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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,673 posts)
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 08:32 PM Jul 2023

Log Cabin Republicans Tear Apart Ron DeSantis For 'Homophobic,' 'Desperate' Anti-LGBTQ Ad

A conservative LGBT group took aim at Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Friday, arguing that a wild ad about his efforts to pass anti-LGBTQ legislation “ventured into homophobic territory.”

Log Cabin Republicans, which calls itself the country’s largest organization “representing LGBT conservatives and straight allies,” spoke out against a video shared by “DeSantis War Room,” a Twitter account describing itself as the 2024 hopeful’s rapid response team. The clip surveyed DeSantis’ support for laws targeting LGBTQ+ people in Florida.

“Today’s message from the DeSantis campaign War Room is divisive and desperate. Republicans and other commonsense conservatives know Ron Desantis has alienated swing-state and younger voters,” Log Cabin Republicans tweeted.

“Conservatives understand that we need to protect our kids, preserve women’s sports, safeguard women’s spaces and strengthen parental rights, but Ron DeSantis’ extreme rhetoric goes has just ventured into homophobic territory.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-group-tears-apart-ron-071323538.html

Can't see how any gay person can be a Republican.

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Log Cabin Republicans Tear Apart Ron DeSantis For 'Homophobic,' 'Desperate' Anti-LGBTQ Ad (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2023 OP
For me, it's been so hard to understand them sakabatou Jul 2023 #1
Just like "chickens for Colonel Sanders". Funtatlaguy Jul 2023 #2
As a gay man, let me enlighten you moose65 Jul 2023 #3
"I don't really understand it either" -- I'll take a shot at an explanation. Earth-shine Jul 2023 #6
Maybe moose65 Jul 2023 #11
I have a gay neighbor/friend 2 doors down, and we had an hour long argument a few weeks ago Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #15
Gay people can be jerks, just like anybody else. yardwork Jul 2023 #20
I wasn't clear. I meant elevate themselves spiritually, not financially as such. Earth-shine Jul 2023 #18
One thing I notice among these right wing gay men is they tend to be very anti feminist JI7 Jul 2023 #16
Right wing men tend to be misogynists. yardwork Jul 2023 #21
Ironic that Trump's SCOTUS picks are inflicting the most damage Zambero Jul 2023 #4
Let's see, how does it go.. Permanut Jul 2023 #5
"Can't see how any gay person can be a Republican." keithbvadu2 Jul 2023 #7
I Was One NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #8
worthy of its own thread Skittles Jul 2023 #9
Thank You NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #13
That's a great story moose65 Jul 2023 #12
Thank You NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #14
It's a shame that the Supreme Court appointed W president in 2000. yardwork Jul 2023 #22
Agreed NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #23
how they can be republicans is beyond belief spanone Jul 2023 #10
He's your inevitable future, Log Cabiners. Might as well embrace it. SCOTUS has just started. TheBlackAdder Jul 2023 #17
Log Cabin repubs area51 Jul 2023 #19
"Can't see how any gay person can be a Republican." WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2023 #24

sakabatou

(46,140 posts)
1. For me, it's been so hard to understand them
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 08:35 PM
Jul 2023

"We want to change the GOP from the inside."

Have these people not been paying attention? The GOP has gotten worse

moose65

(3,454 posts)
3. As a gay man, let me enlighten you
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 08:48 PM
Jul 2023

There are rich gay people who are just as big of an asshole as any MAGAt. Trust me, I know some!

And there is quite a bit of anti-trans sentiment among the gay community, sad to say. Mainly gay men ( the group I’m most familiar with) who still make anti-trans jokes. I don’t really understand it either, but it certainly exists.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
6. "I don't really understand it either" -- I'll take a shot at an explanation.
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 09:14 PM
Jul 2023

People who can't elevate themselves put others down to make themselves feel better about being miserable in their own skins.

As a species, we prey on our own. We hurt those already hurting.

moose65

(3,454 posts)
11. Maybe
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 10:32 PM
Jul 2023

The gay Republican men that I know are all quite well-to-do and they have no children. They are also all white, so that plays a part too - white male privilege isn’t limited to the straights! There’s also a fair amount of misogyny and hatred for racial minorities.

The idea that Republican policies might hurt THEM seems completely alien to them.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
15. I have a gay neighbor/friend 2 doors down, and we had an hour long argument a few weeks ago
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 10:54 PM
Jul 2023

About whether trans kids should be banned from taking puberty blockers and opposite gender hormones before they turn 18.

And I was the one on the side of being 'against the bans'.

And this is a guy who's Latino, and generally liberal, and hates Trump. And while does pretty well for himself, he's not rich.

He hopes to marry a man someday (preferably soon as he's coming up on 40), but doesn't consider himself 'part of the LGTBQ+ community', has no desire to fight for 'the cause', just wants to reap the benefits of other people's work in this arena.

Being gay doesn't make a person truly liberal, and especially not pro-trans rights. Sadly it seems to me that the LGTBQ 'community' are in many cases ... not necessarily 'in it together'.

And I know for a fact there's plenty of LG people who look down on the B's.

yardwork

(69,358 posts)
20. Gay people can be jerks, just like anybody else.
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 09:19 AM
Jul 2023

It's a "community" only in the sense of being thrown together due to oppression.

As a lesbian, I don't find that being LGBTQ makes a person a better advocate for civil rights, including gay rights, than being a straight advocate. Advocates are advocates, and true advocates believe in civil rights for all.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
18. I wasn't clear. I meant elevate themselves spiritually, not financially as such.
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 11:54 PM
Jul 2023

I dare say that these gay Repubs you speak of have their share of self-loathing.

The desire to mask one's own low self-esteem is a primary driver of hatred and cruelty toward others.

So very sad.

JI7

(93,605 posts)
16. One thing I notice among these right wing gay men is they tend to be very anti feminist
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 11:01 PM
Jul 2023

yardwork

(69,358 posts)
21. Right wing men tend to be misogynists.
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 09:23 AM
Jul 2023

Adding "gay" wouldn't change that equation at all.

I'm not at all surprised by the existence of Log Cabin Republicans. If the Republican Party would stop attacking gay people's rights, lots of LGBTQ people would vote Republican. Probably about the same proportion as among straight people.

Zambero

(9,987 posts)
4. Ironic that Trump's SCOTUS picks are inflicting the most damage
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 08:54 PM
Jul 2023

The Log Cabin folks see themselves as being exempt from right-wing persecution. And at the same time they would selectively throw many in The LGBTQ community to the wolves. Little do they know that if the MAGA-DeSantis complex gets its way, they will be trapped inside while said cabin gets burned to the ground.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
7. "Can't see how any gay person can be a Republican."
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 10:06 PM
Jul 2023

Delusional.

Like the republicans really liked Herschel Walker.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
8. I Was One
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 10:07 PM
Jul 2023

I was a Republicsn for many years (hell decades) while in the closet. In my case, I was single. I worked a lot of hours, paying a lot of taxes because I had no kids and no deductions.

Even after I started voting for Democrats in some races, I was still very fiscally conservative. One reason I liked President Clinton so much is he worked with Congress and we had a surplus. I'd do my taxes every year and see the $10k and more I paid each year just for federal income tax, and how my take home was so low because I was saving for retirement, and it pissed me off. I bought into a lot of the propaganda of "welfare queens" of the time.

It took a while and some educating myself to figure it out. Bush 2 was a breaking point for me. Seeing him squander a budget surplus with giant tax cuts that mostly went to the rich made me aware of just how full of BS the "party of fiscal conservatives" was.

Because I was so in the closet, and easily pass for straight, the social stuff didn't play a huge part. I was more focused on career and money and didn't have a social life. As I got older though and especially after I started vacationing in Palm Springs years ago I saw what I was missing. After retiring and moving here I've gotten married and am happily "out". I really regret most of my Republican votes of years ago.

yardwork

(69,358 posts)
22. It's a shame that the Supreme Court appointed W president in 2000.
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 09:26 AM
Jul 2023

If Al Gore had been president, that surplus would have been protected, along with the Earth.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
23. Agreed
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 10:05 AM
Jul 2023

Agreed. I've never understood that decision. Basically 500 or so votes ended up being all that matters.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
17. He's your inevitable future, Log Cabiners. Might as well embrace it. SCOTUS has just started.
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 11:15 PM
Jul 2023

.

I get the feeling that a few of the justices will be retiring in the next few years, and as it is looking like Dems are strong, they are going for their last conservative hurrah and trying to ram through as many key cases as possible.

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WhiskeyGrinder

(26,952 posts)
24. "Can't see how any gay person can be a Republican."
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 10:16 AM
Jul 2023

One hallmark of oppressive systems is they perpetuate a lie that if the oppressed would just be the "right kind" of Black person, gay person, woman, etc., then they might be able to avoid oppression. A lot of people fall for it.

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