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bigtree

(94,200 posts)
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 07:43 PM Jul 2023

Judge Cannon shouldn't be accommodating Trump's run for office in any way

...it's not the Court's responsibility to pave the way for an accused defendant to run for public office.

Trump chose to put himself in this position, knowing full well that he was at risk for more than one indictment when he announced his run for the presidency. He has a constitutional right to run for office, but he also has an obligation right now to the will and schedule of the courts which supersedes his ambitions for the presidency.

Trump can just drop out until his legal obligations are complete. No court should be made to account for, or alter their course for whatever he believes is his prerogative or need to perform in the election. At least that's what he said about Hillary Clinton:

Trump said in 2016 that a president under indictment would “cripple the operations of our government” and create an “unprecedented constitutional crisis” – years before he himself was indicted on federal charges while running for a second term as president.

Trump made the comments nearly seven years ago about Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential campaign.

“We could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and ultimately a criminal trial,” Trump said during a November 5, 2016, campaign rally in Reno, Nevada, reviewed by CNN’s KFile. “It would grind government to a halt.”

“If she were to win, it would create an unprecedented Constitutional crisis that would cripple the operations of our government,” he said. “She is likely to be under investigation for many years, and also it will probably end up – in my opinion – in a criminal trial. I mean, you take a look. Who knows? But it certainly looks that way.”

“She has no right to be running, you know that,” Trump said. “No right.”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/03/politics/kfile-trump-president-indictment-halt-government/index.html


There's no reason why a court should accommodate his presidential run, any more than he believed they should for Hillary. He may have the right to run, but no court should feel compelled to make that easy for him, or smooth out the consequences of his own actions which led him there.
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Judge Cannon shouldn't be accommodating Trump's run for office in any way (Original Post) bigtree Jul 2023 OP
Absolutely. SalamanderSleeps Jul 2023 #1
Best way to get rid of Trump permanently is.... at140 Jul 2023 #5
The best way to get rid of Trump permanently is to send him to prison. pnwmom Jul 2023 #9
Trump has evaded 1000 attempts to put him in prison so far at140 Jul 2023 #10
Where did I say it would be easy? His ego in 2020 didn't flatten like a pancake pnwmom Jul 2023 #11
She has already shown MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #2
The judges above her who stopped her before. emulatorloo Jul 2023 #3
11th Circuit. 2naSalit Jul 2023 #6
Right, but everyone has something 'else' to do, LIVES. elleng Jul 2023 #4
exactly bigtree Jul 2023 #7
K&R Blue Owl Jul 2023 #8
Exactly. Mad_Machine76 Jul 2023 #12
interesting how DOJ framed it today in their response bigtree Jul 2023 #13
100% true Mad_Machine76 Jul 2023 #14
Tomorrow's hearing will address scheduling LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #15

at140

(6,247 posts)
5. Best way to get rid of Trump permanently is....
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 07:51 PM
Jul 2023

To let him run in 2024 and lose big again.
If he is prevented to run in 2024 he will run again in 2028.

pnwmom

(110,254 posts)
9. The best way to get rid of Trump permanently is to send him to prison.
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 05:00 AM
Jul 2023

That would put a major crimp in any future political plans.

at140

(6,247 posts)
10. Trump has evaded 1000 attempts to put him in prison so far
Thu Jul 13, 2023, 11:37 PM
Jul 2023

why you feel that is so easy to do now? I think defeating him in 2024 election will flatten his ego like a pancake and he will disappear in the fog.

pnwmom

(110,254 posts)
11. Where did I say it would be easy? His ego in 2020 didn't flatten like a pancake
Thu Jul 13, 2023, 11:45 PM
Jul 2023

so I don't know why you think it would if he were defeated again.

That's not what malignant narcissists do. They thrive on attention, even if it's negative.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
3. The judges above her who stopped her before.
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 07:50 PM
Jul 2023
Trump suffers setback as appeals panel rejects Cannon ruling
The panel ruled that Judge Aileen Cannon erred.


https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/21/donald-trump-special-master-00058176

By KYLE CHENEY and JOSH GERSTEIN
09/21/2022 07:42 PM EDT
Updated: 09/21/2022 08:13 PM EDT
A three-judge appeals court panel has granted the Justice Department’s request to block aspects of U.S. District Court Judge Aileen Cannon’s ruling that delayed a criminal investigation into highly sensitive documents seized from former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate.

The panel ruled that Cannon, a Trump appointee, erred when she temporarily prevented federal prosecutors from using the roughly 100 documents — marked as classified – recovered from Trump’s estate as part of a criminal inquiry.


Trump “has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents,” the panel ruled in a 29-page decision. “Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents.”


More at link

Mad_Machine76

(24,951 posts)
12. Exactly.
Thu Jul 13, 2023, 11:50 PM
Jul 2023

Nor should the fact that he is fighting/expecting possibly more indictments postpone this one. If it renders him unable to run for POTUS, TS. He can’t blame anybody but himself for that. His past misdeeds seem to be finally catching up with him.

bigtree

(94,200 posts)
13. interesting how DOJ framed it today in their response
Fri Jul 14, 2023, 12:44 AM
Jul 2023

“The demands of defendants’ professional schedules do not provide a basis to delay trial in this case. Many indicted defendants have demanding jobs that require a considerable amount of their time and energy, or a significant amount of travel.”

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4096587-doj-fights-trump-request-trial-date-documents-case/

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