Hillary Clinton @HillaryClinton: I still feel strongly that the Supreme Court

[BeckyDem]

I still feel strongly that the Supreme Court needs to stand on the side of the American people, not on the side of corporations and the wealthy.

Link to tweet

America Has a Supreme Court Problem
Hillary Clinton tried warning us. Now, what do you do with a rogue Court?
BY MOLLY JONG-FAST

JULY 5, 2023
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/07/supreme-court-legitimacy-crisis

[AnnaLee]

1. It is a problem

If my young relatives are any measure, the anger at the older generation is close to boiling over. My nephew, a liberal, declared that there was no difference between Trump and Biden. I challenged him and he mumbled something about campaign promises and continuing to do things the old way. I feel sure, given the choice, he would vote Biden but I fear many of his generation might just lose interest and not vote. That could be a disaster.

Somehow, he seemed immature for a 30-year-old but I'm sure what mature really is now days.

[BeckyDem]

2. It is concerning. What I found the most disturbing about 2016 was the electoral college

issue, which has no legitimacy imho and has corrupted democracy in America.

This issue has been long overlooked and not addressed with vigor. Hillary Clinton won the majority vote and not by a tiny measure, she won in any functioning democracy.

Our young people, and I'm old, should believe that with political will, and a good fight, we can change the political landscape. But it can be hard to believe in a system when Citizen United is a huge culprit too. Biden has a lot of obstacles, two are named Sinema and Manchin.

I believe they are mostly responsible for his poll numbers.

[DeeDeeNY]

10. You are exactly right on every point

[BeckyDem]

11. Thank you, DeeDeeNY.

[stopdiggin]

3. the 'young' have been fed disaffection

and alienation (from every conceivable side and source, left, right, entertainment, educational, media, parents and on ..) for their entire lives ...

How can we possibly expect optimism - or any real degree of faith and support - in a 'system' they have been so thoroughly poisoned against?

When was the last time you watched a movie where the 'government' (and/or authority) wasn't some sort of deep state cabal .. ?

[progressoid]

17. Let's see it from their point of view.

The system is broken. They are inheriting a planet and a socioeconomic system that is spiraling out of control. And they see little chance of it getting any better. It is hard to disagree with that sentiment. Thinking about what my children will have to live with is distressing at best.

We (old people) are going to die soon. They are the ones that going to have to deal with this mess.

[stopdiggin]

22. don't really disagree

But (and it's a huge but) - do you see any better alternatives for dealing with the pressing issues of today .. than democracy and voting? Surely an old progressive isn't leaning toward authoritarian solutions?

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[ExWhoDoesntCare]

21. Cop movies invariable show

People doing good government work, often without a deep state cabal involved.

Just from 2022:

Decision to Leave
The Batman
See How They Run

[stopdiggin]

23. and plenty of 'dirty cops' in any

fictionalized piece as well. So many in fact that its almost trope.

But I give you due credit for actually bringing forward real examples, and real detail for your argument. Points for that.

[Rebl2]

5. I sometimes

think younger and some older people think the president has all the power, but I think Congress has much more than the president. Some campaign promises just don’t get done because of the congress that the president has been dealt.

[inthewind21]

7. No need to THINK

it. It IS. Period. Anyone thinking that the POTUS can deliver on every single promise with a republican majority in the house and a barely majority in the senate is a fool. And anyone who doesn't vote for the DEM, any DEM, as if their life depended on it will get more of the same. It absolutely boggles the mind how people can complain about republicans while in the same breath whine about what Biden is not doing for them and how they have lost faith in the "old guard". I guess another republican president would be just dandy huh?

[Rebl2]

20. 👆👆👆!

[LisaM]

12. If they lose interest and don't vote, they are the problem.

They can't keep blaming previous generations, and 30 is not all that young.

[Blue Owl]

4. Thanks HRC!

[RANDYWILDMAN]

6. We missed out on HRC

She would have been great !


I wanna quit blaming voters, she had way more votes then TFG it was simply that the culture, was not ready for her and all the baggage that came with the certain news networks basically had a 20 year mis-information war against her and her family.

[inthewind21]

8. Oh no

Couldn't have possibly been voters. It was black magic!

[SharonAnn]

14. And we missed out on Al Gore. The 2000 election was actually cheating. FL went for Gore

Granted, it was a small margin (less than 1,000 I think) but shutting down the recount vote in Miami (by the Brooks Brothers rioters, nearly all of whom were staffers of R Congressman and affiliated PACs) meant that GWB could get away with stealing the election.

The study of actual FL votes was done by a consortium of news organizations. Gore won. It was finalized and due to be published on Sept. 12th, 2001 but obviously was not published until some time later. We were still living through the 9-11 trauma for quite a while and it didn't get nearly the attention it should have. Most people I talk to about this don't know it was done and don't know what the conclusion was.

It's a shame.

[Initech]

18. It was all part of the MAGA Taliban's plan to steal SCOTUS.

And the fucking assholes got what they wanted when Fuckhead 45 stole the election. They got their prize - the overturning of Roe V Wade. May they all pay dearly for it and may they all rot in the fieriest pit of hell.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

19. Gore got screwed and so did democracy

and we got Roberts and Kav and Barrett who all worked on that lawsuit as well, payback was a path to a seat on that court

A 5/4 decision against humanity

I wish we had a functioning and engaged internet when Gore(won) but the Supreme court picked the winner.


Rehnquist rot in hell !

[Permanut]

24. Interesting that the consortium was so thorough..

They concluded that under any conditions - hanging chads no chads, discarded chads - Gore still won.

[llashram]

9. never happen

in the near future at last. Proven compromised advocates sitting on the Supreme Court support the wealthy and not the law. And this fact until they retire or die. And as long as the Republicon Party has trump as its flag bearer ain't going to change...

[Initech]

13. The current SCOTUS sides with the religious reich. And that's who they need to stop siding with.

The Fox News MAGA Taliban can go fuck themselves to the highest of hells.

[SharonAnn]

15. They really side with the rich and the fanatical religious.

In some cases, like mega-churches and Opus Dei, they're one and the same.

[betsuni]

16. What was the big problem with Hillary? What was all that about her being corrupt and corporatist

and Wall Street Wall Street Goldman Sachs? Who were the ones throwing dollar bills and calling her "corporate *****" when she went to a fundraiser at George Clooney's house?

"The overarching quest of her public life has always been how to help every man, woman, and child reach their full potential. That purpose drove every policy rollout, every bill in the Senate, every speech she delivered, every town and country she visited, every book she wrote. Her focus was always how to give each child the opportunity to grow and flourish, every parent the tools to raise healthy, educated children, every person the right to live in dignity, every worker the protections and rights to succeed and thrive."
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