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nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 05:22 AM Jul 2023

Bud Light Plummets To 14th Place Among Beers As Anheuser-Busch CEO Pleads For Consumers To Think Of

The 65,000 Employees Impacted By Boycotts

As Bud Light, once a beloved contender among the country's favorite beers, spirals down to the 14th spot, the repercussions resonate far beyond the brand itself.

A recent YouGov survey reveals the decline in Bud Light's ranking, casting it below competitors like Pabst Bue Ribbon, Miller Genuine Draft and Miller Lite. This seismic shift in popularity jeopardizes the livelihoods of the 65,000 people whose economic well-being is intricately tied to Anheuser-Busch InBev's success.

Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth has taken full responsibility for the controversial promotion involving transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney that caused sales to plummet. In an interview with CBS, Whitworth emphasized that he is ultimately accountable for the actions of the company, expressing concern for the people whose livelihoods depend on Anheuser-Busch.

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Alissa Heinerscheid, the first woman to lead Bud Light in the brand's 40-year history, faced significant backlash from consumers following her collaboration with Mulvaney to expand the brand's reach. Her comments about the brand being "out of touch" and in need of a makeover further fueled the controversy. As a result, Heinerscheid, along with Anheuser-Busch's global Vice President of Marketing Daniel Blake, was placed on administrative leave.

Link https://www.benzinga.com/news/23/07/33172117/bud-light-plummets-to-14th-place-among-beers-as-anheuser-busch-ceo-pleads-for-consumers-to-think-of
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Stuff like this shows how far we've got to go yet to end idiocy of the general public.

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Bud Light Plummets To 14th Place Among Beers As Anheuser-Busch CEO Pleads For Consumers To Think Of (Original Post) nightwing1240 Jul 2023 OP
How fickle is "image... Several times a month I drive by a nearby A-B faciilty hlthe2b Jul 2023 #1
They should put beer in quotation marks when discussing America's favorite beers Mysterian Jul 2023 #2
Nah, we have one of the most vibrant micro-brewery cultures in the world. hlthe2b Jul 2023 #3
Which one is among "America's favorite beers?" Mysterian Jul 2023 #7
The correct terminology would be "best-selling" beers. "Favorite beers" include the best micros hlthe2b Jul 2023 #53
LOL Mysterian Jul 2023 #57
... hlthe2b Jul 2023 #58
Deal with it in your own special way Mysterian Jul 2023 #59
When groceries stock an aisle of local Retrograde Jul 2023 #50
And you have to drink, like, a 12-pack to even get a buzz-on. Aristus Jul 2023 #36
That's a great description. The members of my family* who love Bud Light are indeed alcoholics. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #40
It Will Bounce Back ProfessorGAC Jul 2023 #4
Kid Rock is already buying it back Generic Brad Jul 2023 #5
Figures! ProfessorGAC Jul 2023 #44
I bought a 30-pack the other day Mysterian Jul 2023 #47
Bud and bud light are not good, IMO Buckeyeblue Jul 2023 #6
Having spent time in Canada, our American beer really stinks. Moslon Canadian is sarcasmo Jul 2023 #12
Agree genxlib Jul 2023 #14
Agreed. Wednesdays Jul 2023 #45
Craft beer is the real American beer. Oneironaut Jul 2023 #51
Proof MAGA and Q are en masse a pile of drinkers bucolic_frolic Jul 2023 #8
I never have liked Budweiser and I like a beer Emile Jul 2023 #9
The 10 Worst Beers In The World Goonch Jul 2023 #10
I thought the right hated cancel culture Mr. Sparkle Jul 2023 #11
No they love them some cancel culture. Initech Jul 2023 #49
Maybe instead of caving to the fascists vercetti2021 Jul 2023 #13
That is their real problem! Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2023 #33
"I'm sorry we involved that vile (t-slur). We'll try to work with only bigot-approved people in the Oneironaut Jul 2023 #15
This is a YouGov survey. In terms of actual sales, Bud Light remains number two onenote Jul 2023 #16
Guess who owns melm00se Jul 2023 #19
Not Anheuser-Busch, if that's what you're suggesting. onenote Jul 2023 #25
Bud light should have ran a commercial with their trade mark Bluethroughu Jul 2023 #17
That was the first thing they did Lurker Deluxe Jul 2023 #43
GOP Cancel Culture is as short lived and diaphanous as Conservative Family Values Torchlight Jul 2023 #18
I think it was on it's way down anyway... Hugin Jul 2023 #20
I don't know anything about beer, really moose65 Jul 2023 #21
Faceless corporation pleads for us to think of the workers, or the children, or whatever . . . hatrack Jul 2023 #22
I have always hated the taste and smell of beer DFW Jul 2023 #23
Buried well below the lede... Hugin Jul 2023 #26
It is funny beer drinkers are like sheep. I remember when PBR was the beer nationally, doc03 Jul 2023 #24
Yep... Hugin Jul 2023 #28
I was drinking Coors Light, I tried Corona Light but I couldn't see any reason to pay a doc03 Jul 2023 #29
Guinness is best jonstl08 Jul 2023 #27
It shows exactly why their marketing was correct Johonny Jul 2023 #30
Narrow niche brand? Zeitghost Jul 2023 #39
Am I still allowed to not drink Bud Light because it's lousy beer? brooklynite Jul 2023 #31
Slash the price. These people have no principles. boston bean Jul 2023 #32
It has been damn near free since May Lurker Deluxe Jul 2023 #42
Even at the peak of my alcoholism tazkcmo Jul 2023 #34
Someday, there is going to be hell of a book written on this Showbizkid Jul 2023 #35
Nah, A-B's senior execs did this when they caved and pissed off the rest of us Arazi Jul 2023 #37
I dunno. Were urban hipsters really drinking Bud Light? Showbizkid Jul 2023 #38
Oh definitely not but those hipsters who would have supported AB in solidarity Arazi Jul 2023 #41
Kid Rock can go fuck himself for starting this bullshit. Initech Jul 2023 #52
I'd love to see the marketing analysis/demographics of all this. Duncan Grant Jul 2023 #46
Meanwhile, the guy that started the madness restocks his bar with it. Initech Jul 2023 #48
InBev isn't hurting at all. hunter Jul 2023 #54
June numbers for InBev's US brands- Bud Light Down, Others Up onenote Jul 2023 #55
Bud is not even on my list of options. I'm in Wisconsin Model35mech Jul 2023 #56
This is ForgedCrank Jul 2023 #60

hlthe2b

(112,662 posts)
1. How fickle is "image... Several times a month I drive by a nearby A-B faciilty
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 05:29 AM
Jul 2023

and always take a quick stop to see if the Clydesdales are in town in the pasture behind. I just hope to heaven that the nuts don't target them.

Mysterian

(6,151 posts)
2. They should put beer in quotation marks when discussing America's favorite beers
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 05:30 AM
Jul 2023

It's more like watered-down-get-drunk-juice for alcoholics.

hlthe2b

(112,662 posts)
3. Nah, we have one of the most vibrant micro-brewery cultures in the world.
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 05:36 AM
Jul 2023

No lack of good beer there.

Mysterian

(6,151 posts)
7. Which one is among "America's favorite beers?"
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 05:59 AM
Jul 2023

Those are the beers to which I referred.

hlthe2b

(112,662 posts)
53. The correct terminology would be "best-selling" beers. "Favorite beers" include the best micros
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 03:38 PM
Jul 2023

hlthe2b

(112,662 posts)
58. ...
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 04:35 PM
Jul 2023

and the correct response here really should be "you are right, hlthe2b" ... Sorry, not, but I think we DO create good craft beer in this country so I do take exception to your derision.

Retrograde

(11,371 posts)
50. When groceries stock an aisle of local
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 12:30 PM
Jul 2023

and small-brewery beers in a variety of styles, why would I bother with Coors or Anhaueser Busch or even any of the other big breweries? And if I feel like drinking something almost but not completely totally unlike beer, Lagunitas and other area breweries produce "hop water", an no-alcohol, no-calorie drink made with hops (it's fizzy and tart/somewhat lemony and is nice on a hot day)

Aristus

(71,574 posts)
36. And you have to drink, like, a 12-pack to even get a buzz-on.
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 10:29 AM
Jul 2023

That explains all the beer bellies in the MAGAt crowd.

If anyone were to tell them that a nice glass of Lagavulin, neat, would do the trick...

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
40. That's a great description. The members of my family* who love Bud Light are indeed alcoholics.
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 10:43 AM
Jul 2023

* In-laws and other assorted folks that I generally dislike and wouldn't bother inviting to Christmas dinner or a cookout, but that I must be polite to whenever I see them at weddings and funerals.

ProfessorGAC

(75,726 posts)
4. It Will Bounce Back
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 05:51 AM
Jul 2023

I predict that within 18 months those "offended" by A-B will forget it ever happened and be back to buying Bud Light.
Even Kid Rock will be back to buying it.

Mysterian

(6,151 posts)
47. I bought a 30-pack the other day
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 12:16 PM
Jul 2023

I have a neighbor who drinks that shit. It was the only stuff at the gas station in a 30-pack.

Buckeyeblue

(6,171 posts)
6. Bud and bud light are not good, IMO
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 05:55 AM
Jul 2023

I wonder if the protestors have discovered that? It's no longer about the protest, it's about the taste.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
12. Having spent time in Canada, our American beer really stinks. Moslon Canadian is
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 07:08 AM
Jul 2023


a superior beer.

genxlib

(6,077 posts)
14. Agree
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 07:35 AM
Jul 2023

Molson Canadian is one of the top mass market beers around.

In general, I will take a bad Canadian or Mexican over a mass market American any day.

Wednesdays

(21,550 posts)
45. Agreed.
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 11:12 AM
Jul 2023

And if I want a North American beer, I usually buy Labatt's Blue, as to me it's the closest to European types.

Oneironaut

(6,195 posts)
51. Craft beer is the real American beer.
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 01:40 PM
Jul 2023

Typical “American” beer is just corporate-created swill.

I urge you to try local craft beers. It’ll totally change your mind about American beer.

Mr. Sparkle

(3,602 posts)
11. I thought the right hated cancel culture
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 06:18 AM
Jul 2023

i must has missed the memo which said they've canceled that too.

Initech

(107,256 posts)
49. No they love them some cancel culture.
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 12:25 PM
Jul 2023

In the last 7 years no one has started more boycotts than the MAGA snowflake losers have. Hell they started like 12 boycotts in the last two months alone because of their anti-Pride hysteria. I want to think that someone is just straight fucking with them, but at the same time there's a good percentage of them that actually believe the shit that they hear on Fox News and social media.

 

vercetti2021

(10,481 posts)
13. Maybe instead of caving to the fascists
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 07:11 AM
Jul 2023

You should have doubled down on support for Dylan and the LGBTQ community. You fucked yourselves with everyone by caving and running with your fucking tails tucked between your legs and leaving Dylan out to dry for the trolls and psychotic fascists. You could have been fine with the non fascists and sane ones. But nope. You cave to a loud and violent minority and piss off the left at the same time.

Oneironaut

(6,195 posts)
15. "I'm sorry we involved that vile (t-slur). We'll try to work with only bigot-approved people in the
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 07:36 AM
Jul 2023

future!”

That what I feel like they’re saying. Bud Light is vile swill and it’s manufacturer is full of spineless corporate cowards.

onenote

(45,970 posts)
16. This is a YouGov survey. In terms of actual sales, Bud Light remains number two
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:12 AM
Jul 2023

Yes, it lost the top spot and its sales have continued to drop, but it still ranks number two, after Modelo.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/modelo-especial-tops-bud-light-125516137.html

onenote

(45,970 posts)
25. Not Anheuser-Busch, if that's what you're suggesting.
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:52 AM
Jul 2023

Modelo is not owned by A-B in the US. I know some think it is, but they're mistaken.

Modelo's ownership varies. In countries outside the US, Modelo is owned by Anheuser-Busch InBev. However, within the US, Modelo is owned by the New York-based beverage conglomerate Constellation Brands.

https://opoyi.com/business/is-modelo-owned-by-anheuser-busch-which-also-owns-bud-light-top-selling-us-beer-brands-origin-explored/

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
17. Bud light should have ran a commercial with their trade mark
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:15 AM
Jul 2023

Clyde's going through all neighborhoods and said we serve American and everyone in it. Make it real inclusive and Americana...it would have brought the boozers back.

Torchlight

(6,273 posts)
18. GOP Cancel Culture is as short lived and diaphanous as Conservative Family Values
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:18 AM
Jul 2023

in that its definition changes dependent solely on the target v. Aggressor, and any current boycott will be purged from memory as soon as it becomes inconvenient.

Last month the coworker tells me I'm unable to say one positive thing about Trump, so I respond "he's the most accurate representative of conservative family values in existence." At that moment, I'd guess her stink eye could be smelled from a mile away.

Hugin

(37,328 posts)
20. I think it was on it's way down anyway...
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:23 AM
Jul 2023

And this whole “boycott” thing is a cynical stunt to make the stunted deplorables feel empowered and relevant in an attempt to cash in on foundering brand of lousy beer that lost most of it’s fans due to COVID, not wearing masks, and horse dewormer.

Anyhow, that’s my take. YMMV.

moose65

(3,438 posts)
21. I don't know anything about beer, really
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:28 AM
Jul 2023

Before all this brouhaha, if someone had asked me what the best-selling beer in America was, I would have never guessed Bud Light!

I drink a beer once in awhile, but I don't think I've ever had a Bud Light. I like local microbrews. If I had to pick a "mass produced" beer, I guess I'd go with Corona or Newcastle.

I'm also a little ashamed to admit that I'd never heard of Modelo before this!

hatrack

(64,190 posts)
22. Faceless corporation pleads for us to think of the workers, or the children, or whatever . . .
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:32 AM
Jul 2023

And when the downturn continues, the same faceless corporation will cut jobs within the blink of an Executive Vice President's eye.

DFW

(59,697 posts)
23. I have always hated the taste and smell of beer
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:37 AM
Jul 2023

Not only do I not get all the controversy, it also apparently disqualifies me from being nominated by a Republican for the Supreme Court.

Hugin

(37,328 posts)
26. Buried well below the lede...
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:53 AM
Jul 2023

We see the real issue here:

Alissa Heinerscheid, the first woman to lead Bud Light in the brand's 40-year history…”



Gasp! It’s a woman in charge!

I can hear the lowbrows sputtering from here.

doc03

(38,796 posts)
24. It is funny beer drinkers are like sheep. I remember when PBR was the beer nationally,
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:49 AM
Jul 2023

Rolling Rock was a local favorite, another was Strows, people were paying a high price in the east for Coors. I never did drink Bud Light unless
it was free. Now it is in fashion to drink Mexican beer. I have drank Modelo, Dos xx, Corona, I couldn't tell you in a blind twist test one from to other
or even from Bud Light. Myself the only ones I really don't care for is IPAs but other people like them. I can't say they are not good but personally I don't like them. I don't even know what got the MAGAts all upset with Bud Light.

Hugin

(37,328 posts)
28. Yep...
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:57 AM
Jul 2023

The few times I ever drank Bud Light is because it was the ONLY beverage available and it was free.

doc03

(38,796 posts)
29. I was drinking Coors Light, I tried Corona Light but I couldn't see any reason to pay a
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 09:11 AM
Jul 2023

premium price for it, now it's Yeangling Light Lager. I know the Yeangling family are right wingers but it
is a product produced by US workers. Honestly if I took a blind taste test Icouldn't pick one from the other.

jonstl08

(532 posts)
27. Guinness is best
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:55 AM
Jul 2023

Was stationed over in England during the late 1980's and grew to love Guinness. When I came back to the states started drinking American beers but when Guinness started being available in my area I switched back to it. Drinking most American beers feels like drinking water now.

Johonny

(25,302 posts)
30. It shows exactly why their marketing was correct
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 09:11 AM
Jul 2023

Bud lite was losing sales status before any of this happened. They needed to try to broaden the appeal. It's pretty obvious they had become too narrow a niche brand. Unfortunately their attempts at broadening their appeal angered their narrowing costumer base. But the fact such a narrow base could so significantly hurt their sales, demonstrates how far they'd fallen as a brand prior to this year.

The most obvious thing is the company needs A) better products B) better marketing. It simply can't survive the Mexican import wave as is.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
39. Narrow niche brand?
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 10:42 AM
Jul 2023

They were the best selling beer in the country and are still number 2 despite a large drop in sales. If that's niche, what do you consider a mass market brand in beer?

Lurker Deluxe

(1,085 posts)
42. It has been damn near free since May
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 11:01 AM
Jul 2023

Bud Light has been running coupon specials since Memorial day which refunds almost the full price of the beer.

I was a BL drinker and when all of this first happened I did not give one bit of attention to it. Who cares was my typical response when at the local watering hole and someone commented.

I did not.

Then ...

They came right out and said that the brand was in decline because the drinkers of the beer were, "fratty and out of touch". The company came out and said we are not concerned at all because American BL drinkers are not even 1% of our global sales.

OK. Insult me, fuck you.

Now I do not drink it.

I actually drink a more expensive beer, Flight by Yuengling. Better beer, American made (actually the oldest brewer in America). The watering hole I drink at, where I have known the owners for over a decade, have gone from ordering 12 cases of BL a week to 1 case every 2. Overall sales are not down, the other brands have just picked up. The price has almost nothing to do with it, the commercials are openly mocked when they come on the TV. Straight up pandering, "A classic American" blah blah ...

Beer is beer and it is an acquired taste to begin with. Changing brands is a matter of drinking something different for a couple of weeks. The customer base has changed, it will take a long time for it to change back ... if ever.

tazkcmo

(7,419 posts)
34. Even at the peak of my alcoholism
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 10:23 AM
Jul 2023

I sneered at all Budweiser products. To put that in perspective, I drank a handle of Atomic Vodka just because of the name. As awful as it was, it was leagues above the urine called Bud Light.

 

Showbizkid

(118 posts)
35. Someday, there is going to be hell of a book written on this
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 10:26 AM
Jul 2023

The 28-year-old marketing rep who destroyed a massive global brand.

Arazi

(8,684 posts)
37. Nah, A-B's senior execs did this when they caved and pissed off the rest of us
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 10:38 AM
Jul 2023

If they’d stayed solid with Dylan and in solidarity with the folks who find homophobia repellent, they would have been fine.

As it is, the senior execs caved to the trolls and lost everyone else in the process.

Can’t lay all of this on the ad exec at all

 

Showbizkid

(118 posts)
38. I dunno. Were urban hipsters really drinking Bud Light?
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 10:40 AM
Jul 2023

I used to be an urban hipster. I wouldn't drink Bud Light to make a political statement.

Arazi

(8,684 posts)
41. Oh definitely not but those hipsters who would have supported AB in solidarity
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 10:45 AM
Jul 2023
IF they’d stood with Dylan, were lost as well.

For instance, when I have a party, I always have a light beer available. I would have bought Bud Light to have on hand even though I’ve never bought it before.

It would have become its own “thing” imo. A statement as it were.

Now they’ve lost that niche too that might have made the difference

Duncan Grant

(8,853 posts)
46. I'd love to see the marketing analysis/demographics of all this.
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 11:18 AM
Jul 2023

As I understand it, 60% of beer consumption in the U.S. is done by men; 40% of that is in the south.

Which markets have been most affected? Is the greatest shift occurring in urban or rural areas? Do beer consumers believe the can or bottle they hold in a bar signals something about their politics/attitudes?

If anyone knows where this discussion is occurring — could you let me know?

Initech

(107,256 posts)
48. Meanwhile, the guy that started the madness restocks his bar with it.
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 12:22 PM
Jul 2023

Kid Rock can go fuck himself. And so can the MAGA snowflake dipshits.

onenote

(45,970 posts)
55. June numbers for InBev's US brands- Bud Light Down, Others Up
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 04:09 PM
Jul 2023

Year to date change in market share 2022 v 2023:

Bud Light: 12.7% to 11.7%
Michelob Ultra: 8.6% to 9.5%
Busch Bavarian: 4.9% to 5.9%
Budweiser: 5.0% to 5.1%
Natural Light: 3.1% to 3.3%

https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/modelo-especial-tops-bud-light-most-sold-us-beer-second-consecutive-month-2023-07-10/

This doesn't include sales for various other InBev US brands such as Stella Artois, Landshark, Kona Big Wave (to name just three).

 

Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
56. Bud is not even on my list of options. I'm in Wisconsin
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 04:20 PM
Jul 2023

And although we birthed many beer making corporations...

Big corporate beer is really very low quality.

I'd much rather drink an in-state beer like Nutty-Squirrel or Spotted Cow.

ForgedCrank

(3,005 posts)
60. This is
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 04:39 PM
Jul 2023

my beef with economic terrorism.
Sure, it may damage a billion dollar companys bottom line for a while, but it can destroy the livelihood of a lot of people who have nothing at all to do with the bullcrap slinging back and forth. Those people are just trying feed their kids, pay their mortgage, and keep the electricity turned on.
I blame the boycott people as much as I do the company for inserting itself into politics. It's a silly and childish game that hurts real people.

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