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Stinky The Clown

(68,952 posts)
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 12:36 PM Jul 2023

Michael Steele: (paraphrase) don't feel good that Motherfucker's rallies are more lightly attended.

That, in his opinion, is no comfort. He said there are MAGAts deeply embedded in local election apparatus in those states where it would matter. Many/most are flying under the radar.

When he said this, it sounded to me at first to be almost tinfoil-ey. On the flip side, I trust him and am assuming he still has lots of right wing contacts.

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Michael Steele: (paraphrase) don't feel good that Motherfucker's rallies are more lightly attended. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jul 2023 OP
Yes, I'm afraid Trumpism is bigger than TFG. Ocelot II Jul 2023 #1
We just gotta keep winning until Elessar Zappa Jul 2023 #4
Faced with dialing back their extremism to compete in ... Whiskeytide Jul 2023 #7
I just filled out my ballot for a local primary election. Aristus Jul 2023 #9
Great! Elessar Zappa Jul 2023 #13
The only way to win is to continue to fight. spike jones Jul 2023 #25
My concern has always been the Magots who are louslobbs Jul 2023 #12
When he is permanently stopped, as in dead, it may be like a bee hive without a queen. housecat Jul 2023 #19
"Permanently stopped" is OK with me. But maybe a new queen will move in, Ocelot II Jul 2023 #27
DeStupid thought he would waltz right in and take over tfg's hive. He failed, because tfg has a housecat Jul 2023 #28
trump openly gave the gop permission to be assholes dembotoz Jul 2023 #2
Not going back where? The magats have been assholes even before they were magats. housecat Jul 2023 #29
He's right. MAGA very well embedded locally here. But Dems are working to defeat them. bucolic_frolic Jul 2023 #3
didnt bannon have a plan to get volunteer election judges? mopinko Jul 2023 #5
Let's hope FF45's filmy, slimy luster is wearing off Blue Owl Jul 2023 #6
He is about to achieve MAGA martyr status on Friday or Saturday. Chainfire Jul 2023 #11
Steele knows. (imo) elleng Jul 2023 #8
I totally agree. He knows. Stinky The Clown Jul 2023 #10
Yes he does. I'd value his opinion on that subject. yonder Jul 2023 #17
I totally agree with him. CrispyQ Jul 2023 #14
I am worried about the 2024 election LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #15
And you should be worried. Stinky The Clown Jul 2023 #16
Good point. Orange boy has already won their "minds," Artcatt Jul 2023 #18
Trump is their Messiah. They are pulling out all the stops KPN Jul 2023 #20
Where's that trash button again? Butterflylady Jul 2023 #21
I[m seriously worried about local elections. Initech Jul 2023 #22
The radicalized Republican party has long been a conspiracy to seize power. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2023 #23
My fear for 2024 is that enough MAGATs are embedded in local Lonestarblue Jul 2023 #24
Exactly. Democracy is not a spectator sport as Thom Hartmann Artcatt Jul 2023 #26
Yes why manipulate voters when the GOP can manipulate the voting system. Irish_Dem Jul 2023 #30

Ocelot II

(130,516 posts)
1. Yes, I'm afraid Trumpism is bigger than TFG.
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 12:41 PM
Jul 2023

I'm reading Miles Taylor's new book, Blowback, and it's pretty scary. It discusses the ways MAGAts intend to insert themselves into all branches of government if TFG is re-elected (God help us), or even if it's another GOPer like DeSatan. Fortunately DeSatan is fading but there are plenty of others, and plenty of enablers at both the federal and the local level. TFG needs to be stopped, obviously, but even if he is, there are plenty of others out there.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
4. We just gotta keep winning until
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 12:47 PM
Jul 2023

the Republican Party realizes that they’ll never win another election again unless they dial back the extremism. And Democrats need to start competing better for small offices like school board, city councils, dog catchers, etc.

Whiskeytide

(4,656 posts)
7. Faced with dialing back their extremism to compete in ...
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 12:57 PM
Jul 2023

… fair elections as opposed to keeping their extremism and doing everything they can to make elections unfair … we’ll, I think I know where they’ll land.

Aristus

(72,178 posts)
9. I just filled out my ballot for a local primary election.
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 01:05 PM
Jul 2023

City and county. One partisan office, one non-partisan. I voted for the Democratic candidate in the partisan office, and for the non-partisan race, I voted for a very liberal and progressive candidate who will do great things if he is elected.

We're an entirely liberal Democratic household. Mrs. Aristus and our grandson tell me to fill out their ballots for them because they trust me to pick the right candidates. Then they sign them, and I drop the ballots off at our local county drop-box.

Vote in every election, no matter how small.

spike jones

(2,020 posts)
25. The only way to win is to continue to fight.
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 03:38 PM
Jul 2023

No matter what the gains regarding social justice, and environmental issues, there will always come along people to reverse them.

louslobbs

(3,416 posts)
12. My concern has always been the Magots who are
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 01:13 PM
Jul 2023

already embedded not only in our government, but in our military, police departments and court systems. They don’t intend to try and win, they plan to try and steal more power and continue to incite the cult. The only hope this democracy has certainly involves getting out the vote, but it also involves, somehow, removing the trump fascists from power. The reason they have embedded so many of these fascists into power is, they know they can’t win free and fair elections, so their objective is to steal more power. They don’t even pretend they want to govern, but rather, every move they make shows their intent to rule the country with force where necessary. If you can adequately rig the courts, governing bodies, local police departments, school boards, and heaven forbid, parts of the military, then governance by the people faces a real test. I hope the majority can come together and pass this test.

housecat

(3,138 posts)
19. When he is permanently stopped, as in dead, it may be like a bee hive without a queen.
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 03:14 PM
Jul 2023

Ocelot II

(130,516 posts)
27. "Permanently stopped" is OK with me. But maybe a new queen will move in,
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 04:47 PM
Jul 2023

which the GOP would be fine with so long as it's not a drag queen.

housecat

(3,138 posts)
28. DeStupid thought he would waltz right in and take over tfg's hive. He failed, because tfg has a
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 08:45 PM
Jul 2023

hold on brainless population that worships him. When he goes, nobody will or can take his place. It will be a different game, which is what we need.

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
2. trump openly gave the gop permission to be assholes
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 12:44 PM
Jul 2023

and they like it and are not going back

housecat

(3,138 posts)
29. Not going back where? The magats have been assholes even before they were magats.
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 09:01 PM
Jul 2023

They'll continue to tbe hateful losers with or without putin and tfg. But IMO if they don't have their leader to worship, the chaos they depend on will create factions.

bucolic_frolic

(55,129 posts)
3. He's right. MAGA very well embedded locally here. But Dems are working to defeat them.
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 12:47 PM
Jul 2023

But we are late defining the issue to the public, which does not focus on local politics. It's not on the news, it's not visible to them.

We need grass roots.

If we could just get some convictions of '45, the public would peel off a convicted felon. 4-7% each time.

yonder

(10,293 posts)
17. Yes he does. I'd value his opinion on that subject.
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 02:55 PM
Jul 2023

He knows how the plates are stacked and which cupboards they're in.

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
14. I totally agree with him.
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 02:04 PM
Jul 2023

It may take a bit of time, & IMO the person who takes Trump's place as leader of the deplorables is likely not even a face on the national stage yet, but MAGA will eventually coalesce around someone cuz their hate is on fire & they lust for revenge.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,822 posts)
15. I am worried about the 2024 election
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 02:11 PM
Jul 2023

TFG is better organized and we cannot assume that this will be another electoral blowout

 

Artcatt

(344 posts)
18. Good point. Orange boy has already won their "minds,"
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 03:07 PM
Jul 2023

which are really now HIS minds, which is really what this is all about.

..paraphrasing Agent Smith

KPN

(17,376 posts)
20. Trump is their Messiah. They are pulling out all the stops
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 03:15 PM
Jul 2023

and doing everything conceivable to ensure they take this election and save the Christian, white, one-for one and none-for-all America they know and love.

Initech

(108,772 posts)
22. I[m seriously worried about local elections.
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 03:21 PM
Jul 2023

We have to stop groups like Moms For Liberty at every possible opportunity. They can go get royally fucked.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
23. The radicalized Republican party has long been a conspiracy to seize power.
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 03:23 PM
Jul 2023
I think the women, therefore, must be concerned with these values, and I return to my statement that if a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1956-03-06


As a challenge, name "a cause that is right and that is moral" that the modern GOP is attempting to advance.

Lonestarblue

(13,475 posts)
24. My fear for 2024 is that enough MAGATs are embedded in local
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 03:27 PM
Jul 2023

election positions to cheat and throw county elections to Trump. How do we fight that? For example, a MAGAT in Coffey County Georgia allowed for Dominion software to be copied. Though they were caught, how many clerks in small counties now have the idea of secretly allowing software to be copied to manipulate vote tallies? Democrats can serve as elections observers, but they won’t be there in the dead of night.

 

Artcatt

(344 posts)
26. Exactly. Democracy is not a spectator sport as Thom Hartmann
Wed Jul 19, 2023, 03:43 PM
Jul 2023

so correctly says, but regarding magat infestation of election boards, what is our participation such that remedies that problem?

For magats it’s simple: stand down and stand by.

What do we have, besides the blogosphere?

Irish_Dem

(81,248 posts)
30. Yes why manipulate voters when the GOP can manipulate the voting system.
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 08:24 AM
Jul 2023

Much easier.

Trump's rallies are just fund raisers for him.

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