOTUS' purview. They are supposed to address actual problems, not pretend ones like this case was. There is no business that makes wedding web site, there is no customer whom she would have turned away and there is no harm to anyone so it's pure bullshit and they think we won't do anything about that.

calguy

(6,154 posts)
4. Just heard on Lawrence's show that the so called 'web designer'
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 11:01 PM
Jun 2023

was never asked to design a website by a gay couple.
I have to admit, I haven't followed this particular case, so all I know is bits and pieces I've heard hear and there.

The premise of the comments were that rich right, wing extremists are searching out cases to to bring before this court because they feel they can win anything put before this corrupt and biased Supreme Court.

I suspect we'll hear a lot more about this in the future, but given that these unelected zealots have lifetime appointments, they're beholden only to those who pay them their bribes, and there's not a hell of a lot we can do about it.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
5. my gut says it was a ruse to gain significant attention for profit
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 11:06 PM
Jun 2023

So many profitable options after this level of massive media attention.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
6. Remember the lunch-counter sit-ins? This SCOTUS ruling was written broadly enough that we...
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 11:09 PM
Jun 2023

…could easily find ourselves with segregated public spaces again.

Turning away business is what bigots do, because it gives them that warm glow of being the “right sort of people” who are better than, and have power over, the “wrong sort of people.”

College students who integrated public lunch-counter space by simply sitting in that space had pots of hot coffee poured over their heads, among other things.

The Dirty Half-Dozen are vile throwbacks.

MichMan

(17,147 posts)
7. I recall the Red Hen Restaurant in Lexington, Va. that refused to serve Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 11:13 PM
Jun 2023

and other Trump officials. They were widely praised for taking that stance.

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
10. political ideology is not a protected class. I you want to say no Democrats allowed
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 01:50 AM
Jul 2023

(or no Republicans allowed) in your establishment you are free to do so (at least federally).

MichMan

(17,147 posts)
15. No one is claiming it is and neither did the OP's question
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 06:07 AM
Jul 2023

The OP merely asked why would a business owner want to turn away business? Some do for a myriad of reasons, including the restaurant I mentioned.

Did you see any mention of a protected class in the OP, because I didn't.

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
8. Because they do business in a predominantly bigoted area
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 11:17 PM
Jun 2023

They believe pandering to bigots, by proving they themselves are intolerant bigots, will bring them more business from the multitudes of bigots nearby that will seek them out.


On the plus side, now that it is declared legal to be a public bigot and refuse service based upon inconsistent hypocritical beliefs, the go fund me option is taken away.

Skittles

(171,689 posts)
9. with them, the cruelty often is the point
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 11:39 PM
Jun 2023

look how they consistently they vote against their own self-interests

RockRaven

(19,358 posts)
13. When they are a liar/grifter who can make more money playing a victim than making a sale?
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 02:41 AM
Jul 2023

It's no conspiracy theory to point out an asshole is an asshole.

DontBelieveEastisEas

(1,211 posts)
14. Religion can cause that
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 02:56 AM
Jul 2023

A person may believe that their God will bring their business wealth if they do things that pleases their God.
Perhaps they think their God will bring them bad health and poverty if they go against the wishes they believe that God has.
Maybe they believe they will go to hell if they don't follow the wishes they believe their God has.

All of these things explain why a business owner would want to turn away business.

MichMan

(17,147 posts)
16. The Customer is NOT always right
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 06:21 AM
Jul 2023

I hate that phrase.

Sometimes the customer acts like an entitled flaming asshole and is far more trouble than they are ever worth.

leftyladyfrommo

(20,001 posts)
17. I turn away business. I pet sit. I turn away people.
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 06:31 AM
Jul 2023

Not based on race or religion or politics. I only work for nice people . There are lots of nice people out there.

I would quit if the law forced me to take everyone walking in the door.

Kaleva

(40,363 posts)
23. I've told some customers to go to hell
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 07:22 AM
Jul 2023

They were jerks and weren't worth my time. I didn't lose money since I had other customers I could do work for

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
26. Yep
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 04:56 PM
Jul 2023

I don’t think the OP has ever run a business.

There are plenty of people not worth the money.

Emile

(42,281 posts)
18. Because they use their business as a front for a tax write-off
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 06:34 AM
Jul 2023

and making a profit would only end up costing them?

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
20. being a bigot can and does build some business
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 06:48 AM
Jul 2023

for example
those anti woke razor blades i see all over facebook
may or may not be a shit product but click here to order....wonder if it includes flag band aids.....

my sister in law only eats at chick fila when she travels.....she and her husband actually plan their rest stops around the location map for that chain.....too bad you have to pee...next stop is only 40 minutes away.


if you can harness it bigotry sells

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
21. Ever heard of that famous quote from Lyndon B. Johnson?
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 06:52 AM
Jul 2023

It tells you all you need to know about the Republican mindset.

If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.


Except in this case, substitute LGBT for "colored." The hatred comes from the same place. Their racist and bigoted hatred means more to them than making money -- after all, how many of them happily part ways with their money to support their favorite racist and bigoted Republican?

allegorical oracle

(6,478 posts)
24. The SC decision seemed to be treating web site designing as though it's a preciously artistic
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 07:33 AM
Jul 2023

endeavor deserving special reverence. I personally know a half dozen website designers.

If Smith indeed has a design business, she's just lost a ton of customers. Personally believe her hypothetical lawsuit served only one purpose: to achieve this particular SC ruling.

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