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Pic Of The Moment: Time To Break Out Those Biden Stickers Again (Original Post) EarlG Jul 2023 OP
Owning the cons! nt TeamProg Jul 2023 #1
Another good job report Alpeduez21 Jul 2023 #2
Companies don't want people to options and jobs they want us at each other's throat for their scraps Fullduplexxx Jul 2023 #17
There is a causal relationship in this case -- progree Jul 2023 #19
GREAT JOBS REPORT...K AND R Stuart G Jul 2023 #3
Bideneconomics work LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #4
Trickle-down was as big a scam as Stalinism. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2023 #7
And PREACH IT, Dammit!!!!! calimary Jul 2023 #5
K&R uponit7771 Jul 2023 #6
Strong labor mkt increases the likelihood of the FED continuing NoMoreRepugs Jul 2023 #8
But what about the poor billionaires? - the GOP Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2023 #9
They can go for a sub ride to see the Titanic IronLionZion Jul 2023 #11
Or in Elon's case, burning upon re-entry. Crowman2009 Jul 2023 #13
Free rides for conservative SC justices IronLionZion Jul 2023 #14
Let's Go Brandon! IronLionZion Jul 2023 #10
TY.. KICK for PRes Biden! Cha Jul 2023 #12
Time for Dems to buy time on TV. BigmanPigman Jul 2023 #15
Jobs chart (not recent), shows Trump negative job growth. keithbvadu2 Jul 2023 #16
What's considered the official jobs report comes out in 3 hours, 830 AM ET progree Jul 2023 #18
JOBS increase just 209.000 James48 Jul 2023 #20
Yup. Actually I'm kinda glad that it's not a blockbuster. Maybe the Fed will skip the July progree Jul 2023 #21

Alpeduez21

(2,054 posts)
2. Another good job report
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 11:34 AM
Jul 2023

another bad day at the stock market. I'm not saying it's a causal relationship but there sure does seem to be a correlation of some type between good jobs reports and shitty stock markets.

Fullduplexxx

(8,626 posts)
17. Companies don't want people to options and jobs they want us at each other's throat for their scraps
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 09:47 PM
Jul 2023


progree

(12,977 posts)
19. There is a causal relationship in this case --
Fri Jul 7, 2023, 06:06 AM
Jul 2023
Another good job report another bad day at the stock market


according to media and pundits. It solidifies predictions that the Fed will raise interest rates again, and the stock market never likes interest rate increases. Core inflation has been stuck for several months at more than 2 X the Fed's target -- see the blue bar charts for core inflation --

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143095224#post3

Although the more official and comprehensive jobs report comes out in 2 1/2 hours -- the Bureau of Labor Statistics's jobs report. See my #18 below about that and compared to the ADP jobs report that came out Thursday (in the OP). Anyway, the BLS report is what the Fed and the market are going to be focussed on today and the days and weeks to follow.

Currently (at 618 AM ET, before the BLS jobs report release), there is a 90% chance that the Fed will raise interest rates in late July, according to the FedWatch tool
https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
7. Trickle-down was as big a scam as Stalinism.
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 12:59 PM
Jul 2023

Need to shout Bidenomics from the rooftops and drive a stake through the heart of the Republican agenda of tax exemption for the filthy rich.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,076 posts)
8. Strong labor mkt increases the likelihood of the FED continuing
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 01:12 PM
Jul 2023

rate increases to slow down the economy - too many people employed, with 2/3rds of GDP attributable to consumer spending. Huh??

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
11. They can go for a sub ride to see the Titanic
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 02:38 PM
Jul 2023

There are a lot of conservatives who can ride down with them

Crowman2009

(3,524 posts)
13. Or in Elon's case, burning upon re-entry.
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 04:20 PM
Jul 2023

You can bet he's gonna lure some fellow billionaires onto his death trap known as the Starship.

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
15. Time for Dems to buy time on TV.
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 04:47 PM
Jul 2023

Americans need to be reminded constantly about Dem accomplishments.

progree

(12,977 posts)
18. What's considered the official jobs report comes out in 3 hours, 830 AM ET
Fri Jul 7, 2023, 05:51 AM
Jul 2023

This is the one by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) that also includes the headline unemployment rate. (And thousands of other statistics, such as the labor force participation rate, part time employment, and the underemployment rate U-6)

At 830 AM ET, this will have today's BLS jobs report; until then, it's the old May jobs report. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

The ADP report in the OP is something that comes out 1-2 days (usually 2 days) before the official BLS report. ADP does payrolls for about 20% of payroll employees. The other 80% is estimated using far less information than what the BLS collects. I don't know of any economist or even pundit that considers the ADP payroll jobs report anything more than the ADP payroll jobs report.

The ADP and BLS reports often differ from each other by a few 100,000's, with the differences being in both directions.

Just so nobody is surprised when today's BLS jobs report comes out in 3 hours, or that the figure is considerably different than ADP's (if it is).

Edited to add: Look in Latest Breaking News within a few minutes after 830 AM ET for the BLS jobs report -- somebody (usually BumRushDaShow) almost always posts something as soon as something shows up in the media.

James48

(5,215 posts)
20. JOBS increase just 209.000
Fri Jul 7, 2023, 09:20 AM
Jul 2023

Not bad, but not 400,000+ as listed yesterday.



Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 209,000 in June, and the unemployment
rate changed little at 3.6 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today.
Employment continued to trend up in government, health care, social assistance, and
construction.

progree

(12,977 posts)
21. Yup. Actually I'm kinda glad that it's not a blockbuster. Maybe the Fed will skip the July
Fri Jul 7, 2023, 09:46 AM
Jul 2023

rate hike. Though 209,000 isn't bad like you say. A small brightener: the unemployment rate fell from 3.7% in May to 3.6% in June (from the BLS Household Survey that is separate from the BLS Establishment Survey that produced the 209,000 number).

They are assessing it in LBN at https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143097688

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