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Judi Lynn

(164,041 posts)
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 07:15 AM Jul 2023

Memory refresher on Elliott Abrams, appointed to US Advisory Commission on Public Diplomacy Monday:

Confirmed: Elliott Abrams's Defense of Mass Murder Was Based on Lies
The reporters who covered the El Mozote massacre were right all along.

By Eric Alterman
JANUARY 30, 2020

From the moment he won the 1980 presidential election, Ronald Reagan began looking for somewhere to fight a proxy war against the Soviet Union. Together with his advisers, he chose the Central American nation of El Salvador, where a civil war was raging between Marxist guerrillas and a military-led dictatorship.

To remain in power, the junta relied on “death squads” to kill not only its opponents but anyone who might even think of supporting its opponents, including nuns, priests, and children. The government claimed the death squads were independent, but in truth, they were just regular government soldiers, often (but not always) out of uniform. In order to justify US involvement in the war, Reagan had to defend the junta in the media. “We are helping the forces that are supporting human rights in El Salvador,” Reagan lied in a 1981 news conference.

Congress, at the time, was much closer to the concerns of the public than now, and war remained deeply unpopular. Many Americans were not only appalled by the junta’s willingness to murder US-based nuns and churchwomen; they also feared US involvement in another anti-guerrilla war in which the country had no clear national interest. The bumper sticker “El Salvador is Spanish for Vietnam” spoke for these Americans as few slogans manage to do.

Although they had the country behind them, few Democrats were willing to risk taking the blame should El Salvador go communist, as Nicaragua appeared to be doing. To avoid responsibility, they devised a face-saving plan to demand that the Reagan administration undergo a process of “certification” to demonstrate that the Salvadorans were making progress in respecting human rights. In January 1982, just as the Reagan administration was preparing to make its very first certification, the White House found itself faced with reports of a massacre in the village of El Mozote, in the tiny, guerrilla-friendly canton of Morazan.

On the day before the first hearing, January 26, 1982, Raymond Bonner of The New York Times and Alma Guillermoprieto of The Washington Post simultaneously reported on an incident in which hundreds of unarmed civilians had been summarily murdered by uniformed Salvadoran soldiers. (Bonner put the number of victims between 722 and 926.) Neither reporter had seen the massacre take place, and both noted that their guides to the site had been associated with the guerrillas. Yet the journalists saw the corpses firsthand, and photographer Susan Meiselas documented many of them as well.

More:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230324133039/https://www.thenation.com/article/world/elliott-abrams-mozote/

























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This massacre is mentioned again in this Mother Jones article by David Corn:

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But Abrams most odious (known) action occurred several years previously. As a top Reagan official, he dismissed reports that the US-trained-and-equipped military had massacred 1,000 civilians—including many women and children—in the Salvadoran town of El Mozote in December 1981. This was the largest mass killing in recent Latin American history. But Abrams wanted to protect the Salvadoran army, which the Reagan administration was showering with guns and money, despite its well-established record of human rights abuses. Abrams trash-talked American journalists who reported on the massacre and claimed the horrific reports were “implausible.” He praised the military unit that conducted this awful action. He suppressed the truth to assist killers.

The Iraq War, Iran-contra, covering up mass murder—Abrams represents the worst of American foreign policy over the past four decades.

More:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/07/elliott-abrams-war-biden-white-house-bipartisanship/

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Memory refresher on Elliott Abrams, appointed to US Advisory Commission on Public Diplomacy Monday: (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2023 OP
This motherfucker's like Jason Vorhees. Every time we think he's finally gone.... nt Carlitos Brigante Jul 2023 #1
Hopefully he and Kissinger drop dead soon rpannier Jul 2023 #2
Kissinger, that other ol' bag of shit! Hell, I'm half his age but convinced Carlitos Brigante Jul 2023 #6
Genocide in the name of anti-communism Kid Berwyn Jul 2023 #3
Thank you. Solly Mack Jul 2023 #4
Why was he chosen? Doc Sportello Jul 2023 #5
SoS Blinken went to the Kissinger bash as well. Celerity Jul 2023 #7
As George Carlin once said Doc Sportello Jul 2023 #14
Exactly! Duppers Jul 2023 #12
Thank You, Judilynn!! McKim Jul 2023 #8
DURec leftstreet Jul 2023 #9
It's Washington politics - harumph Jul 2023 #10
Okay but there's a heck of a lot of other people Duppers Jul 2023 #11
Abrams is 75. Why would any Democratic administration "have to deal" with him muriel_volestrangler Jul 2023 #13

rpannier

(24,845 posts)
2. Hopefully he and Kissinger drop dead soon
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 08:24 AM
Jul 2023

If they died on the same day, I'd start a petition to make it a national holiday

 

Carlitos Brigante

(26,848 posts)
6. Kissinger, that other ol' bag of shit! Hell, I'm half his age but convinced
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 08:42 AM
Jul 2023

his genocidal ass is gonna outlive me. I figure it's part of the pact he made after kissing Satan's hoof.

Yeah, I'd be down for a national, even international holiday.

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
5. Why was he chosen?
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 08:29 AM
Jul 2023

It's not like this POS has flown under the radar. Yes, there has to be a mix. But there are repubs who didn't sanction mass murder, among his many, many crimes. I've yet to see an explanation for the choice. And Samantha Powers goes to a bash for Kissinger? WTF.

Celerity

(53,548 posts)
7. SoS Blinken went to the Kissinger bash as well.
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 08:43 AM
Jul 2023


I Crashed Henry Kissinger’s 100th-Birthday Party

The elite love him but for some reason won’t say why.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/06/the-elite-dont-want-to-talk-about-henry-kissingers-party.html


Antony Blinken Confronted by Reporter at Kissinger’s 100th Birthday Party: ‘What is There to Celebrate About Henry Kissinger?’

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/antony-blinken-confronted-by-reporter-at-kissingers-100th-birthday-party-what-is-there-to-celebrate-about-henry-kissinger/


Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
14. As George Carlin once said
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 02:20 PM
Jul 2023

To paraphrase, "It's a &quot small) club and (we) ain't in it."

This is why I am more against hero worshipping the older I get. I used to admire Power. I would like to talk to Power and Binken and tell them, "You have a choice. You don't have to go to the thing."

Says a lot about our system.

McKim

(2,426 posts)
8. Thank You, Judilynn!!
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 09:05 AM
Jul 2023

Thank you so much for the reminder! I am complaining big time to our president and my senators for this disgusting appointment of Eliot Abrams. I participated in three human rights delegations with the Unitarian Universalist Service Committee in the early 2000s. I will never forget the visit to the Center for Forensic Anthropology. I saw the clothing and bones of the victims and we interviewed survivors and those working for justice. 200.000 people were murdered. Eliot Abrams belongs in prison!

harumph

(3,085 posts)
10. It's Washington politics -
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 10:17 AM
Jul 2023

Sometimes you have to deal with people you'd rather not. I'm sure there's quite a bit of smiling
through clenched teeth. History has and will continue to judge Abrams et al. irrespective of which
temporarily expedient position he holds.

Duppers

(28,460 posts)
11. Okay but there's a heck of a lot of other people
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 11:35 AM
Jul 2023

Who could've been chosen.

It's a WTF for me.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,496 posts)
13. Abrams is 75. Why would any Democratic administration "have to deal" with him
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 11:41 AM
Jul 2023

when the Clinton and Obama ones successfully ignored him for 16 years? If he, or a supporter, has leverage over this administration to force the appointment of a man convicted of lying to Congress, and widely seen as enabler of crimes close to genocide, then we need to know who has that power.

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