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CTyankee

(68,201 posts)
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:55 AM Nov 2012

David Brooks whimpers "Please don't be a big meanie to us!"

Honestly, the man is a total disgrace to the OpEd page of the NYT, ONCE AGAIN. Cowering in the corner, he writes

"Some on the left are suggesting that he adopt a strategy of confrontation and conquest. The president should use the advantages of victory to crush the spirit of the Republican House majority, they say. Reject the Grand Bargain approach. Instead, take the country over the so-called fiscal cliff. Blame it on the Republicans who are unwilling to even raise taxes on the rich. Wait until they fold, and then you will have your way.

The first thing to say about this strategy is that it is irresponsible. The recovery is fragile. Europe may crater. China is ill. Business is pulling back at the mere anticipation of a fiscal cliff. It’s reckless to think you can manufacture an economic crisis for political leverage and then control the cascading results.

Second, it’s terrible politics. Obama could probably triumph in a short-term confrontation, pushing through higher tax rates on the rich that wouldn’t even produce enough revenue to cover a tenth of the deficit. But he’d sow such bitterness that it would be the last thing he’d pass for the rest of his term. The Republican House majority isn’t going to magically disappear."

Link to full article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/opinion/brooks-obama-the-dealmaker.html?ref=global-home

Hey, David, would you like some cheese with that whine?

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David Brooks whimpers "Please don't be a big meanie to us!" (Original Post) CTyankee Nov 2012 OP
To Republicans, elections only mean something CanonRay Nov 2012 #1
"The recovery is fragile." - So, Obama has managed to create a recovery, eh? IdaBriggs Nov 2012 #2
False assumption by Brooks Doctor_J Nov 2012 #3
Yeah, where was Brooks when the Grand Bargain fell apart because of Republican intransigence? CTyankee Nov 2012 #5
Remember that Brooks is a moderate and beloved by the totebaggers who hang on his every word Fumesucker Nov 2012 #4
Not a moderate bongbong Nov 2012 #11
Of course Brooks is a moderate Fumesucker Nov 2012 #13
Tom Tomorrow always hits it out of the ballpark bongbong Nov 2012 #17
His columns are a waste of ink and paper. I never could understand why The Times hired him. libinnyandia Nov 2012 #6
Rebuttal PETRUS Nov 2012 #7
thanks! that was refreshing! He sounds a lot like Paul Krugman who has been essentially saying the CTyankee Nov 2012 #8
Fuck him and the black horse he rode in on... PCIntern Nov 2012 #9
Fuck your hypocritical ass, Brooks bongbong Nov 2012 #10
What it boils down to is that the media which has served this nation so poorly is peopled at the top Skidmore Nov 2012 #12
Slither back under your rock, Brooks... 99Forever Nov 2012 #14
that it is irresponsible???????? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #15
"higher tax rates on the rich that wouldn’t even produce enough revenue to cover stopbush Nov 2012 #16
Stewart had a piece on this hypocrisy a while ago bongbong Nov 2012 #19
Isn't it amazing that they don't think we are onto this game? CTyankee Nov 2012 #20
Ha ha ha, Gergen. Remember the "Contract with America"? Barack_America Nov 2012 #18

CanonRay

(16,171 posts)
1. To Republicans, elections only mean something
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:58 AM
Nov 2012

when Republicans win. They'd like us to roll over and play dead, "compromising" by doing what they want to do, which is their definition of compromise.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
2. "The recovery is fragile." - So, Obama has managed to create a recovery, eh?
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:59 AM
Nov 2012

Gee, when did that happen? It must have been from all of the "helpful advice and support" the Republican House has provided.

We should totally listen to the people who only notice 'the truth' when it suddenly becomes convenient for them!!!



 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
3. False assumption by Brooks
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:11 AM
Nov 2012
he’d sow such bitterness that it would be the last thing he’d pass for the rest of his term.


Dear David - they hate his guts, and would rather crash the country than let him succeed. For the president to agree/work with them on anything would be pure folly. THAT would be terrible politics.

Shoo.

CTyankee

(68,201 posts)
5. Yeah, where was Brooks when the Grand Bargain fell apart because of Republican intransigence?
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:20 AM
Nov 2012

I don't recall him slapping down the Republicans for not dealing THEN?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
4. Remember that Brooks is a moderate and beloved by the totebaggers who hang on his every word
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:15 AM
Nov 2012
 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
11. Not a moderate
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:47 AM
Nov 2012

He's a repig. And typical of repigs, he lies & tries to cover up that fact by appearing moderate. Has he ever praised progress and Liberalism?

NO!

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
13. Of course Brooks is a moderate
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:56 AM
Nov 2012

He's constantly saying that both sides do it.

That's the very definition of moderate.

Here's how moderates think..

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
17. Tom Tomorrow always hits it out of the ballpark
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:15 AM
Nov 2012

BTW, the reason those wars are greeting with "meh" from the public is that the MSM has been ordered to keep news about wartime dissent to an absolute minimum.

Since those wars are pretty much nothing other than a gigantic (multi-trillion dollar) transfer from Middle Class taxpayers to the rich class, don't look for the trend to stop anytime soon.

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
7. Rebuttal
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:22 AM
Nov 2012

From Dean Baker of the CEPR:

David Brooks Is Worried About Non-Existent Economic Crises

It's so cute to see all the serious people who are so worried about economic crises that do not exist. They are constantly telling us how the "job creators" (a.k.a. rich people) who run businesses are just so nervous and uncertain they don't know what to do. The current concern is that taxes could rise at the end of the year and government spending will fall.

Of course this would be bad news, but would it be a crisis? As many people have pointed out, this is called "deficit reduction," which is exactly what most of the people now complaining about an imminent crisis have been advocating. The tax increases and spending cuts would weaken the economy and, if left in place over the course of the year, would sharply slow growth and likely push the economy into a recession.

But none of this happens in January. In fact, almost nothing happens in January except the Bush tax cuts expire, substantially improving President Obama's bargaining position. This is bad news for Republicans, but so what?

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/david-brooks-is-worried-about-non-existent-economic-crises

More at the link.

CTyankee

(68,201 posts)
8. thanks! that was refreshing! He sounds a lot like Paul Krugman who has been essentially saying the
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:36 AM
Nov 2012

same thing.

Brooks is truly delusional if he doesn't know that we are on to his game and have been for some time.

PCIntern

(28,368 posts)
9. Fuck him and the black horse he rode in on...
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:39 AM
Nov 2012

I'm good and goddamned sick and tired of their "you have to be careful when you win" meme...

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
10. Fuck your hypocritical ass, Brooks
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:45 AM
Nov 2012

Come to think of it, that's my reaction to anything Brooks (or for that matter any repig) writes.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
12. What it boils down to is that the media which has served this nation so poorly is peopled at the top
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:54 AM
Nov 2012

by overpaid gasbags who are trying to protect their large salaries by covering for the wealthy.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
14. Slither back under your rock, Brooks...
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:58 AM
Nov 2012

.. you slimey POS. Take the rest of your ilk with you. We won, you lost, you don't get to dictate terms.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
15. that it is irresponsible????????
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:08 AM
Nov 2012

But it wouldn't have been irresponsible to gut SS and Medicare if a Romney Ryan win had been reality?

No Grand bargain please, and no more whining RW cheerleaders that seem to forget every GOP insult to the American people and Democracy.

stopbush

(24,808 posts)
16. "higher tax rates on the rich that wouldn’t even produce enough revenue to cover
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:10 AM
Nov 2012

a tenth of the deficit."

So, we shouldn't raise taxes on the rich because it won't wipe out the entire deficit? Er, I'd say that wiping out 10% is a great start!

Conservatives throw this phrase out, hoping that people infer their hidden message, "geez, it it would only cover 10%, then why do it at all?"

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
19. Stewart had a piece on this hypocrisy a while ago
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:17 AM
Nov 2012

repig: "Taxes on the rich will only raise a few trillion, nothing worthwhile. But cutting funding Planned Parenthood will save 0.00001% of that, thus that's absolutely necessary!"



(BTW: I call the Daily Show host "Stewart" because he occasionally has some inane False Equivalence story on, plus he allows lying repig scum like Huckabee airtime to flog their books. I'll never call Stephen by his last name

CTyankee

(68,201 posts)
20. Isn't it amazing that they don't think we are onto this game?
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:04 PM
Nov 2012

Chris Hayes stopped Edward Connard in his tracks on last Sunday's show about this argument. Basically, it doesn't make any sense NOT to do it. The RWers can't get it thru their thick skulls...

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
18. Ha ha ha, Gergen. Remember the "Contract with America"?
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:17 AM
Nov 2012

Yeah. Welcome to the flip-side.

Nasty politics always originate on your side of the aisle.

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