DOJ needs to open a criminal investigation on fraudulent court filings in the website case

[bronxiteforever]

Included in filings for the 303 Creative case is an alleged request that came from a man seeking help with a gay wedding website. But as The New Republic reported on Thursday, the man identified in the request says he never filed it.

The New Republic cites court filings from Smith showing that a man named Stewart contacted her in September 2016 about his wedding to Mike, which he said was taking place “early next year.” He added that the couple “would love some design work done for our invites, placenames etc. We might also stretch to a website.”

But this week — when The New Republic got ahold of the Stewart whose name, email address, and cell phone number were included on that "same-sex marriage request" — the man told the outlet he did not send the form, and that he was married to a woman at the time it was allegedly sent.

“If somebody’s pulled my information, as some kind of supporting information or documentation, somebody’s falsified that,” Stewart told the outlet. “I’m married, I have a child — I’m not really sure where that came from? But somebody’s using false information in a Supreme Court filing document."

https://people.com/hypothetical-lgbtq-discrimination-case-preceding-landmark-scotus-decision-7555878


The allegations are that the case was built on fraudulent fillings and therefore a federal Grand Jury Investigation should commence. If there were fraudulent documents entered into evidence to establish the Court’s jurisdiction, charges would be warranted and if a lawyer was complicit, disbarment should follow along with jail for fraud in the court charges.

These allegations go directly to the Court’s integrity and impartiality.
If the case was constructed on fraud, it seems to me to be worthless as precedent.
Leave it to the GOP to create novel ways to corrupt any of the institutions developed to provide fair and clean justice.

[Marius25]

1. DoJ needs to open an investigation into the Justices

We know they failed to investigate Kavanaugh.

[2naSalit]

2. The reporter...

From the Republic was on MSNBC last night talking about this, might have been Chris Hayes.

Totally agree that this needs scrutiny.

[bronxiteforever]

3. Thanks 2naSalit! I didn't watch last night

I am glad Chris is on it. I

[2naSalit]

8. Every show was all about it...

And not much else. Glad they covered different aspects but it was more than I could take after an hour or so.

[bronxiteforever]

10. Ha! That is why I didn't watch anything after POTUS

spoke at 4. Too burned out from GOP corruption.

[groundloop]

23. That's been my gripe about MSNBC for quite some time..... too much coverage of a single issue.

All the time they go into nauseating detail about one single issue, look at it from 8 different angles, and after awhile I've just had enough. Why can't they break things up with some general interest news shows?

[aggiesal]

28. He was on Alex Wagner's Show with ...

Ayman Mohyeldin substituting for Alex and performing the interview.

[multigraincracker]

4. Can the SC do a whoops

we screwed up?

[Wounded Bear]

5. Good luck with that...MAGA code does not allow admitting mistakes...nt

[bullimiami]

7. Not just the sc. every court every opposition lawyer. this is some real shit.

[FBaggins]

11. They can - but they won't

Because it isn’t their job to verify the facts of the case (even if this example were the basis of the case - which it wasn’t)

Appellate courts accept the trial record of the court below them. SCOTUS reviews the law and the constitution… they don’t evaluate the facts certified by the lower court.

Nor would it be the lower court’s job. It’s opposing counsel who should have pointed out the error/falsehood. Particularly at the trial court level where they originally argued that the case should be tossed because she had yet to receive a request from a gay couple.

[groundloop]

25. I get your point..... but damn it's tough keeping up with GQP lies.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is pulling up it's pants."

[bucolic_frolic]

6. That is a great idea. Fraud is deceit is lies is unacceptable.

How can we have rulings that are based on fraud??

[FBaggins]

12. How does it go anywhere?

It wasn’t the basis of the ruling - so it wouldn’t change anything. And while I assume that she entered the request herself to strengthen her case… I can’t imagine how that could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt several years later.

(And until that proof surfaced - it would look like a retaliatory prosecution)

[moniss]

9. It looks as though

neither the plaintiff or her lawyers have commented. It would seem to me that the ones who were worried about being compelled to "speak" falsely compelled someone to be included as the basis for the case. Seems to me to violate his right to free association.

[RainCaster]

13. IMHO, SCOTUS knew it was a fraud

But they wanted to rule anyhow. Settled case law, don't you know.

[LoisB]

20. I agree.

[uponit7771]

27. +1,

[onenote]

29. Except it wasn't a relevant factor in the decision.

The "email" was received after the original complaint was filed and the issue of standing ultimately was resolved without reference to the email.

[Marthe48]

14. The woman's attorneys were Alliance Defending Freedom

looks like they used lies, malfeasance, fraud and crooked judges to force this case through. The rw way.

[MagickMuffin]

15. The Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society are drawing up new complaints

Worked this time, it’ll work again.


Just make up false complaints and get it before the Supreme Court which these orgs are responsible for getting those justices on the court to begin with.

The court owes these orgs and the orgs own the court.


Round and round and round we go!

[Delmette2.0]

24. First start with the original complaints on abortion rights and move forward from

forward from there.

It must take a lot of planning and bribs to arraign lawyers to defend and prosecute this through several levels of the courts.

[bucolic_frolic]

16. Ruling on bogus lawsuits is legislating from the Bench

How is a bogus lawsuit even case law?

[MOMFUDSKI]

17. They played the game they dreamt up

and got caught. They just THOUGHT they were smarter than we the people. Their lives must be made as uncomfortable as we can muster.

[mn9driver]

18. The only thing that will come of this

Is that the defendants in these sorts of cases will now spend time and money to be sure the complaint isn’t just bullshit, which this one apparently was. The state of Colorado could have done this, but for some reason did not.

For this specific case, the individual named as half of the fictitious “gay couple” might be able to sue if they can show some harm from being falsely named. I’m not sure what that would be, but maybe?

I’m not a lawyer, but that’s the way it looks to me.

[LiberalFighter]

22. Too bad the justices don't get sued for not doing their job and

possibly they were part of the plot?

[bronxiteforever]

26. I would think Identity theft would be in play n.t.

[Quanto Magnus]

19. These allegations go directly to the Court's integrity and impartiality.

SCOTUS has already shown they have no integrity or impartiality, why would this be any different?

[LiberalFighter]

21. She was not even doing website designing.

[madville]

30. So in the lower courts and appeals

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They never once contacted this person or called them in to testify?

Edit: I did some reading and now understand this person wasn’t even a part of the case, it was just a communication included in documents and didn’t have any real bearing on the case.