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dalton99a

(94,066 posts)
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 09:37 AM Jul 2023

The End of the Magic World's 50-Year Grudge

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/08/business/uri-geller-magic-deep-fakes.html
https://archive.ph/i7sEM

The End of the Magic World’s 50-Year Grudge
In 1973, Uri Geller claimed to bend metal with his mind on live television. Skeptics couldn’t beat him. Now they’ve joined him.
By David Segal
July 8, 2023, 5:00 a.m. ET

In 1973, a young man named Uri Geller appeared on one of the BBC’s most popular television shows, “The Dimbleby Talk-In,” and announced that the laws of Newtonian physics did not apply to him. Or that, at least, was the implication. A handsome 26-year-old Israeli, dressed casually and flanked by a pair of academics, Mr. Geller performed a series of bewildering feats using nothing more, he said, than his mind.

He restarted a stopped watch. He duplicated a drawing that had been sealed in an envelope. Then he appeared to bend a fork simply by staring at it.

“It’s cracking,” Mr. Geller said quietly, speaking over a tight shot of his right hand, which was gently rubbing the fork between his fingers. “It’s becoming like plastic.”

A few seconds later, the top of the fork fell off and hit the ground. By the time the applause of the studio audience died down, Gellermania had begun.

Mr. Geller became not just a global celebrity — a media darling who toured the world and filled auditoriums for dramatic demonstrations of cutlery abuse, with the humble spoon becoming his victim of choice — but also the living embodiment of the hope that there was something more, something science couldn’t explain. Because at the core of his performance was a claim of boggling audacity: that these were not tricks.

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The End of the Magic World's 50-Year Grudge (Original Post) dalton99a Jul 2023 OP
Like PT Barnum: a good showman. marble falls Jul 2023 #1
Of course, they were tricks, and exposed as such decades ago. Sibelius Fan Jul 2023 #2
Amateur magician, Johnny Carson shut him down Brother Buzz Jul 2023 #4
Well, the spoon bent slightly Polybius Jul 2023 #9
Thank you. That was a most interesting article. niyad Jul 2023 #3
It was. Delphinus Jul 2023 #5
NYT's sub-head "Skeptics couldn't beat him. Now they've joined him" seems like bullshit muriel_volestrangler Jul 2023 #6
+1. Geller is an asshole dalton99a Jul 2023 #7
I'll give the man credit for his unique version of magic tricks but that's about it blogslug Jul 2023 #8
The real takeaway of this article is in the quote below: marybourg Jul 2023 #10

Sibelius Fan

(24,801 posts)
2. Of course, they were tricks, and exposed as such decades ago.
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 10:18 AM
Jul 2023

Nothing wrong with magic tricks, but insisting the tricks weren’t tricks is something else.

Brother Buzz

(39,870 posts)
4. Amateur magician, Johnny Carson shut him down
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 10:54 AM
Jul 2023

It helped that Carson consulted with Jame Randi for the impossible setup that left Uri Geller squirming and making lame excuses.

Polybius

(21,875 posts)
9. Well, the spoon bent slightly
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 12:45 PM
Jul 2023

And none of the 3 (out of 10) tubes that he removed was the one that contained water.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,144 posts)
6. NYT's sub-head "Skeptics couldn't beat him. Now they've joined him" seems like bullshit
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 12:31 PM
Jul 2023

(a) Skeptics showed it was just magic tricks. By that measure, they beat him in the 70s. If the NYT means "but the media continued giving him publicity as if it is more than a trick", then, yes, Geller led the media by the nose for decades.
(b) In what what have skeptics "joined him"? Are skeptics now also claimed paranormal powers? No.

dalton99a

(94,066 posts)
7. +1. Geller is an asshole
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 12:36 PM
Jul 2023
James Randi, a Canadian magician and escape artist, known professionally as the Amazing Randi, went much further. A relative unknown at the time, Mr. Randi, who eventually won a MacArthur Fellowship as a professional skeptic, was the loudest anti-Geller voice in the world.

“He is intending to enter the ‘psychic healing’ field soon, and when he starts into that racket he can kill people,” he wrote in an edition of his book “The Truth About Uri Geller.” He also called Mr. Geller a “dangerous and insidious figure,” one he intended to stop “at all costs.”

Those costs, it turned out, were high. Mr. Geller filed defamation lawsuits against Mr. Randi, including one for claiming that Mr. Geller was performing tricks once taught on the back of cereal boxes. The so-called cornflakes case ended with a dismissal, but over the years Mr. Randi burned through most of his $272,000 MacArthur grant covering personal legal expenses. He died three years ago and apparently loathed his nemesis to the end. He once asked that someone throw his cremated ashes into Mr. Geller’s eyes, an obituary in The Economist stated.

marybourg

(13,632 posts)
10. The real takeaway of this article is in the quote below:
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 01:29 PM
Jul 2023
”And now that fakery is routinely weaponized online, Mr. Geller’s claims to superpowers seem almost innocent.

I mean this in the most respectful way,” said Andy Nyman, a magician and actor who a few years ago introduced a lecture by Mr. Geller at the Blackpool Magic Convention, an appearance that cemented this truce. “I think the world is aware that if he’s fraudulent, there are bigger lies and bigger frauds out there that are far more damaging.”
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