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FakeNoose

(41,622 posts)
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 08:21 PM Jul 2023

9 toxic phrases people use when they're trying to gaslight you - and how to respond

CNBC link: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/03/harvard-psychologist-toxic-phrases-people-use-when-they-are-gaslighting-you-how-to-respond.html

By Dr. Cortney Warren, Contributor @DRCORTNEYWARREN

“Gaslighting,” or the experience of being manipulated into doubting your feelings and perceptions of reality, can happen to anyone. This behavior is often used to gain power and control in relationships. Being on the receiving end of it can be damaging to your self-esteem, and can even lead to anxiety or depression.

As a Harvard-trained psychologist who specializes in trauma and relationships, I’ve observed this firsthand. Here are nine toxic phrases people use when they’re gaslighting you — and the perfect responses to shut them down:

1. ‘You’re being crazy.’
Gaslighters will try to make you question your sanity. Making direct comments that undermine your perspective or rationality is a common tactic. How to respond:
* “Please don’t question my ability to think clearly.”
* “Even if we don’t agree, this is what the reality looks like to me.”


- more at link -

Good stuff, and useful when talking with MAGAts.





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9 toxic phrases people use when they're trying to gaslight you - and how to respond (Original Post) FakeNoose Jul 2023 OP
Slobby calls everyone who is investigating him delusional malaise Jul 2023 #1
Point at them The Wizard Jul 2023 #2
If only the media would do that FakeNoose Jul 2023 #4
This is good stuff for everyone. Thanks much. Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #3
That article is nonsense synni Jul 2023 #5
I'm with you. If someone plays that game, walk away and don't come back. Midnight Writer Jul 2023 #8
What if it's your own child, or another family member? FakeNoose Jul 2023 #13
Walk away GenThePerservering Jul 2023 #17
Good advice. Duppers Jul 2023 #14
Agreed. Generic Brad Jul 2023 #16
How about: "I'm just asking questions" ??? DinahMoeHum Jul 2023 #6
My response is, "why change the subject when you haven't answered the last question yet?" FakeNoose Jul 2023 #7
What do you say when the person you're talking to IS being crazy? Silent3 Jul 2023 #9
I hear you friend, but there aren't many crazies on DU, at least not yet FakeNoose Jul 2023 #12
I doubt it, because they won't GenThePerservering Jul 2023 #18
"fuck you"and walk away works. niyad Jul 2023 #10
+1000 frogmarch Jul 2023 #11
This is the way GenThePerservering Jul 2023 #19
Number 6! calimary Jul 2023 #15
I can say all of them about my mom. She has always and always will use them--because she's my mother debm55 Jul 2023 #22
This is useful information not just for gaslighting but for other manipulative or difficult people liberalla Jul 2023 #20
K&R CountAllVotes Jul 2023 #21

malaise

(296,076 posts)
1. Slobby calls everyone who is investigating him delusional
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 08:30 PM
Jul 2023

or crazy. It's not just gaslighting - it's projection. He is stark raving mad.

The Wizard

(13,735 posts)
2. Point at them
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 08:34 PM
Jul 2023

and laugh. Ridicule is a wonderful tool when dealing with liars. That and lying to them. Liars depend on others to be honest.

synni

(777 posts)
5. That article is nonsense
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 09:09 PM
Jul 2023

First, you never say "please" to an abuser. Second, the only way to deal with gaslighting is to say, "Goodbye," and mean it.

Midnight Writer

(25,404 posts)
8. I'm with you. If someone plays that game, walk away and don't come back.
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 09:17 PM
Jul 2023

They are showing you who they are, and they will never change. Just get away from them.

FakeNoose

(41,622 posts)
13. What if it's your own child, or another family member?
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 09:51 PM
Jul 2023

What if it's someone who is known to be volatile?

There are different ways to handling a touchy situation.

GenThePerservering

(3,367 posts)
17. Walk away
Tue Jul 4, 2023, 01:29 AM
Jul 2023

it won't kill them. Every time they start the BS again, walk away. Or just stand there and silently look at them. It's called non-response.

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
16. Agreed.
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 10:54 PM
Jul 2023

There’s very little you can say to a narcissistic abuser, especially if they have some perceived power in the relationship, that they won’t turn around on you. It all looks good in an article until you have the misfortune of having a parent or boss who doesn’t play by the rules.

Anyone think these phrases would work on Trump?

FakeNoose

(41,622 posts)
7. My response is, "why change the subject when you haven't answered the last question yet?"
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 09:16 PM
Jul 2023

It's another form of deflection, and it's classic gaslighting.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
9. What do you say when the person you're talking to IS being crazy?
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 09:22 PM
Jul 2023

I suppose there are usually more diplomatic approaches than accusing someone of being crazy, even when it's true. Then again, there's simply giving up trying to deal with some people, if and when you can escape a such situation.

My big problem with this advice is that crazy people will read it and it will give them more tools in their toolkit for blocking out reality. Some of this stuff is pretty toxic all the time (like #5, "If you loved me, you’d let me do what I want." ), but sometimes a person you're talking to is overreacting, is at fault for a problem, or doesn't understand what the real problem is.

Fortunately for me the occasions I have to deal with people like that are few and far between.

FakeNoose

(41,622 posts)
12. I hear you friend, but there aren't many crazies on DU, at least not yet
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 09:48 PM
Jul 2023

We are most of us sane, ... or we have the rap down well enough to appear that way.

debm55

(60,568 posts)
22. I can say all of them about my mom. She has always and always will use them--because she's my mother
Fri Jul 7, 2023, 04:26 PM
Jul 2023

liberalla

(11,088 posts)
20. This is useful information not just for gaslighting but for other manipulative or difficult people
Tue Jul 4, 2023, 12:25 PM
Jul 2023
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