Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
33 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Beware of those who cannot tell God's will from their own. (Original Post) ItsjustMe Jul 2023 OP
Very wise!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2023 #1
Very wise words. Too bad that so many ignore these words, claiming that they alone, know SWBTATTReg Jul 2023 #2
How many evangelists claimed God told them tfg was going to win? Kaleva Jul 2023 #3
Beware of those who believe in a Bronze Age invisible sky god, who can suspend vlyons Jul 2023 #4
+1 Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #20
I like that. But I'm not sure that is an actual quote by her. Can anyone here confirm. KPN Jul 2023 #5
She seems to be very quotable - she's written a lot of books, Ocelot II Jul 2023 #6
Hey Ocelot -- thanks. That's good stuff and exactly what I was looking for. Her quotes posted on KPN Jul 2023 #11
My first exposure to her. Thanks jmbar2 Jul 2023 #14
actually - no one can tell 'God's will' (from their own or stopdiggin Jul 2023 #7
Exactly right Farmer-Rick Jul 2023 #12
+1000000000 Never said better. cayugafalls Jul 2023 #27
Right, because there's zero evidence a god or gods actually exist. Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #22
On the other hand, Higherarky Jul 2023 #24
That is true. Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #32
The Goddess, on the other hand, appears to be alive.... Hekate Jul 2023 #28
Mother Nature is definitely worthy of worship. Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #31
My fav, God Wills it.. mitch96 Jul 2023 #25
The whole quote: Ocelot II Jul 2023 #8
The Perfect Mirror ItsjustMe Jul 2023 #9
Print cards of that and hand them to MAGA bucolic_frolic Jul 2023 #10
If talking to god helps you, that's fine. mn9driver Jul 2023 #13
If you talk to God it's prayer. If God talks to you it's psychosis. Ocelot II Jul 2023 #19
Another wise woman to scare the pants off certain men. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2023 #15
Be ware of anyone who thinks they know God's will. nt leftyladyfrommo Jul 2023 #16
I'm wary of anyone who insists there definitely is a god Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #23
She says it much more politely than I think it when men tell women what god wants. Timeflyer Jul 2023 #17
To the philosopher Xenophanes has been attributed the following: Raven123 Jul 2023 #18
Part of the problem with religion in general is the fallacy Warpy Jul 2023 #21
Thank you for posting this bronxiteforever Jul 2023 #26
KnR Hekate Jul 2023 #29
Powerful words but those words may fall silent to deafened ears. GreenWave Jul 2023 #30
This reminds me of another quote. iscooterliberally Jul 2023 #33

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
2. Very wise words. Too bad that so many ignore these words, claiming that they alone, know
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 11:28 AM
Jul 2023

the words of God, and interpret them as they see fit.

The warning of 'beware of false prophets' was made for very good reasons, as we all see today, w/ so many claiming to know the word of God and what God wanted.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
3. How many evangelists claimed God told them tfg was going to win?
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 11:31 AM
Jul 2023

God didn't tell them that. Their own minds told them that

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
4. Beware of those who believe in a Bronze Age invisible sky god, who can suspend
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 11:43 AM
Jul 2023

the laws of physics, biology, science etc. They start indoctrinating children to accept on faith alone what the church authority figures say.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
20. +1
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 02:02 PM
Jul 2023

The whole premise of this discussion is absolutely ridiculous -- that there is some powerful wizard in the ether who pulls strings on Earth.

Ocelot II

(130,524 posts)
6. She seems to be very quotable - she's written a lot of books,
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 11:58 AM
Jul 2023

and if you're into liberal theology she's got some pretty good quotes. https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/71455.Barbara_Brown_Taylor

KPN

(17,376 posts)
11. Hey Ocelot -- thanks. That's good stuff and exactly what I was looking for. Her quotes posted on
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 12:29 PM
Jul 2023

her FB page were all basically positive affirmations and non-controversial so I wondered if this quote was out of character for her. Her website seemed pretty much the same. But Wikipedia had high praise for her general views as a Christian about religion(s) as a whole. …. The quotes in the link you posted reminded me very much of my own Mom. I’ll have to take a look at her books. Thanks again!

jmbar2

(7,987 posts)
14. My first exposure to her. Thanks
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:18 PM
Jul 2023

I like this one a lot:

"As a general rule, I would say that human beings never behave more badly toward one another than when they believe they are protecting God.”

stopdiggin

(15,462 posts)
7. actually - no one can tell 'God's will' (from their own or
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 11:59 AM
Jul 2023

any other precept or motivation)
And therein lies the (or one of the) fundamental problem.
Please stop taking it upon yourself, to tell me (us) what 'God wants.'
Hubris of the highest order.

Thank you for your cooperation. --------- -------------

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
12. Exactly right
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:04 PM
Jul 2023

No one has ever proven God talked to them and told them his "will".

We all know it's all just voices in their head that no one else is privy to.

People like to use these voices as bludgeons to force other to do their own will. When they prove to me it's a god then maybe I'll listen to their rantings.

cayugafalls

(5,960 posts)
27. +1000000000 Never said better.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 02:17 PM
Jul 2023
"People like to use these voices as bludgeons to force other to do their own will. When they prove to me it's a god then maybe I'll listen to their rantings."

I think I will take a pass on my xtian neighbors needing me to conform. I will however keep my powder dry and my, well, you get my point.

That long distance stare whenever a maga-zombie speaks of their god and some revelation they had about 'topic of the day', as if they are looking at that shadow god holding up cue cards, regurgitating whatever dribble they heard and processed during their daily upload of "xtian conservative republican talking points" after filling their brain with Reich-wing propaganda.

THAT. All I need to see...crazy is as crazy be.

Higherarky

(637 posts)
24. On the other hand,
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 02:09 PM
Jul 2023

it's glaringly obvious that there are goddesses among us.

👍


☮️💗🎶♾️

Ocelot II

(130,524 posts)
8. The whole quote:
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 12:04 PM
Jul 2023

“Beware those who claim to know the mind of God and who are prepared to use force, if necessary, to make others conform. Beware those who cannot tell God's will from their own. Temple police are always a bad sign. When chaplains start wearing guns and hanging out at the sheriff's office, watch out. Someone is about to have no king but Caesar.” https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/71455.Barbara_Brown_Taylor?page=2

mn9driver

(4,848 posts)
13. If talking to god helps you, that's fine.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:17 PM
Jul 2023

It’s when you hear god talking back to you that there might be a problem.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
15. Another wise woman to scare the pants off certain men.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:22 PM
Jul 2023

Interesting to think of Orthidox Jews forbidding women to sit with them in the synagogue. And that Synagogues were reformed so that now there are Orthodox, Reform and Conservative.

The Rock Jesus referenced has been broken to Smithereens by the weight of so many different churches.

Still, Mormons take the cake for sheer will of faith.

P.S. Do my thoughts make me one to beware of? I'm a Pagan/Humanist who sings for her supper in the Episcopal church.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
23. I'm wary of anyone who insists there definitely is a god
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 02:08 PM
Jul 2023

because in the entire history of homo sapiens, nobody has produced a shred of evidence to support that notion.

Raven123

(7,794 posts)
18. To the philosopher Xenophanes has been attributed the following:
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:43 PM
Jul 2023

“If horse had gods they would look like horses.”

Hard to argue with that.

Warpy

(114,614 posts)
21. Part of the problem with religion in general is the fallacy
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 02:03 PM
Jul 2023

that there is one correct way to live one's life, that deviation from that narrow path for any reason, even being born different, will lead to an eternal disaster. That leads to bullying of the faithful by the officials and bullying of everybody else by the faithful.

And of course, women are perpetual children and natural slaves who need to be disciplined by men because our path is even more narrow and constricted than theirs is.

Of course, no two religions agree completely on the rules governing a perfect life.

Then they wonder why I have such an unsympathetic view of religion.

bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
26. Thank you for posting this
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 02:17 PM
Jul 2023

and educating me. A person I clearly should have heard of but I will catchup.

iscooterliberally

(3,157 posts)
33. This reminds me of another quote.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 06:43 PM
Jul 2023

I don't remember the exact wording, but it goes something like this: "Trust in those who seek the truth. Doubt those who find it."

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Beware of those who canno...