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Nevilledog

(55,079 posts)
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 05:42 PM Jul 2023

RudePundit: One Reason for a Speedy Trial for Trump: We Need to Know If He's Guilty Before Voting

https://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2023/07/one-reason-for-speedy-trial-for-trump.html

Let us say, and why not, that you have a child, a son, at a local day care. Every morning you drop him off at, hell, let's call it "Little Tykes' Awesome School." You trust that they will make sure nothing bad happens to your son, and you've heard nothing but good things about LTAS. But then one day, you see something on your parents' group chat: one of the teachers has been arrested. You try to tell yourself that it could be any number of things that a teacher has been arrested for, but you're still freaking out. Then it turns out that it's the owner of LTAS who's been arrested. Jeremy Tykes was taken into custody after a parent told police that her daughter said...oh, shit. No, no, this is all rumor, you say. Then you get a link to a news story which says that there are video recordings of Tykes walking little girls into his office. Oh, fuck, fuck, fuck. You tell your boss you gotta go, jump in your car, and go get your son. After you pick him up and get him home, in a safe place, with safe snacks, you ask him if anything happened to him. No, your son says, nothing happened but he played with his friends and wants to watch TV.

After his arrest and arraignment, where he actually gets bond for some reason you can't figure out, Tykes says he wants his trial delayed while he looks for work. He hopes to get another job running a day care or at least working for one. Really, he wants to run the one that he had run already. It's what he's passionate about, he says. Besides, he says through his lawyer, he's totally innocent, and there are no videos of him doing anything to any of the kids, and if some of them say he did something terrible, well, those kids were coached because some of his co-workers were out to get him.

Listen, you know that false allegations have been made in these situations. You know there have been witch hunts that have destroyed careers. You know that, in theory, everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court. You know all that, and you believe in it. But, still, you fucking well know that that motherfucker shouldn't be anywhere near kids until his innocence is established. Right? And that trial better happen really fucking fast before he gets another day care job and perhaps fucks up the lives of some more children.

See, one thing I keep coming back to with the potential delays in the trial of Donald Trump over his weird use and abuse of classified documents is that we better fucking establish his guilt or innocence before he's allowed near classified documents again. I mean, in seeking an indefinite delay, ideally until after the 2024 election, Trump's lawyers write, "While the Government appears to favor an expedited (and therefore cursory) approach to this case, it cannot point to any exigency or urgency requiring a rapid adjudication. There is no ongoing threat to national security interests nor any concern regarding continued criminal activity."

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RudePundit: One Reason for a Speedy Trial for Trump: We Need to Know If He's Guilty Before Voting (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2023 OP
Trump's lawyers write, Abigail_Adams Jul 2023 #1
P.S. Abigail_Adams Jul 2023 #2
"Defendants are entitled..." And so is the government. Grins Jul 2023 #13
Absolutely. 100% need to know. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #3
There's this law in Florida, gab13by13 Jul 2023 #4
This is exactly why he doesn't want that speedy trial. All the more reason to let him have it! nt CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2023 #5
He is guilty as sin, only a Magat save him RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2023 #6
Strange. I would think Jack Smith appears to be one of the most civilized people on earth. erronis Jul 2023 #10
I don't think the trial will change things much. Mr.Bill Jul 2023 #7
I don't need to know that... Wounded Bear Jul 2023 #8
Old folks like me will think that's a bad analogy Warpy Jul 2023 #9
29 months and counting republianmushroom Jul 2023 #11
WE know he is guilty MiniMe Jul 2023 #12
 

Abigail_Adams

(333 posts)
1. Trump's lawyers write,
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 06:54 PM
Jul 2023

"While the Government appears to favor an expedited (and therefore cursory) approach to this case, it cannot point to any exigency or urgency requiring a rapid adjudication. There is no ongoing threat to national security interests nor any concern regarding continued criminal activity."

Oh, yes, there damn well is, and everyone except the MAGAs knows it.

 

Abigail_Adams

(333 posts)
2. P.S.
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 06:55 PM
Jul 2023

Defendants are entitled by the Constitution to a fair and speedy trial. But what about the voters? Don't they have a right to know before they vote in 2024?

Grins

(9,459 posts)
13. "Defendants are entitled..." And so is the government.
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 04:39 PM
Jul 2023

In this case, a big honking election!

It’s not just one-way.

gab13by13

(32,318 posts)
4. There's this law in Florida,
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 07:01 PM
Jul 2023

they call it the "Rocket Docket" - 70 days, not indefinite. Of course the 70 days isn't always adhered to but judge Cannon has no authority to grant an indefinite time limit. We shall soon see if Cannon is in Trump's pocket.

Voters need to see the traitor they want to make president, that's why a pre-election trial is important, the cockroach will be examined under a bright light for all to see.

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,619 posts)
5. This is exactly why he doesn't want that speedy trial. All the more reason to let him have it! nt
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 07:04 PM
Jul 2023

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,163 posts)
6. He is guilty as sin, only a Magat save him
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 07:08 PM
Jul 2023

and hopefully they won't


Jack smith is a savage, I would not mind if we filled DOJ with more people like him including the AG

erronis

(23,874 posts)
10. Strange. I would think Jack Smith appears to be one of the most civilized people on earth.
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 08:04 PM
Jul 2023

I know you might have engaged in *hyperbole* but it seems a bit off in this exchange.

We don't want savagery in the DOJ. We want intelligence and wisdom and following the rules of the land.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
7. I don't think the trial will change things much.
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 07:24 PM
Jul 2023

We know he's guilty and his fans will never think he is. I see a very large voter turnout on both sides in 2024 regardless of the outcome of any trials. Biden will clobber him.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
9. Old folks like me will think that's a bad analogy
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 08:04 PM
Jul 2023

because we lived through the day care sex abuse hysteria of the early 1980s. I didn't follow it all that closely until the hysterics behind the whole thing pulled Satanic sex abuse out of their fat asses. At that point I knew the whole thing was just another witch hunt, and it turned out to be just that after businesses were lost and lives were ruined, some going to jail over that horseshit until the kids were old enough to tell how they'd been coached.

However, point taken.

MiniMe

(21,883 posts)
12. WE know he is guilty
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 09:38 PM
Jul 2023

His die-hard supporters won't believe it even if it is proven and he is found guilty. Even if he admits it, which I believe he has already done.

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