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captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 06:15 PM Jul 2023

I think the issues to focus on that will motivate a lot of apathetic voters

Especially younger voters. Climate change - global warming, abortion rights, wages.

Older voters need to be shown how the rethugs are wanting to cut social security and Medicare. Most younger folks already believe it won’t be there for them anyway.

We shouldn’t dilute to messages with gay, trans, and other issues that don’t speak to as large a segment of the population. Not saying ignore it and we should let people know where we stand, I just think there are a lot of single issue voters that we really need to lock in. I get depressed when I talk to people who are listening to parts of the RW messaging but we. can’t counteract all the BS they spew. I think we need to really hammer a few issues with widespread appeal.

But what the hell do I know?

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I think the issues to focus on that will motivate a lot of apathetic voters (Original Post) captain queeg Jul 2023 OP
Really? Chi67 Jul 2023 #1
No, we can get a lot of republican votes, if we don't drown them Meadowoak Jul 2023 #2
I am okay with drowning Republicans. rzemanfl Jul 2023 #3
I am too, but I think we can get a lot of republican women votes Meadowoak Jul 2023 #6
I sometimes struggle with what I read on the Internet TexasDem69 Jul 2023 #8
I wasn't suggesting that at all. I meant too many issues won't get us there. we have to pick one Meadowoak Jul 2023 #9
Thanks and apologies TexasDem69 Jul 2023 #32
I think it was a flippant Bettie Jul 2023 #10
Does "anyone" include the CMF rzemanfl Jul 2023 #17
Y'know, I'd probably Bettie Jul 2023 #18
How far would I have to drive? rzemanfl Jul 2023 #16
Wow Chi67 Jul 2023 #7
Thank you. I think the OP's suggestion is obscene. Mister Ed Jul 2023 #13
There is a difference between supporting and campaigning. brooklynite Jul 2023 #19
Trains Chi67 Jul 2023 #21
Do you really think Biden has to TELL people he supports LGBTQ and the Republicans don't? brooklynite Jul 2023 #22
Yes! Chi67 Jul 2023 #23
... Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #29
See, MY theory is: it's more important to WIN the election in order to address the issue... brooklynite Jul 2023 #30
I'll bring water..n/t SheilaAnn Jul 2023 #4
I should have said this rather than that I would pay to watch. rzemanfl Jul 2023 #15
I am thinking KentuckyWoman Jul 2023 #20
To answer your question... johnp3907 Jul 2023 #5
I listed some issues that look like good campaign material. usonian Jul 2023 #11
Thanks! Chi67 Jul 2023 #12
You are not wrong, unfortunately some of the responses Cosmocat Jul 2023 #14
I think they need an effective message against the culture issues... kentuck Jul 2023 #24
The wonderful thing about digital marketing is the messaging can be individualized. SYFROYH Jul 2023 #25
Exactly! Chi67 Jul 2023 #26
The message for the next election should framed as Hotler Jul 2023 #27
Money will be spent where it can get the most votes. Prairie_Seagull Jul 2023 #28
Dismantling Trickle Down Economics Johnny2X2X Jul 2023 #31

Chi67

(1,281 posts)
1. Really?
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 06:21 PM
Jul 2023

I'm pretty sure we can focus on all the issues, not just some. We can't leave anyone out, that's how we lose. When you count all minorities and women, what do you have? The majority of the US. It ALL needs to be a focus, and I think it has been so far.

Meadowoak

(6,606 posts)
2. No, we can get a lot of republican votes, if we don't drown them
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 06:32 PM
Jul 2023

In gay/trans, gay wedding cake, bla blah blah. We need to concentrate on a few issues that hit home for the most people. We need a few good republican strategists on our side, that will keep us out of the muck. Abortion rights is our best issue.

 

TexasDem69

(2,317 posts)
8. I sometimes struggle with what I read on the Internet
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 07:38 PM
Jul 2023

You aren’t seriously suggesting that you want to watch Republicans die are you?

Meadowoak

(6,606 posts)
9. I wasn't suggesting that at all. I meant too many issues won't get us there. we have to pick one
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 08:41 PM
Jul 2023

or two, that effect the most people, I think abortion is that issue, I think a lot of republican women will cross over and vote democratic because of reproductive rights.

rzemanfl

(31,262 posts)
17. Does "anyone" include the CMF
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 07:00 AM
Jul 2023

a/k/a TFG? I adopted that acronym for "corrupt motherfucker" which is attributed to President Obama.

I want to outlive the CMF.

Bettie

(19,474 posts)
18. Y'know, I'd probably
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 07:03 AM
Jul 2023

not step in to save that one.

It probably makes me a bad person, but honestly, he is a human with zero redeeming qualities.

There are a few others I probably wouldn't cross the street to save, though, they don't actually walk around among us ordinary people.

CMF is an exception to any rule about humanity.

Chi67

(1,281 posts)
7. Wow
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 07:19 PM
Jul 2023

So throw us LGBT people under the bus when we have supported Democrats for so long? I guess I’m not surprised. Getting taken for granted once again. I guess all people’s civil rights are not equal.

Mister Ed

(6,880 posts)
13. Thank you. I think the OP's suggestion is obscene.
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 01:57 AM
Jul 2023

As I read it, the OP is saying that protecting LGBT rights isn't a winning election strategy, so Dems should keep quiet about it?

Obscene. I wish DU had a way to un-rec an OP. And no, I don't believe for a minute that the Democratic party will sweep LGBT rights under the rug this election year. That's being proven. In places like Minnesota and Michigan, where Dems have gained full control of the state governments, Dems have moved swiftly to support and protect LGBT rights.



 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
19. There is a difference between supporting and campaigning.
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 07:09 AM
Jul 2023

Do you remember a Biden campaign ad on Amtrak funding? No? Because there wasn't one. People know his general position on Amtrak and infrastructure. The idea is that your campaign message is framed around the largest group of voters, not that you don't support an issue that you don't campaign vocally on.

Chi67

(1,281 posts)
23. Yes!
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 08:11 AM
Jul 2023

Look at what’s happening! Look at what’s going on around the country. LGBT rights are being stripped from people in red states at an alarming rate. People are being intimidated into silence. You’re damn right politicians who support LGBT rights need to speak up! Otherwise, the right will just keep on hurting people.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
29. ...
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 10:01 AM
Jul 2023


We need to go on the offense, like pointing out how Nazi-esque and anti-Americans the Republicans have become. "Republicans want to take your freedom away." It's true, too.
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
30. See, MY theory is: it's more important to WIN the election in order to address the issue...
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 10:37 AM
Jul 2023

...rather than lose the election but make the base voters feel good.

Will campaigning on this issue win the swing States for Biden and the suburban toss-up districts we need to win the House?

usonian

(24,263 posts)
11. I listed some issues that look like good campaign material.
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 10:54 PM
Jul 2023

Last edited Mon Jul 17, 2023, 11:41 AM - Edit history (1)

Remember, keep it short and to the point.
People can't remember more than 4 or 5 things at a time. Some, 4 or 5 fewer.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18042278

Keep government from dictating what you read, your religion and your private life.

• The working person deserves a break rather than welfare for the rich.

• Americans believe in and defend the constitution because no American gains from harming another.

• Protect and expand medicare and Social Security so that health care is denied nobody.

• There is health, wealth and dignity for all when everyone pays their fair share.

• We fight for individual rights where others would deny them.

• America's needs are met by responsive, responsible government rather than contrived and fruitless culture wars.



YCMV (Your caption may vary)

Cosmocat

(15,375 posts)
14. You are not wrong, unfortunately some of the responses
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 04:16 AM
Jul 2023

Relay the problem w trying to directly go at this problem.

I have been saying for many decades now whenever our party allows itself to be drug into "culture wars" it loses WAY more than it wins. What has occurred during that time supports this position.

These battles very much favor Rs, who know it and work tirelessly to set them up.

But, a lot of our base wants these direct battles and it generates a lot of passion on our side, which feels good. But, when the vote counting occurs its fools gold because there just are more racist, misogynistic and hateful people who get motivated to vote in these battles than people of good spirit willing to cate about the plight of these folks to take the time out of their day to vote.

People over react to noting this with the throw them under the bus stuff, but that is a false binary frame. You promote true freedom and personal choice and the right of everyone to live the life they want to live, and fight for those who are being oppressed.

There is another reply just ahead of me that makes a similar point and relays better framing.

kentuck

(115,306 posts)
24. I think they need an effective message against the culture issues...
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 08:18 AM
Jul 2023

and all the other issues are in their favor. But they need to respond. For example, Republicans want to take away the freedom of women to control their own bodies. As for the trans issues, I think we should declare them as very personal issues that should stay out of the control of government know-it-alls.

Hotler

(13,746 posts)
27. The message for the next election should framed as
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 09:36 AM
Jul 2023

Democracy or, a fascist dictatorship.
Freedom or, rule by cruel, hateful religious assholes.

Democracy will be killed if they take power, then climate change, abortion rights and wages will never see the light of day.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,633 posts)
28. Money will be spent where it can get the most votes.
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 09:42 AM
Jul 2023

It will be tiered to accomplish same. IMO What the tiers are is debatable and where you live has it's own unique criteria. Nationally, keep it 'lofty' like usonian indicates. As constituencies get smaller be more specific.

IMO.

Johnny2X2X

(23,880 posts)
31. Dismantling Trickle Down Economics
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 11:00 AM
Jul 2023

Biden has started to use this language lately and I love it. Biden is taking apart Trickle Down block by block. He's done more for working class Americans than any President since FDR.

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