People leaving Florida.

[MOMFUDSKI]

The St. Pete Times, a liberal newspaper, printed a St. Paul man's letter to the editor today. He has known Florida for all of his 63 years. He has had it. Sold his condo and moved back to Minnesota. Will not live in a state that hates LBGTQ people, bans books, demonizes science, and is doing nothing about ridiculous property insurance rates. Doesn't like that the politicians are modeling themselves after autocrats. He asked that the good people of Florida not get sucked into the miasma.
This is on top of a meeting I saw on tonite's news given by farmers in the Miami area. He was begging the migrants to please stay as there will be no one to pick the crops. It took less than 6 years for duh-fascist to turn Florida into the shithole it has become. I am sick.

[msongs]

1. unfortunately its what the fascists want. hitler started by trying to get jews to lv germany...

of course on the way out jews had to leave everything of value behind.

[Initech]

33. I don't give a shit what the fascists want.

Their vision of a country is certainly not mine. They can all go rot in hell.

[Ocelot II]

2. Do you have a link to the letter, please?

[MOMFUDSKI]

5. I never got the software

to do so. Google St. Petersburg Times and you may be able to find it. Sorry.

[Ocelot II]

10. I tried. The St. Pete Times is apparently now the Tampa Bay Times

and I could find no LTTE as you described and anyhow there's a paywall. What software would you need to do that?

[MOMFUDSKI]

17. The Times is considered

one of the best independently owned newspapers in the country.

[Celerity]

23. Software?

Just use gyazo to take a snapshot

www.gyazo.com

Cheers

Cel

[MOMFUDSKI]

41. Thanks. I will check it out

tomorrow.

[Celerity]

43. I saw another poster found the link as well.

[Scrivener7]

3. I feel for the farmer, but it's too dangerous for migrants to stay.

Do you think there is any possibility this will actually have a good result for pickers in that they will be able to demand much higher wages?

[MOMFUDSKI]

6. No.

They are severely threatened.

[Sky Jewels]

74. I wonder who the farmer voted for.

Probably DeSantis.

[hatrack]

80. Yes - bet you dollars to donuts they voted Republican 75-80%

Leopard/Face/Eat/Etc.

[hadEnuf]

87. Then tough shit for him.

He's getting what he voted for.

[Sky Jewels]

88. Yes. I don't know if he did, but odds are,

as a business owner, he got sucked in by the "Republicans are for good for business!" lies.

[onecaliberal]

4. They can't stay. Their very lives are in danger.

[MOMFUDSKI]

11. Currently the rethugs are

enjoying duhfascist’s every move. They can’t see past the end of their noses.

[onecaliberal]

16. It's going to get bad.

[usonian]

7. "A house divided against itself, cannot stand."

I forgot who said it. If I had a PENNY for everything I've forgotten, I could buy a new LINCOLN.

Always true.

That's why they (Goons Of Putin) are attacking our house, (literally) and
That's why we defend it.

[LoisB]

15. Matthew 12:25 and Abraham Lincoln.

[vercetti2021]

8. Eventually Florida will crash and burn

I'll be all for it when it happens. Floridians wanted this...just like Texans wanted Abbott. Reap what you sow.

[Lochloosa]

12. I disagree that Floridians wanted this.

People are flooding here. And they are not nice people.

This kind of shit wouldn't have flown 20 years ago.

[MOMFUDSKI]

19. Lots of rethugs

moving here now because it is a Red State. They love the hatred.

[Phoenix61]

31. They are moving here for the same reason they always have.

It’s where retirees move to, warm weather and no state income tax. It’s been happening for years. Older people skew to the right so yes, they are mostly R’s. Covid had a lot of people taking retirement instead of staying in the workforce for a few more years.

[PCIntern]

77. Yes...

One of my acquaintances, with whom I worked professionally for over 40 years, who always described himself as a reasonable Republican, mostly because of his love of supply side economics, moved to Florida for exactly this reason and likely some unspoken ones. He moved actually to The Villages, where he quite frankly belongs. Fuck him, anyway

[Grins]

95. "... his love of supply side economics"? Is he stupid?

So….he’s stupid?

If I was at my other computer I’d post the comment from Reagan’s budget guy, David Stockman, saying supply-side was a scam from the beginning; just a way to lie to justify Reagan’s tax cut.

It was printed in The Atlantic. Republicans wanted his head. Stockman said Reagan didn’t fire him but “ took him to the woodshed.”

[PCIntern]

96. I still have that Atlantic

But despite the confession, they move on without a moment’s hesitation.

[KentuckyWoman]

115. I had to laugh

I could not think of a lower insult and so well put it qualifies as art.

"He moved actually to The Villages, where he quite frankly belongs. "

[mountain grammy]

36. I have family there

they say the same thing.. One of my nieces already moved.

[Pacifist Patriot]

86. Thank you

[CTyankee]

13. Yep. It's called "brain drain." Smart people, esp. women, will leave to find jobs in better places

and that treat them better, i.e., higher wages but also better schools and better health care (including abortion care and birth control).

[Beachnutt]

26. You reap what you vote.

[Joinfortmill]

35. 👍

[MagickMuffin]

54. This Texan does NOT WANT ABBOTT

Nor all the other Texans who voted for Beto!

[DFW]

76. Got that right

Many people who get their jollies trashing Texas as if it were some homogeneous political fortress of the extreme right ignore how many Texas Democrats there are. More than five million of us voted for Joe Biden. Unless you live in California, your state gave him less votes than Texas did.

[markodochartaigh]

63. Crash and burn...and fall into the swamp

[Lochloosa]

9. Born and raised here. I have always loved Florida.

One of the reasons was the diversity of the people and the do what you like if it makes you happy attitude.

No longer, my wife and I are making plans to leave.

Another reason is it's just to damn hot now. I'm a summer kind of guy, but this is getting out of hand. Looking at the forecast, it's hitting 95 for at least the next two weeks. And it's been that hot for the last two. Throw in the humidity and it's not sustainable. This will kill you.

[Ocelot II]

14. Politics aside, it's always surprised me that people were able to live there at all

because of the weather - it's so unbearably hot and humid. I recall visiting relatives there some years ago in the summer, and all I could do is sit and sweat and hope to find an air conditioned place indoors and cool off. I guess people get used to it, but for me it was just miserable. And that was years before climate change became a thing.

[barbtries]

29. I moved to NC from CA

over 15 years ago. i am not used to the sweat yet. that's what i call summer: sweat.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

38. I likewise cannot abide heat.

Worse yet, heat and humidity.

I very much get that you would love it there, having been born and raised there. It would be Not Very Nice if you hated it but for some reason could not leave.

As someone who has lived in various states: New York, Arizona twice, Minnesota, Virginia, Colorado, Kansas, and now New Mexico, I've been quite puzzled that a lot of people who live in a cold-weather state have an almost knee-jerk response to retirement by moving to a southern or southwestern state. To me, there is a lot more to quality of life than the weather. The politics. The people. Are there cultural things there? Places to visit?

Again, having spent your whole life in Florida is a very, very different life from mine. I was born in northern NYS, and had I never left -- when I was 14 my mom left my abusive, alcoholic father, and moved us five kids to Tucson, AZ -- I might very well still be there and very happy. That move to a very different part of the country, from a small town in rural northern NY to a large, relatively sophisticated city, changed my life completely.

Every time I'm about to post something along the lines of "That is a terrible state! Why would anyone live there???" someone who does live there and loves it makes a post about that. Which reminds me that we live in a wonderful country, with 50 wonderful states. So what if you couldn't pay me to live in some of them? You probably could not be paid enough to live in any of my favorites.

[onetexan]

67. This!☝️

[NJCher]

65. heat notwithstanding

No longer, my wife and I are making plans to leave.


It makes me sad that you and your wife have to leave. That shouldn't be.

We put up with Christie for 8 years so I do know what it is like to have a bad governor. Desantis takes things to a whole new (lower) level, though.

[Random Boomer]

92. Christie was corrupt and self-serving

But he is intelligent, sane and not a complete psychopath like Desantis.

[UpInArms]

106. Suffering with Parsons here

and missing Jay Nixon

😞

[roamer65]

18. All people will eventually leave Florida.

[Duppers]

58. Indeed. They will have to.

There will be no fresh water left & the gators will take over.

[edisdead]

70. uhhh... Then the gators will have to leave too

[Duppers]

73. You're right.

They can only survive in a certain temperature range.

We're cooking the planet.

[NJCher]

66. as a property owner

I would be scared. Already there's the insurance problem. I believe I've read that two insurance companies will no longer write new policies in FL.

Pretty soon property values could start falling.

I have a friend there and I worry about her. She has a condo, but when she lived here in NJ, she and her husband owned numerous properties in the expensive areas of NJ. They sold them all, and some recently, too, so she has to have a substantial amount from property appreciation. She doesn't talk like it, though, so I don't really know what's going on. She sounds like a real pennypincher.

I just wish she would get out of there.

[roamer65]

72. Would be a smart move if she does.

[In It to Win It]

20. I'm in Broward County. Lived here all my life. I love it here

As long as Florida is above water, I can't leave. If I don't fight for it, who will?

[MOMFUDSKI]

22. I've been here 35 years and love it also.

Have never missed an election. The gerrymandering is what turned the worm. Hard to fight that.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

40. Sadly, it will probably be underwater sooner

rather than later.

[Tree Lady]

69. You have some help coming

My very outspoken liberal neighbor just moved to Florida few weeks ago, him and his wife are teachers. I warned him to be careful. He is in his 40's with lots of energy to fight battles. Good luck for him and you!!

[Donkees]

21. Link: ''Goodbye, Florida Here's why I'm leaving''

''Here’s what readers are saying in Wednesday’s letters to the editor... ''

Goodbye, Florida
Here’s why I’m leaving

Florida, I have known you all the 63 years of my life. Generations of my family retired here and I leave with many memories, tainted by what Florida has become. I have sold my condo. I want nothing to do with a place where LGBTQ+ people are deliberately put in danger, where books are banned, where science and the media are demonized and derided. These politicians are modeling themselves on autocrats. We urgently need real leaders to face the very real challenges of our time. Our children and grandchildren are being robbed of their future. Climate change is a very real existential threat and political bickering has cost us precious time. Hurricanes, heat waves, fires and droughts will keep coming. The costs of insurance will continue to rise. The real threats are not drag queens, transgender people using the “wrong” bathroom and books that tell our story. Good people of Florida, don’t allow yourselves to be sucked into the miasma.

L. Burke, St. Paul, Minnesota

https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2023/07/05/lets-address-racial-inequality-long-before-college-letters/

[MOMFUDSKI]

24. Thanks so much for that, Donkees!

I will figure out how to copy/paste stuff into DU one of these days?!?!?

[Celerity]

25. Thanks!

[Chi67]

27. Thanks for the link

I have a feeling similar letters will appear more frequently in Florida very soon.

[dalton99a]

28. +1

[Ocelot II]

34. Thanks!

[calimary]

61. Wow! That is an impressive letter.

I’m sorry you felt driven to write this (and sincerely feel it!) but you did a MOST eloquent job.

[JudyM]

90. Took a double-take at your sig line quote echoing that abominable 303Creative case...

[Celerity]

30. And MAGAts are just streaming in from Red northern shitholes, so it's not going to improve

fundamentally anytime soon.

[msongs]

37. goood, maybe those places will turn blue and we can quarantine all the reddies in FL

[roamer65]

59. We will gladly off load them.

Send us southern liberals in exchange!

[NJCher]

68. some friends of ours

from the same town I live in in NJ went to FL to check out relocating there. I really was upset at the thought they were moving, but their property taxes here reached 17 grand a year and they were looking for some relief (although quite frankly, they own many rentals here and in PA and are in fact well situated to pay 17 grand a year in property taxes).

So anyway, they went down there to look at properties and see if they liked the place and they kept running into gun nuts.

Cut their trip short and came back here and said no way, we're happy to pay $17 grand to not live around gun nuts.

Now we have some property tax relief from our progressive governor, Phil Murphy. Seniors who make less than half a million a year in income get $6500 back a year. Also, there are other programs that might give them even more, like homestead rebate and Anchor.

[Cheezoholic]

112. Mine are 350 a year

17k?

[KentuckyWoman]

117. I felt your post. Physically.

We moved to affordable rent are near Cincinnati years ago - gun nut central. Now I live in a senior place farther out. It pushes my budget but I feel a lot safer and quite frankly happier not being around people who think taking a deadly weapon grocery shopping is a right but they have no responsibility to exercise that right in a safe manner.

I grew up in Eastern Kentucky. Everyone had guns and knew how to handle it. Heck, I was once a better shot than my dad. There weren't any gun nuts. They were merely tools to keep safe in the woods and find food. I don't know where THIS bunch of fools came from, but I wish they'd stay the hell out of schools and grocery stores and go back to hell where they belong.

[Joinfortmill]

32. Lived in Florida for years. Loved it. Hope it recovers.

[The Jungle 1]

39. I like that Americans are speaking with their feet, however..

losing voters does not help Florida.

[MOMFUDSKI]

44. It all began with jeb screwing Gore.

They cheated W into the White House and never looked back. Downhill slide to hell.

[2naSalit]

55. +1

[Fla Dem]

81. I agree. I live in a red NE FL county, but have several friends who lean left.

I attend the local Democratic Club meetings. There ARE Democrats here. I'm involved in other volunteer activities. Do I love FL, no not really, I tolerate it. As a New England native I miss many of the wonderful seasonal changes that make up New England. Most of my family is in New England and I do think seriously about moving back there. When I came here 25 years ago FL wasn't what it is today. But, the everyday people you meet are generally good people. Actually, the jerks many times are the mid-westerners and New Yorkers who come down here after Christmas and stay through March.

The other issue IS the weather, the fall and winter are delightful, but once the Summer Solstice begins to impact us the heat of the sun is almost unbearable, at least for me. Went to a 4th get together and we all stayed inside instead of enjoying the outdoors because it was so brutality hot; mid to high 90's. Been that way for a couple of weeks. Some relief today, only high 80's.

[Chi67]

94. Well

What do you expect people to do? Florida voted for DeSantis-TWICE. And the second time they did so overwhelmingly- it was't even close. I would NEVER set foot in Florida for any reason. It's too dangerous for us LGBT people. Plus it's just too damn hot!

[Xolodno]

42. When companies can't get qualified people...

...or be sure of qualified graduates out of the universities, they will start thinking about moving as well. Jobs, taxes, etc. start disappearing and property values start retreating.

Obviously, Disney and Universal have too much infrastructure, but, other projects, expansions, etc. can be brought to a halt. Disney stopping its planned relocation of 2000 employee's was prophetic.

[tavernier]

45. If they're all leaving

why does the traffic just keep getting worse ?
This was the heaviest July 4 ever… thought the island was going to sink. Locals didn’t get on the roads until Wednesday.

[Mariana]

47. Florida is the biggest MAGAt magnet in the country by far.

Huge numbers of Republican-voting retired Boomers are moving there, with no end in sight. Places like The Villages are growing like weeds.

[tavernier]

49. Well, then, I guess all my friends and family will have to remain

since we are all Democrats. I do have some repug neighbors but my family members are all teachers at the high school here and all the teachers are vocally both anti trump and desatan. Perhaps they were republican at one time, but not anymore. Those two clowns have certainly lost the vote of the teachers in the state.

[CatWoman]

46. Herschel Walker's oldest son Christain moved there last year from California

He was always on Twitter ragging on California.

Christian happens to be gay and was always singing praises about Desantis.

I haven't visited his page in a while, but I'm wondering if he's still enchanted with Florida and Desantis.

[Warpy]

48. DeSatan is just a really bad stink passing through

but I don't know if his successor will be able to undo much of the damage. The fight against Disney will likely go away quietly and migrants might be kept long enough to harvest crops, also quietly, but no sweeping changes will be made.

Choice will not be back until it is back nationally.

This is really the time to sell, if people are considering it, because retirees up north are confronting another damned winter and Florida looks pretty good to those folks and maybe people who want to leave can unload the condo or tract house without losing their shirts. The retirees find out about the flying cockroaches, steambath weather, hurricanes, sinkholes, sky high electrical charges, and other nasty surprises later.

I can't blame anyone for leaving, you couldn't give me that state. I especially can't blame any woman under 50 for getting the hell away from there. I do know they're likely going to have enough of extremism and possibly choose more wisely next time. I don't think many things will change quickly.

[mcar]

50. It's been The Tampa Bay Times for years

A great paper, period.

[Skittles]

51. while I hate seeing the fascists "win"

I absolutely sympathize with LBGTQ folk and understand why they would not want to live there....heck, *I* don't want to live there either.

[Cha]

52. My Nephew lives in St Pete with his

fiance'.. they're getting married in October and I'm going to their wedding!

I booked an Airbnb and I'm pretty sure the Hosts are a Gay Couple. It looks like a beautiful place to stay.

Telling this bc I never thought I would go to Florida again but here we are.

I can understand why anyone would want to leave and also why many are staying in their homes.. like my sister and her family in Gainesville.

[Ligyron]

79. Because Gainesville is a fantastic town.

Went to school there, U of FL and moved back later in life and lived there for years afterward in the gorgeous NW section with it's hills and creeks.

Liberal bastion in a sea of mostly red farm land.

The city has an incredible amount of trees and you're not allowed to removed one without a permit and you'd better have a real good reason too.

[Tommy Carcetti]

84. Gainesville is great.

I remember right before the 2020 elections the place was awash with Biden yard signs. Didn't remember seeing a single Trump sign. It actually put blue South Florida to shame.

Plus you're in close driving distance to some of Florida's best natural springs, which are incredible.

[Cha]

102. Ah Yes.. the Florida natural Springs.. I love

those and wish I could dive in when my sister posts photos of them. 💙

[Tommy Carcetti]

103. They are beautiful.

I just visited my first spring in the Panhandle, Ponce De Leon Springs in Ponce De Leon.

Not to be confused with De Leon Springs, in De Leon Springs, Florida, north of Orlando.

Of course you being in Hawaii I can probably say the same regarding feelings of wanderlust seeing the pictures of the astonishing beauty over there.

I'm actually finally started the ambitious planning of my long-desired Hawaiian vacation. Probably two years away, but I'm already psyched up to go because everyone tells me it is every bit as beautiful in person as it is in pictures. I have a thread over in the Lounge regarding travel advice.

[Cha]

107. Natural Springs are the Best.. I've

said I love the geography of Florida.. jut not the government.

Good on you and your family going to Hawaii in about 2 years.. that goes fast! It is beautiful and lush and Plenty of Aloha! 💙

I'm excited to make the journey to St Pete the last of September to see all my family coming from all over the Mainland to be there for my nephew & his sweet bride to be.

[Cha]

101. Mahallo for that about Gainesville, Fla!

And, all my Florida Family are Dems..

I used to live in Gainesville back in the 702 & I loved it.. before I even thought about politics.

[S/V Loner]

53. Within 10 years I think we will see...

massive migration from the warm (soon to be brutally hot) States heading north.
It will get interesting.

[Kaleva]

56. I agree

[roamer65]

57. We really don't want southern MAGAts up here.

Bad enough we have them up here already.

We need to find a way to stop them from migrating, IMO.

[Demsrule86]

60. The person that wrote the editorial/letter is not MAGA.

[roamer65]

62. I know that.

I am commenting in general in reply to S/V Loner.

[Raftergirl]

98. I'm glad none of the MAGAts will be coming to NY. Our taxes are way to high fo them and

our gun laws are too strict.

But i have a refugee family from Iowa who just moved into the house behind me.

[roamer65]

100. Crazy days.

People leaving states just like international political asylum seekers.

[S/V Loner]

105. I think those that come to the Northeast will...

drift toward central PA along with Maine and New Hampshire.

[SWBTATTReg]

85. Very very possible, in what you say here. It'll be interesting to see how southern states

like TX handle future extreme weather events (whose governor mocks prior problems in his state (freezes, heat waves, etc., still doesn't address upgrading the infrastructure)).

I remember MTG stating that 'liberals' who moved to southern GOP-ruled states should not be allowed to vote until some period of time later. Since these southern folks are moving north to escape their situation of adverse weather conditions, perhaps the same sort of rule should apply (a tit for tat rule, since the GOP insists on one).

There also should be some sort of infrastructure fee that these folks should pay, when they move back into these northern communities. In a way, HOAs are doing this in a lot of places anyways, so why not? Northern communities had built out their communities and usually have excellent infrastructure and being that so many of these folks who fled south escaped paying their fair share of the road taxes etc. to pay for the northern improvements (who returned North), it's fair (IMHO).

I do know that every state is different in their taxing schemes, so it's a challenge to compare state by state, but I do think sometimes, that in some states, some states do take advantage of tourists/visitors. A tax known as the tourism tax is a good example. I know it's extreme, but I do get tired of hearing about 'this and that' tax issues, south vs. north. We all live in the same Country, but sometimes you sure can't tell the difference.

[S/V Loner]

104. I am in CT and...

will be happy to stay here. In New England I suspect Maine and New Hampshire will take the brunt but I think the midwest will get the largest influx. All speculation but I don't think even the scientist can think of all the possible climate destruction scenarios. The butterfly effect. A good example is New York not even thinking of having wildfire smoke in their climate change protocols. How many other things will we find not on anyone's radar?

[SWBTATTReg]

113. Good points you raise! Some are saying here in the Midwest (I'm in STLMO) that the tornadoes

(a seemingly larger number of tornados than usual) due to climate change. Weather is so complicated, so involved w/ millions of factors, that I think anyone knowing everything about weather and the changes that are occurring are kind of out there.

Some (an increasing number) do/are making sense in what they say, with regard to weather changes. I'll never downplay or downgrade what they say, since it does seem to be more negative weather-related events happening, and it's not just due to our 24x7 electronic media coverage. I also do think that some things, are logical and evident, such as increased moisture (along w/ its associated increase in energy) in the atmosphere, leads to increased tornadic activity, etc.

[CaptainTruth]

64. King George III is oppressive! We MUST flee the colonies!

We should not even think about fighting a revolutionary war! We must RUN! Give up & RETREAT! Maybe to Canada?

God forbid we should stand & fight against our oppressors! What the fuck could that possibly lead to? Maybe an independent nation called the United States of America?

PERISH THE THOUGHT! GOD FORBID!!!

We must retreat & run away!!!

Ok, #sarcasm as hell, but sarcasm in a way that's not just sarcastic, it's also sad as hell. Sad in the way that I see folks here call my home, Florida, a "hellhole." Thanks, my "friends." That really helps folks like me who are working our asses off to change things...

[Kennah]

71. The Walking Dead: Floriduh

[Blue Owl]

75. Ta-Ta, Talahassee

[617Blue]

78. Insurance is another issue causing people to leave

GOP states are just badly managed. They hand the keys to business interests and the people lose. But the people still vote for the GOP so fuck em.

[Random Boomer]

93. Insurance companies pay attention to reality

The high insurance rates in Florida reflect the very real risks associated with living in the state. Those risks are escalating, but people don't want to hear about it, they just want a free ride for living in the path of storm surges.

[GrapesOfWrath]

97. So true

+1

[617Blue]

99. Meanwhile if you mention climate change you're denounced...

as a woke heretic.

[Chalco]

82. I'm leaving, too!

In about 6 weeks. Waiting for this house to sell. Going
to California of all places. Some things are more expensive but some
are less, like insurance. Plus, I won't be living in a neighborhood full
of nice but right wing fanatics. DeSatan has done me in.

[SpankMe]

83. Don't do anything rash

There's still lots of neat stuff in Florida. If the electoral climate changes there and this stuff gets reversed in the next couple of election cycles, you may have dumped your condo in paradise for nothing.

It's always a tough decision. But - with a few exceptions - what happened in FL could happen anywhere. Dude escapes FL to MN, and then in '24 the Repubs take over MN and trash it like FL. It can be a crap shoot.

[MOMFUDSKI]

109. I will agree with you.

Florida was a blue state with a Democratic Governor back in '88. It was a state unto itself. Never was considered a 'southern' state. That all changed with Jeb and now rhonda santis. Can happen anywhere but when it does it is not fun.

[Mariana]

116. The population of Florida has changed a lot since then.

For some years Florida has been a magnet for Republican-voting retirees from all over the country. A huge number of people have moved there, or are planning to move there because they love De Santis and everything he stands for. There's no sign that's going to change any time soon.

[republianmushroom]

89. Nailed it.

[MOMFUDSKI]

110. Thanks for that.

As God is my witness . . . .

[Random Boomer]

91. Property insurance rate are not ridiculous

The only thing that is ridiculous is people building & buying houses on the coast of a hurricane prone state. Lower insurance rates would only be possible if the rest of the country subsidizes their bad real estate decisions.

[MOMFUDSKI]

111. I will disagree.

Years ago California had the very same problem. Whatever guv was in place at the time called all the insurers in, sat them at a big table, and told them they would not be allowed to leave until they mended their ways. Florida allowed State Farm and Allstate to write only auto and allowed them to stop writing property. The rethugs allowed this. I could write a book . . . It was the rethugs that ruined this state and are now in the process of doing the same wherever the voters are too stupid to understand who they are voting for. This is what happens in a dumbed-down nation.

[Jakes Progress]

108. abbot's working on it.

He hopes to win the competition with desatan about who can create the shittiest state.

[Act_of_Reparation]

114. Intended consequences?

Democrats flee Florida. Meanwhile, the state keeps its 30 electoral votes until the next census in 2030.