Another viewpoint on the WH cocaine story...

[WarGamer]

If the bag was found to have contained Anthrax powder... and the SS couldn't figure out where it came from or how it got there...

Would you bang your fists on the table and say WTF?

Frankly I don't care that it's coke or whatever... and it's irrelevant.

The problem is... one of the most secure buildings in the world and something like this happens?

[Showbizkid]

1. That's my viewpoint

I don't particularly care that someone brought blow into the White House.

I'm concerned you can leave it and not be found.

[Hugin]

2. The lack of any traceable evidence strikes me...

As an indication that it was planted to be found. I would think most stashes have at least partial fingerprints on them.

I am agreeing with you… How does something like this happen in what should be a secure area.

[WarGamer]

9. Yeah at this point, clearly looks planted.

Or a test run?

[Hugin]

18. Oh, I hadn't even considered that...

Interesting point.

[2naSalit]

17. +1

[B.See]

49. Bingo!

[zuul]

3. "Planted" is trending on Twitter and the consensus seems to be that it was indeed planted.

Here is one opinion: "As someone who has spent years clean from cocaine after it almost ruined my life, I can say with full confidence that no addict casually loses or forgets about their big bag of blow. You guard it with your fucking life. My money is on it clearly being planted."

Link to tweet

[Showbizkid]

6. Fine! Who the fuck planted it?

How is that a reasonable response to this?

[inthewind21]

39. Who shot JFK?

Exactly what happened to Amelia Earhart? How did terrorists on a no fly list get on planes, high jack them and fly them into TWC? What happened to all the WMD's in Iraq? In life, one doesn't get all the answers. In the scheme of things, this is trivial.

[Act_of_Reparation]

8. Oh, cool.

Well, if social media says it, it must be true.

[zuul]

16. I'm sorry that you don't understand anecdotes.

[Act_of_Reparation]

24. I do, actually.

[John1956PA]

10. Might be a plant. Or, the person who stashed it was afraid they were being watched . . .

. . . when it came time to retrieve it.

[zuul]

28. That is a possibility.

I wonder how big the baggie was. I have no idea how big a dime bag is.

[onenote]

29. It was less than a gram.

A gram is 1/28th of an ounce. Its a small amount.

[zuul]

31. Wow. That is tiny.

[inthewind21]

40. Understand

how it could be left and go unnoticed ? That bag is 1" x 1" maybe 1" x 2" at most. About the size of a half dollar coin. Walking into a crowded bank and leaving a little gem like that, intentionally or unintentionally would also be rather easily done with all the security and cameras. And no prints or DNA on the bag. Well that would be quite the stroke of luck if it was unintentional. In my opinion.

[Earth-shine]

46. Oh my! It's just a little toot. Ons good snort and it's done.

It completely figures that they would only leave a small amount behind -- just enough for it to be a big deal.

I'll bet the rest of the stash is long gone.

[underpants]

14. I've said basically the same thing on a couple posts

It’s no secret that the Secret Service and President Biden’s WH don’t get along so well.

[Martin68]

27. That was my first suspicion, that it was planted by a dirty right wing trickster working for

someone like James O'Keefe.

[former9thward]

33. LOL. The "consensus" of cocaine addicts?

There are millions who use cocaine recreationally who are not addicts and have not had their "lives ruined." The amount the SS found was .007 grams of cocaine. Which might be $2 at the most. This was not a "big bag of blow". And someone is not going to plant such a petty amount.

[inthewind21]

42. Really

Well, it's created quote the buzz and all the R's are howling and the media can't shut up about it. So I'd say if it was, it achieved the objective.

[Groundhawg]

4. That is the point, the only point.

[FakeNoose]

5. Somebody who had security clearance put it there

Does Hunter Biden have security clearance? I don't believe so, but even if he does ...

How do they show that Hunter was ever in the White House coatroom?

Hmmmm ....

[WarGamer]

7. If it was Hunter's blow...

Why would he wipe fingerprints and the last skin cell off the bag?

Clearly planted IMHO

[Showbizkid]

11. Ok. By whom?

Shouldn't we maybe find that person?

[WarGamer]

12. agreed... 100%

[inthewind21]

43. HOW

do you suggest finding them when there were 500-600 people through that area nothing blatant showing the act caught on camera and no prints or DNA on the bag?

[Showbizkid]

52. I dunno. Do some police work

It's a room where you know every single person and where every square inch is likely recorded.

Do some stuff.

This isn't a Safeway in Front Royal.

[onenote]

30. Why was it someone with a security clearance?

It was found in an area that is highly trafficked, transited by VIPS, visitors, tourists, staff members, military officials, and facilities operations employees.

[former9thward]

34. Tour groups do not have "security clearance".

[FakeNoose]

36. Tour groups don't get to walk around the White House unescorted

They're only allowed in certain pre-defined public areas and there should be tour guides with them at all times.

Also, there are 24/7/365 videocams everywhere that isn't part of the Bidens' private quarters.

[former9thward]

38. The coke was found in an area used for private tours -- not the normal public tours.

The private tours go to areas not normally on the public tour. And clearly there are not videocams everywhere or we would know the answer.

[FakeNoose]

41. Was Hunter Biden on any private tours?

Not likely!

[nolabear]

13. I think it may have belonged to a construction worker or a SS officer.

Distant as it may seem for most of us, cocaine use is not THAT unusual. Somewhere out there is someone who’s not copping to having lost their shit.

[allegorical oracle]

53. Yep. Could see that small bag dropping accidentally out of a jacket pocket or a wallet and the

person being unaware that it's gone. But it is possible that it's a plant.

[The Magistrate]

15. A More Likely Angle, Sir

In fact they do have usable video of a great many people in and out of the location. Had the powder proved a lethal agent, every person in those videos would be hunted up and questioned. Since it was only a small amount of a recreational drug, it's hardly worth the effort....

[dsc]

19. In addition the fact antrax isn't common

while cocaine is, also is part of the issue. Testing 500 people for antrax would likely lead you to the culprit and only the culprit if the culprit was among the 500, while testing 500 people for cocaine might give you 5 suspects.

[chowder66]

20. It makes financial sense to not pursue. Use the money saved for better security.

[Kali]

47. this

and I never read anything about the amount other than "small." hell yes a user could easily lose a tiny amount in a tiny bag out of his/her purse or backpack that was stuffed into a locker. might not notice until getting ready to take the next (possible last out of bag) hit.

I think both sides hunting conspiracies here are overreacting.

[Raine]

21. Totally agree. nt

[usonian]

22. Secret Service found no evidence.

USSC couldn't find the leaker.
Comer can't find the whistleblower (had to invent some more)

[Think. Again.]

23. I wouldn't put it past...

...someone in the media planting it just to develop a story.

They have fairly easy access to these spaces once they're known by security.

Do any media outlets seem to be running with this story suspiciously more than all the others?

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to start any silly conspiracy, I'm just expressing a possible scenario. I imagine there have been lots of things like this happening in all sorts of government buildings that we have never heard about. It all seems like a very silly thing to be taking up so many people's attention.

[Midnight Writer]

25. Or someone carried it in, got spooked by security, and ditched it.

[jimfields33]

26. I couldn't agree with you more.

I’ve mentioned in other threads that this unacceptable because it could have as easily been a bomb. There’s negligence at least on part of the secret service not keeping the White House safe.

[onenote]

32. It could not "as easily been a bomb"

Unless it was a bomb that was one or two inches square and made up entirely of materials that wouldn't be detected by a magnetometer and/or x-ray machine.

[inthewind21]

44. WOW

Now that's dramatic.

[jimfields33]

48. I reread mine. Horrible example for sure.

[Sympthsical]

35. They either know or didn't look hard

I'm also sure it's getting papered over because someone with even a little power or influence doesn't play by poor people drug rules.

Everyone's pretending like that's not a thing somehow.

I also don't care about it much. It's like #120 on my list of #121 things I care about this week.

I just think the whole "We have no idea what's happening in the most secure building in the world!" is a look. Call me cynical.

And the "What would you be saying if this were a Republican administration?" game pretty much plays itself. Wouldn't even need ChatGPT to write that one up. We know people's attitudes would be a lot different. If it were the Trump White House, it would be an article of faith it's Don Jr's. Just like what the Right is doing without evidence.

Partisans gonna partisan.

[inthewind21]

37. Well

After Jan 6th at the Capitol and now this, you sure about "most secure" building..." I'd say clearly not.

[doc03]

45. Someone planted two pipe bombs on J6 apparently

there was no prints or DNA on those either. Since it was known Hunter Biden was in DC I think it was planted. No finger prints or DNA but it served its purpose for headlines on Fox.

[Renew Deal]

50. Was anyone ever caught for the anthrax cases after 9/11?

[WiVoter]

51. I Agree

Kinda like when Jeffrey Epstein’s prison guards weren’t watching him and the cameras “ malfunctioned.”