920 days since Jan 6, the DOJ makes sure there won't be a second coup.

[ancianita]

Domestic terrorism is real. Enforcement data from the Garland DOJ prove this.

9 out of 21 cases were convicted or sentenced for the Jan 6 attack in just the last four days.

justice.gov, reports its enforcement.

Summary: in the 919 days since Jan 6, over

-- 1,069 people (more every single day) have been arrested across 50 states;

-- 311 have been sentenced for misdemeanors and fined at least $155,000 ($500 minimum per person);

-- 244 have been sentenced to prison for felonies and fined at least $488,000 ($2,000 minimum per person).
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

-- Jack Smith's United States v Trump & Nauta is only the beginning of hardened future enforcement of Rule of Law





The Garland DOJ and the Special Counsel, committed to ending domestic terrorism, personify facts and law.

[dem4decades]

1. Too bad Garland dragged his feet investigating Trump.

[ancianita]

2. Disagree. He didn't.

Look at #1 of this older summary of eight months of Garland's work before he appointed Smith as SC:

1.
THE GARLAND DOJ TIMELINE:

Mar 10 2021: Merrick Garland confirmed as AG by Congress
Mar 11 2021: AG Garland assumes office

Apr 21 2021: Deputy AG Lisa O. Monaco assumes office

May 11 2022: DOJ Grand jury convened until March 2024

June 3 2022: DOJ Grand jury subpoenas Trump for remaining docs in Maralago, lawyers for Trump "certifying" that there were no more;

July 22 2022: Grand jury testimony by Marc Short, Mike Pence’s Chief of Staff; & Short's counsel Greg Jacob

Sept 2 2022: Grand jury subpoenaed testimony by Pat Cipollone, (one of the participants in
a) WH meeting Dec 18 2020, that included Giuliani, Powell, Flynn, Patrick Byrne of Overstock,
b) Cipollone sat in on Jan 3 2021 DOJ official meeting with Trump, and
c) Cipollone was in direct contact with trump on Jan 6 during capitol insurrection, and did nothing when Meadows told
him Trump didn’t want to interfere with rioters calling for hanging Mike Pence)
and Patrick Philbin
Sept 15 2022: Mark Meadows subpoena for testimony and documents
Sept 2022: Garland DOJ has issued over 30 subpoenas to people close to Trump, which include
— Bill Stepien, DT’s campaign mgr; part of team to prevent certification
— Sean Dollman, DT’s campaign CFO
— Ben Williamson, Depty of Mark Meadows,
— Boris Epshteyn, DT’s lawyer, phone demanded; part of team to prevent certification
— Mike Lindell, phone seized
— William Russell, WH spec. asst to Trump, spec. aide to Trump in Maralago

Oct 6 2022: Greg Jacob second time testifying before the grand jury
Oct 13 2022: Marc Short Mike Pence’s chief of staff, second time testifying before the grand jury

Nov 4 2022: classified docs found in Biden’s Wilmington home (garage, library), (no docs in Rehoboth beach home) and
Penn Biden Center in DC (Richard Sauber is spec counsel to Pres Biden)
Nov 14 2022: Garland asks John Lausch (Trump appointed US Atty, Chicago) to review found Biden documents

Every update (June 6) before the abridged update (June 26) lists this timeline.


Too bad you want to say this about Garland, when it really looks as if it's you who's dragged your feet in keeping up with the facts of the investigations since May of last year.

[Fiendish Thingy]

9. A few important dates missing from your excellent timeline:

On April 21, 2021, the same day Lisa Monaco was sworn in, she authorized the seizure of multiple devices belonging to Rudy Giuliani. Defeating the encryption on those devices would take much of the next 12-18 mos (and I’m not sure all have been defeated)

A couple of months later, in June (?) 2021, Owen Shroyer, Alex Jones colleague at Infowars, was interviewed by DOJ. Shroyer was at the Willard Hotel “war room”. In the past few weeks it was announced that Shroyer had entered into a plea/cooperation agreement with DOJ.

The first publicly known DOJ grand juries were convened in February 2022, (but not publicly acknowledged until April/May 2022) immediately following the SCOTUS ruling against Trump’s Executive privilege claims. This ruling would make it possible to compel testimony, without delay, from Trump’s inner circle.

Thanks for all your efforts to keep the record straight about the publicly known facts of the DOJ’s investigations.

[ancianita]

13. Thank you!

The delay in when the public knows -- usually months behind when the DOJ acts -- exists for very good reasons.

Thank you for your valuable help, too. FT.

[Beastly Boy]

16. Too bad there are no drag marks made by Garland's feet that anyone can identify.

and in light of all the statistics in the OP, this remains nothing but an overused tired out-of-place metaphor.

[we can do it]

18. Too bad these whiny, factless posts still pop up.

[dem4decades]

25. "FBI resisted opening probe into Trump's role in Jan. 6 for more than a year"

By Carol D. Leonnig and Aaron C. Davis
Updated June 20, 2023 at 8:15 p.m. EDT|Published June 19, 2023 at 8:00 a.m. ED

"A Washington Post investigation found that more than a year would pass before prosecutors and FBI agents jointly embarked on a formal probe of actions directed from the White House to try to steal the election. Even then, the FBI stopped short of identifying the former president as a focus of that investigation."

Care to comment? Or is this fake news by the Post.

Factless?

Whiny?

Apologies will be accepted.

[we can do it]

26. Switching gears to FBI now....blah blah 😑 blah

[dem4decades]

28. Last I checked the FBI was in the DOJ. The DOJ opens an investigation, the FBI investigates.

".blah blah 😑 blah"?

That's insulting, how about some evidence proving the Post story wrong?

[Sky Jewels]

3. And yet so many of the Republican elected officials

who were in on the plotting have faced zero consequences.

[ancianita]

4. And yet

you have no idea why that is? Or if you do, you don't tell anyone why that is?

So I gotta ask, why is that?

.

[Sky Jewels]

5. Garland is afraid of being "too political."

[ancianita]

6. That's IT?

Well then, why not hear that from his own mouth. Read this, then tell me what he's really afraid of.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/10/politics/merrick-garland-january-6/index.html

[usaf-vet]

20. AG Merrick Garland says avoiding politically sensitive cases could 'undermine' the rule of law.....

...... COULD!!!?

Hey, from where I sit "avoiding politically sensitive cases could ‘undermine’ the rule of law."

I have news for you hesitating it already does undermine the rule of law.

For those of us that know we would be in jail already waiting for justice.

[ancianita]

23. You KNOW it's dishonest to say "we" would be in jail if "we" were president. Yes, you do.

Because "we" would not do what those Garland has arrested have done.

I've got news for you, too. You pose a hypothetical as an argument.
Dishonest and undermining those who support democracy and Democratic ideals, from where I sit.

Garland has neither been hesitating, afraid, nor avoiding.

what we must avoid is any partisan element of our decision making about cases,” Garland said. “That is what I am intent on ensuring, that the department’s decisions are made on the merits, and they’re made on the facts and the law. And they’re not based on any kind of partisan considerations.”

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/10/politics/merrick-garland-january-6/index.html


You truly don't know Garland or why he appointed Smith. It's so he can do more of this.


https://www.axios.com/2021/10/21/garland-justice-jan-6
https://www.axios.com/2022/06/24/merrick-garland-fda-abortion-pills-state-bans
https://www.axios.com/2022/08/30/merrick-garland-justice-department-employees-politics
https://www.axios.com/2023/06/23/merrick-garland-hunter-biden-irs-whistleblower

But hey, just imagine the worst from where you sit.

[usaf-vet]

30. Four generations of this family have worn the uniform of the the US military.

World War I Army Grandfather France

World War II USN Father
Eighteen months in the jungle on a radio intercept site. Intercepting German U-Boat transmission to triangulate their locations. To dispatch torpedo-equipped planes to sink them from attacking troops and supply ships who were resupplying the troops in North Africa.

Vietnam USAF 65-69 Medic

Iraq War Army Son and daughter

All four generations have taken the same enlistment oath. To support and Defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. We all continued to honor our oath until death relieved the responsibility.

The two generations who have died are buried in military cemeteries under the same USA Flag. Now in my possession.

I believe I/we have earned the right to question our government without breaking our oaths. Especially defending against DOMESTIC enemies.

[ancianita]

31. I respect and am grateful for yours and your ancestors' service.

It's a discussion thread. You've not only earned the right to question our government, but to baselessly judge it; you've also served to defend my right to challenge you.

"Question" away.
Just remember that insisting on the right to believe anything one wants -- whether it was about Obama, Hillary, Biden, or this DOJ's work -- without a shred of factual basis, is what got us domestic enemies, their oligarchic/media enablers and all.

Baselessly criticizing the only formidable domestic enforcer of rule of law in this country only helps domestic enemies who are, right now, weaponizing -- threatening the FBI, prosecutors, their families, threatening to defund the Justice Dept, etc. against it and our president and party that put it in place to handle this massive threat.

The domestic terrorist threat isn't going away. Undermining our best sources of enforcement is your right that in the short and long term doesn't help.


https://www.gao.gov/blog/rising-threat-domestic-terrorism-u.s.-and-federal-efforts-combat-it

[liberalla]

7. Yet.

...have faced zero consequences yet.

It's too soon to so certain.

[RussBLib]

15. Not yet.

As thorough as Smith seems to be, no doubt he is aware of those traitors. We all wish it was happening faster.

[MOMFUDSKI]

8. Would have preferred

they went right to the top at the beginning. The small fish could have been taken down like dominoes at a later date. Now we are up against an election season that DOJ knew about on 1/20.

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. Can you name any other prosecution of a large criminal enterprise that started at the top? Nt

[ancianita]

11. In fact, they DID.

It was both big and little fish all at once from the beginning.

IF you can't grant the DOJ being rebuilt from the gutting, politicizing and poisoning it went through under Bill Barr, then you conveniently ignore the reality of Garland's first 11 months -- cleaning up EIGHT major legal divisions AND getting confirmations for their heads, no thanks to rethugs.

THAT gutted department he had to face two months AFTER Biden took office. Because of rethugs.

THEN it was another month before rethugs confirmed his #2, because of rethugs, and
another 11 months before SHE could convene the first grand jury in May 2022.

For the interim, the FBI -- which IS part of the DOJ -- had already made over 500 arrests (which included militia groups' leaders) and a few hundred convictions.

[Beastly Boy]

12. And found not guilty because of reasonable doubt at their trials?

Sure, after that, the small fish would have been the only thing left to go after.

[ancianita]

17. As you might also prefer, the DOJ now has a 99.99% conviction rate for both top and bottom arrestees

[bringthePaine]

14. strange road, but Jack is gonna fuck over the refuKKKchicken beanstalk BIGTIME!🥳

[jaxexpat]

19. The miscreant still walks among us stirring the treason pot with not a care of the harm.

He will be the Republican nominee and who among the judicial fraternity will prosecute him when he attains that vantage? He'll run on what should, by now, be clear to all, the rallying cry which is an active assault on our government and way of life, "the big lie". He'll stand aside Biden and lie as if life itself depended on the absurdity of his candidacy and we'll be expected to just go, "oh my, and oh, well", when each of us is terrified that its possible he might succeed. The big, ugly, impossible nazi plague could still succeed despite our reliable old justice system calling those balls and strikes.

This was foreseeable long ago when the first act of the AG wasn't to arrest him and all his minions. That would be the move which could have gotten ahead of all this newsworthy baloney manufactured by a House which should be in Democratic hands. People will still ask me, "arrest him for what?" My answer is, "until he explains what his public Helsinki fling with Putin was about and why it shouldn't be grounds for imprisonment, he needs to remain in custody." I get that it's pretty much an expected thing when Republicans mangle international politics, but this was exceptional, even by the low standard set by "W"......... Then there's the grift.......it's always the grift.

I know, I know. That's not the way the system works. That sentence is self-expository and that's too bad.

[ancianita]

21. As you said, "I know, I know. That's not the way the system works. That sentence is self-expository

and that's too bad."

imo, cynicism about enforcing rule of law isn't a long term political strategy.
Neither is respect of ignorant questions about Trump's arrest, and disrespect for scale of enforcement that hundreds of thousands in the DOJ accomplish every day.

"That's too bad" is still the best on the planet. Whatever you know, try not to make the perfect the enemy of the good.

[jaxexpat]

22. Thanks. Sometimes I feel like we're on the edge a cliff in a high wind.

There are jackboots and the people who wear them.

[ancianita]

24. We're straight. I feel you, but fucking jackboots can fuck right the fuck off.

[malaise]

27. Great post

Rec

[moondust]

29. Breaking: QAnon Shaman regrets pleading guilty.

~
Since 6 January 2021, over 1,000 people have been charged over their participation in the riots, and almost half have pleaded guilty. But chatter on online forums and media coverage shows a small but growing number have started to have a change of heart. Emboldened by shifting views of the riots, some have sought to recast their actions, and even benefit from their notoriety.
~
Angeli has used his notoriety to boost his profile since exiting prison. He has a podcast, runs online courses and sells merchandise on his website - including selling $44 flags, $33 t-shirts and $17 mugs.

He is also back to spreading conspiracy theories online, insisting that he is only trying to spread the truth about a variety of government plots.
~
The 'QAnon Shaman' and other Capitol rioters who regret pleading guilty

[tritsofme]

32. And yet the whiners are still busy whining, and running around the field

moving goalposts.