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Iran airport reports a heat index of 152 degrees F (Original Post) milestogo Jul 2023 OP
Heat index, not actual, but still whoa! Blues Heron Jul 2023 #1
Thank you. milestogo Jul 2023 #3
40 degrees Celsius (104 Fahrenheit) and 65% humidity muriel_volestrangler Jul 2023 #11
What have we done to the planet. applegrove Jul 2023 #2
Actually Timewas Jul 2023 #4
Yup. Meanwhile the right wing oligarchs think their money will applegrove Jul 2023 #5
We're dooming other species more than ourselves Silent3 Jul 2023 #6
That's only until they run out of Otto_Harper Jul 2023 #7
Global warming, bad as it, is not going to wipe out every available food source for humans Silent3 Jul 2023 #12
no guarantee of that at all Blues Heron Jul 2023 #8
We're far, far from Venusian levels of overheating Silent3 Jul 2023 #13
Nobody knows what the feedback loops will do, its silly to pretend otherwise Blues Heron Jul 2023 #14
THAT big a feedback loop problem can be ruled out Silent3 Jul 2023 #15
Are you a geophysicist? Blues Heron Jul 2023 #17
Are you? Silent3 Jul 2023 #19
True but Elessar Zappa Jul 2023 #16
who said anytime soon - the point is we are in uncharted territory Blues Heron Jul 2023 #18
Wow. Most jet aircraft can't take off in that heat as the engines don't produce enough thrust. machoneman Jul 2023 #9
It's the "heat index", which involves humidity, not the temperature. muriel_volestrangler Jul 2023 #10
Combination Timewas Jul 2023 #20

Timewas

(2,773 posts)
4. Actually
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 01:37 AM
Jul 2023

The planet will survive, humanity is on the way to extinction and we did it to ourselves.

applegrove

(133,038 posts)
5. Yup. Meanwhile the right wing oligarchs think their money will
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 02:25 AM
Jul 2023

still hold value when the world burns and people go bankrupt everywhere.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
6. We're dooming other species more than ourselves
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 03:07 AM
Jul 2023

Humans are too adaptable and resilient for climate change to cause human extinction. Oh, we might die off in hideous numbers, but nowhere near what it would take to cause our extinction.

Otto_Harper

(822 posts)
7. That's only until they run out of
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 03:58 AM
Jul 2023

edible plants or edible animals to sustain themselves. Remember, being adaptable is only part of the problem. Finding food and water is the other piece of the puzzle.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
12. Global warming, bad as it, is not going to wipe out every available food source for humans
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 08:49 AM
Jul 2023

Feeding 8 billion people could become very problematic. Feeding mere millions won't. This is not a human-extinction level problem.

Blues Heron

(9,016 posts)
8. no guarantee of that at all
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 07:20 AM
Jul 2023

That is a common retort but not sure it has any validity at all. We could end up like Venus for all we know

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
13. We're far, far from Venusian levels of overheating
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 09:40 AM
Jul 2023

You can take a serious problem serious without trying to out-compete each other on doomsday scenarios.

We've got a bad problem. It's going to cause many vulnerable species to go extinct. It will badly hurt humans, disrupt food supplies, displace many people, make some areas uninhabitable, but climate change is NOT cause human extinction or 900°F surface temperatures.

...At least not for hundreds of millions of years. The sun is slowly getting hotter, and this planet is screwed long term no matter how well-behaved humans try to be.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
15. THAT big a feedback loop problem can be ruled out
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 09:49 AM
Jul 2023

There's nothing silly about understanding there are reasonable limits here. We've had some pretty catastrophic events in the past which poured enormous amount of CO₂ into the atmosphere, and plenty of methane too, and Earth hasn't ever been anywhere close to becoming Venus.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
19. Are you?
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 10:11 AM
Jul 2023

I don't have to be a geophysicist to know that no reputable climate scientists are talking about, or worried about, Venus-like conditions occurring on Earth. We've got enough of a real problem to deal with without adding in absurd worries.

Blues Heron

(9,016 posts)
18. who said anytime soon - the point is we are in uncharted territory
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 09:59 AM
Jul 2023

its really quite silly to pretend otherwise.

machoneman

(4,128 posts)
9. Wow. Most jet aircraft can't take off in that heat as the engines don't produce enough thrust.
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 07:24 AM
Jul 2023

Unless they have 1/2 a fuel load and few passengers. Know it pales in comparison to the human factor but it is true.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,577 posts)
10. It's the "heat index", which involves humidity, not the temperature.
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 08:01 AM
Jul 2023

While the humidity may have a small effect on thrust (slightly denser air?), I doubt it affects it much.

https://www.weather.gov/ama/heatindex

Timewas

(2,773 posts)
20. Combination
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 01:04 PM
Jul 2023

Air density is the result of heat, called density altitude and it effects lift,bigger wings help along with speed and length of runway. Also depends on barometric pressure,altitude.

https://www.weather.gov/epz/wxcalc_densityaltitude

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