Axelrod warns Cornel West bid could tip election to Trump

[LetMyPeopleVote]

Jill Stein was responsible for electing TFG in 2016. Now, the bid by Cornel West is designed to help re-elect TFG

Link to tweet

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/4086732-axelrod-warns-cornel-west-bid-could-tip-election-to-trump/

Democratic strategist David Axelrod said the Green Party bid by academic Cornel West could draw votes away from President Biden, leading to a victory for former President Trump.

“In 2016, the Green Party played an outsized role in tipping the election to Donald Trump. Now, with Cornel West as their likely nominee, they could easily do it again. Risky business,” he tweeted.....

Axelrod compared West to 2016 Green Party candidate Jill Stein, who some blamed for splitting the vote for Hillary Clinton in key electoral states, potentially causing Clinton’s electoral loss to former President Trump.

Stein won more votes than Trump’s margin of victory in Wisconsin and Michigan, states which would have tipped the outcome of the election if Clinton had won them.

[walkingman]

1. Stupidest thing I have ever heard - it appears that we get the government we deserve??

How do you beat stupid?

[sabbat hunter]

2. Axelrod is

correct.
I like Dr. West in general. But his running can only cause problems for Biden to be re-elected, with no shot of being elected president himself.

[Tree Lady]

6. Hard to believe he would want to do this

I have heard him on Bill Maher a lot and he is very smart, this doesn't seem smart!

He must be angry at something Joe did or didn't do.

[elleng]

9. West is surely angry, whether or not @ Joe B.

[sabbat hunter]

27. Dr. West

is often angry, usual at the system/status quo. He has held prestigious positions at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Union of Theology, Paris University, among others. But he always left when he tried to buck the system. He is still in demand, and he has left, and returned to some of these universities more than once.

But he supported Jill stein in 2016, after Bernie dropped out of the race, rather than backing Biden. He also called Obama Obama a "Rockefeller Republican in blackface."

He speaks from his heart. But he is completely wrong in running a third party campaign that has zero shot at winning.

[Demsrule86]

31. He sits on a board and takes money from De'Santis...he is also partially responsible for

Hillary loss in 2016...he is a political nothing. I despise him and as for him being smart. Intelligent people don't support Republicans. He defended DeSantis's racist, homophobic education policy on the WSJ with a co-author who is conservative and West promoted it and DeSantis on a right-wing hate site. Cornell West is dead to me.

'Ostensibly leftist academic Cornel West launched his third-party presidential campaign the way any true progressive would — by promoting it on a podcast known to spread right-wing extremist conspiracy theories, hosted on a video platform popular among right-wing extremists, just weeks after having praised Florida’s right-wing extremist governor, Ron DeSantis.

In his praise for the Florida Republican — in a Wall Street Journal op-ed headlined “DeSantis’s Revolutionary Defense of the Classics” — West and a conservative co-author endorsed the governor’s support for Florida high schoolers being able to qualify for scholarships by using scores from the Classic Learning Test.'

If you can get on WSJ, you can read the original article or perhaps you have archive information. I don't.

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/cornel-west-presidential-campaign-bid-2024-rcna87996

[Tree Lady]

32. That sounds awful

so many people are getting duped by people they think are following what they believe in.

[calimary]

3. Oh dear God, PLEEEEEZE don't do this to us, Cornel!

[FrankBooth]

4. This is way down the list of things to worry about

West is not going to have a serious draw. Sure, it COULD happen. Lots of things COULD, and likely will happen before the election. Cornel West becoming the 2024 Jill Stein is pretty unlikely, and that's being generous.

[Hekate]

10. The people who pay for the Greens to run are very skilled at surgically slicing marginal areas...

… to bring about the desired result for the GOP. The Greens take money from the GOP and from Russia. The Greens take votes from Democrats.

Both Al Gore and Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. They very narrowly lost in a small number of crucial areas — which threw those states’ votes to the GOP in the Electoral College.

I do not expect to see Cornell West campaigning much in California, except maybe a few appearances at colleges. I do expect he will spend time in places Hillary lost to Jill Stein by very small numbers in each district.

They are good at this. I actually do worry about it.

[FrankBooth]

11. No disrespect to your knowledge about these things

But the Greens nihilistically tipping the election to the GOP is not something to be overly concerned about IMO, and neither is Cornel. And are they really good at it? I guess they've infected at least 2 elections, so maybe, but I remain unconvinced. If they really are as good as you say, I assume the people running Biden's campaign are going to be on top of it and will have a strategy to deal with it if they are an actual credible threat.

[Hekate]

12. Uh huh

[FrankBooth]

13. uhh OK

NM

[Hekate]

15. There's a thread you might want to visit...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18073142

[FrankBooth]

16. Whatever you say

Go ahead and fret away, I can't stop ya.

[Recycle_Guru]

39. Ralph Nader--Jill Stein: prosecution rests

[Hortensis]

48. From before Nader to today. These people will always

be out there. And those who admire influencers and politicians without fact checking and dumping those who depend on deceit want to be lied to. West's in the same genre as Rush Limbaught, just different style and targets.

Only wish we could prosecute those whose systematic deceits (NOT their ideologies) constitute a danger to society. And we've come to the point that I believe we need to be able to set legal limits on mass deception.

[Recycle_Guru]

38. prefisely--with AI and deep knowledge of voter preferences

they can maximize pulling just enough away in key districts to tip a state that is likely to be close.

[Marius25]

30. Only takes a couple % to flip swing states to Trump

[mzmolly]

5. Gotta love 'progressives' who assist in turning the country

over to fascists.

[keithbvadu2]

7. from 2016::: Donald Trump: 'Look At My African-American Over Here'

Donald Trump: ‘Look At My African-American Over Here’

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=trump+my+aftrican-american

[Cha]

8. My heart and money is on Pre Biden.. NOT

some Gasllit Whiner like 3rd party Cornel. Jill Stein/Green party helped get trump in 2016 with her Blatant Lies about Hillay & trump in Swing states.. now it's West's turn to RF.

The Sad But Self-Inflicted Fall of Cornel West

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sad-but-self-inflicted-fall-of-cornel-west

The Ghost of Cornel West

Michael Eric Dyson

April 19, 2015

https://newrepublic.com/article/121550/cornel-wests-rise-fall-our-most-exciting-black-scholar-ghost

[mobeau69]

18. Recommended

A bird in hand is worth two in a bush.

[no_hypocrisy]

14. Is TFG secretly financing this "campaign?"

He did this with Kanye in 2020, which failed miserably.

[Blue Owl]

17. No my brother -- put that down...

This vanity project isn't worth losing our democracy, Brother West...

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

19. Jill Stein made millions off her run..not to mention all the attention..is that it?

[Mr.Bill]

20. Biden voters know what a black president is.

It isn't Cornell West.

[snowybirdie]

21. I remember Axelrod

back in the day as a very young, rumpled reporter for a weekly neighborhood paper reporting on my local women's group back in the 70s. Didn't impress then or now. He's been out of the loop and in the ivory tower atmosphere of the U. Of Chicago for years.

[Recycle_Guru]

40. huh? masterfully led Barack Obama to resounding victory in 2008

you left a couple of his career highlights off of your Axelrod resume.

[Tribetime]

22. We need Liz Chaney to run as Independent

[FelineOverlord]

23. He's already spewing lies

Link to tweet

[GenThePerservering]

24. Stein may have got one over in 2016

but if Trump ends up running in 2024, I don't think people will be so eager to split the vote for anyone now that he's not a joke candidate (having been a joke president) but a horrible fate.

EDIT: Sorry, this was a general comment, not in response to Feline.

[betsuni]

25. "The Democratic Party is a party of war and Wall Street ..." Same old lies.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

26. The Jill Stein of 2024. Pure kremlin propaganda and complete lies... starting very early this election

Link to tweet

[DemocraticPatriot]

28. Get OUT of the race, "Con-Yay"!

Endorse Fighting Joe Biden!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

29. Cornel West is trying to re-elect TFG

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

33. POS is whoring for Russia and China

[Recycle_Guru]

41. Cornell West seems to like communists and dictators more than America

perhaps he should move there rather than running for president of the United States.

[Showbizkid]

34. That seems unlikely

I feel like people have learned some hard lessons with The Green Party, and also, Professor West is just a lot.

I had him for a class and enjoyed it.

But he's a lot.

[Recycle_Guru]

42. thats what people said about Stein's 2016 run-we won't make that same Nader mistake!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

35. West is Putin's puppet

Link to tweet

[betsuni]

37. CNN person is thinking of the large sized martini (with extra olives) she'll have after the show,

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what to have for dinner? Oh, forgot to call my mother back.

Who can listen to Cornel's nutty ramblings without one's mind wandering.

Isn't he still a Fellow of an Institute where Tulsi Gabbard used to be Fellow until it became too embarrassing? This seems awfully embarrassing, but maybe still revolution whatever.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

45. West and Jill Stein are Putin's puppets

Link to tweet

[brooklynite]

36. He also said Biden needs to up his campaign effort...

They're currently running with limited staff and fundraising, and can't rely on Trump being nominated and losing.

[Recycle_Guru]

43. FYI--we are well over a year out from the general election

[brooklynite]

44. And Biden doesn't have a clear path to re-election at this time.

[Recycle_Guru]

46. neither did Obama in 2011

[brooklynite]

47. And Obama ignored political issues until closer to the election?

Not how I remember it.