and so it starts.. backlash to SCOTUS ruling allowing discrimination against lgbt

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

[Maine Abu El Banat]

1. .

[onetexan]

37. Ditto!!

[MichMan]

2. This was always permitted

Has nothing to do with the recent ruling.

[Beachnutt]

3. I think you're right,

I have seen signs at businesses for years that say "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" .

[Phoenix61]

4. It's always been permitted to refuse to serve an individual

not an entire class of people.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

5. Unless that entire class of people

Are a protected class, you can absolutely refuse to serve them.

[MichMan]

6. Incorrect

Does not have to be individually

A business for example, can refuse to serve people with things like shaved heads, cargo shorts, flip flop shoes, black cars, lip piercing, poodles, and a million other characteristics

[Phoenix61]

10. Dress codes are applied equally to everyone.

Not to a class of people.

[NowISeetheLight]

18. The Difference

A business for example, can refuse to serve people with things like shaved heads, cargo shorts, flip flop shoes, black cars, lip piercing, poodles, and a million other characteristics

All these things are choices. Sexual orientation isn't any more of a choice than race is. I know in the 70s growing up Catholic and realizing in Jr High that I was attracted to Brandon instead of Bonnie was scary. I'd have changed in a minute if I could've.

Discrimination for Who people are is the problem. Being gay isn't a choice.

[MichMan]

21. The OP was saying the SC ruling now makes not serving Trump supporters permissible

Me and many others have correctly said that they were always free to do so, regardless of this decision.

So the entire premise of the OP is categorically not true. In an attempt to be clever, they showed their lack of knowledge.

[soldierant]

26. The point is that

if those who want to discrimiate against people on the basis of natural differences, no one who might decide to adopt the OP policy would have botheres.

[markodochartaigh]

39. I think that you missed the point.

I don't think that op was saying that the ruling makes not serving Trump supporters legally permissible. I think that the op was saying that not serving Trump supporters, which was always permissible, is now morally imperative.

[MichMan]

43. Perhaps

I've just seen several posts all stating "Now that the SC riuled on the wedding website, we are now allowed to do this" when whatever they suggest doing could have been done regardless. Thought this was in that same frame of mind

[Diraven]

27. But religion is a choice

Technically. Although most people are forcibly taught it by their parents when they are children who have no choice.

[AZ8theist]

45. Exactly. The ultimate "grooming"

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

7. K&R nt

[The Jungle 1]

8. So are we done with Title VII

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII) prohibits federal agencies from discriminating against employees or applicants for employment because of their religious beliefs in hiring, firing and other terms and conditions of employment. Additionally, Title VII requires federal agencies to reasonably accommodate the religious beliefs or practices of employees or applicants unless doing so would impose an undue hardship upon the agency.

It used to be race color or creed.
I think you can say no service to repukes they are not a protected class.

[GB_RN]

12. Correct.

Political beliefs do not constitute a “protected class” under the Civil Rights Act itself or, any interpretation or court ruling thereof.

[NowISeetheLight]

19. Protected Class

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A protected class should be defined as any group that is the way they are as part of nature. Because discriminating against them is discriminating against people for who they are, not actions (eg: choices made)

[soldierant]

28. The one voluntary protected class is religion - "creed."

Those claiming the authrity of their religion in order to discriminate on natural grounds will scream that their religion is being discrimiated against But since their religion is hateful....

[James48]

15. That applies to federal agencies.

Not to private businesses.

[The Jungle 1]

36. I do not believe your interpretation is correct

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 | U.S. Equal ...
Title VII prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex and national origin.

applies to private-sector employers with 15 or more employees, to state and local government employers with 15 or more employees, and to the federal …

Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (.gov)

[DarthDem]

49. Title VII very much applies to private businesses . . . .

. . . it wouldn't have much teeth if it didn't. You may be thinking of the state action requirement re: freedom of speech and some other rights.

[wnylib]

22. A clash of religious beliefs. There are churches

that support LBGTQ+.

And there are people who discriminate against LBGTQ+ people on the basis of religious belief.

So now it looks like they don't do business with each other. Freedom of expression and of religion.

Or some can just refuse to do business with MAGAs and anti LBGTQ+ on the basis of not wanting to. Freedom of expression.

How far can this go? Will Christian grocery businesses refuse to carry bagels or kosher hot dogs? Will Jewish restaurants refuse to hire or serve Christians, Muslims, etc.? Will non Christians refuse to shop at stores that play Christmas music in December?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

41. So

Christian grocery stores can refuse to carry bagels and kosher hot dogs.

No business can refuse to serve someone based purely on their religion.

Non Christians can already refuse to shop in stores that play Christmas music in December.

[wnylib]

42. Of course those things are already possible.

My point is that, with the most recent legalization of discrimination, there is more awareness of divisions, and expressions of them can become more popular.

[bucolic_frolic]

9. meet intolerance with intolerance

it's one of the only tools available

[calimary]

11. Taste of their own medicine. See how they like it.

[Model35mech]

13. In the words of the Mahatma...

An eye for an eye until everyone is blind.

I understand the sentiment, but the statement here also represents a coarsening of America.

[NH Ethylene]

16. +1

[wnylib]

23. Or an expansion of divisions and polarization in society.

[Model35mech]

24. Yes

[Paladin]

31. Gods blessings upon the Mahatma...

...but I am sick to death of all the years we've been fighting the fascist overtake of our nation with wimpy, candy-assed, overwhelmingly ineffective responses. This past week's actions by the Supreme Court bring into sharp focus the fact that we are about to lose our country forever. If we have to add to the "coarsening" of America in order to save it, then let's do it, without apology...

[TheBlackAdder]

33. The last one standing will have still one eye, therefore in the land of the blind they will be king.

.

It's best to sharpen a stick and get the first jabs in.

.

[edisdead]

46. Wws it coarsening to kill Nazis?

Because I believe in killing nazis if necessary.

I will be coarse as fuck if necessary.

[hadEnuf]

48. Depends on who is feeling the coarseness.

Our side has been getting the sandpaper for years and it's good to see someone fighting back.

[Bluethroughu]

14. I can't wait to shop at this store.

I bet it will be a peaceful experience.

[Scottie Mom]

17. I refuse to do legal work work for RWNJs and anyone who actually listens to and believes Fux Snooze.

There is NO use in trying to explain reality, the law, and how facts apply to these assholes. I have been turning RWNJs away for a very long time. They want it -- nay, DEMAND it, THEIR way no matter what the facts and applicable law may be...and the assholes never pay their atty fees and costs!

Fuck 'em.

[Duppers]

25. Good for you!!

Yay!

[Ferrets are Cool]

20. I have to drive 60 miles one way to find a cpa that is not a repug. It's a price that I

am willing to pay.

[Snooper9]

38. I have a great one in Carrollton TX

longer drive

[Snackshack]

29. It is about time.

If the gop wants to conduct itself like a bunch of inbred monosyllabic simpletons whatever…it’s about time they get a taste of their own medicine.

Enough with the supine negotiations and kid gloves.

The gop sat silent and allowed over 1 million + Americans to die while their leader lied every afternoon from a podium. How there is still a gop party I do not understand. It should have been tried by garland under a RICO charge and dissolved.

But that would upset people and Dems seem to go way out of their way to accomplish not doing this instead of taking out the garbage.

[republianmushroom]

30. I like it

[LetMyPeopleVote]

32. K&R

[Cha]

34. Yeah, Fuck Off to the Fasist Bigoted ASS

Greed Court.. nothing "supreme about it.

[Trueblue1968]

35. A war against citizens, it is the Supreme Courts fault for allowing discrimination to flourish.

A war against citizens, it is the Supreme Courts fault for allowing discrimination to flourish.
THANKS to the 6 who allowed HATE to run rampant.
Remember the saying :: "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" . Now it will go in earnest.
~~> The SC ruling now makes NOT serving Trump supporters permissible.

[markodochartaigh]

40. Hate causes chaos, chaos causes division.

A divided people are more easily controlled by oiligarchs than a people united against the oiligarchs. Religion, the law, whatever, are merely tools for the reich-wing justices. They care nothing for their tools other than how they can use them to increase the power of the oiligarchs whom they serve.

[calimary]

44. Dear God, PLEASE let there be a backlash!

And please make it a BIG one!

[tclambert]

47. You also have the right to refuse service to Supreme Court Justices