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getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 01:57 PM Jul 2023

Reminder - It's not Tubberville holding up nomintions, it's 51 votes in the senate

The rules Tubberville is abusing can be changed by a majority vote in the senate. All that takes is 50 dems, plus harris. We have 51 dems.

So clearly Tubberville is not the issue here, though he is certainly the cause. Sure, he could just stop being an ass and nominations and promotions could proceed. But he won't stop.

The rules can change, but he has the support of 50 other senators. (at least).

Think about that. Some of those 50 have a (D) next to their name.

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Reminder - It's not Tubberville holding up nomintions, it's 51 votes in the senate (Original Post) getagrip_already Jul 2023 OP
Don't forget to include Rand Paul in the asshole list as well leftieNanner Jul 2023 #1
Blame the Democrats - never fails AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2023 #2
If the dems can fix this, then yes...... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #4
Among the senators who wouldn't support a rules change: Bernie onenote Jul 2023 #3
at this point I don't care what their reasons were..... getagrip_already Jul 2023 #5
Riighht happy feet Jul 2023 #6
Future of the senate? getagrip_already Jul 2023 #7
The biggest danger currently facing the United States isn't Al Qaeda or the Taliban. Initech Jul 2023 #8

leftieNanner

(16,170 posts)
1. Don't forget to include Rand Paul in the asshole list as well
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 02:00 PM
Jul 2023

He put a hold on all State Department nominees. Ambassadors blocked from confirmation votes.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
4. If the dems can fix this, then yes......
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 02:28 PM
Jul 2023

The dems are not the cause, but they are a solution. If they refuse to act, they are the problem.

I wouldn't blame a fire department for a fire that was started by someone else, but I would blame them if they stood by and refused to put it out. So blame the fire department for the fire? sure.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
5. at this point I don't care what their reasons were.....
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 03:04 PM
Jul 2023

If we are willing to attack the repubs, we should be willing to solve the problem. Heck, they can put a time limit on it if they really want to make it temporary. Until the next election.

We need to get shite done. We can't be held hostage by a radical nonesense spewing hate brigade.

I could understand if it were ratioal dialogue with reasonable positions. This aint that.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
7. Future of the senate?
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 07:18 PM
Jul 2023

The senate rules have been fluid since it was first established. Even the fabled filibuster has not been a monolith since it was established.

Rules change to adapt to circumstances and the senate survives because of it, not in spite of it.

The quickest way to kill the senate is to freeze it in place.

Initech

(109,269 posts)
8. The biggest danger currently facing the United States isn't Al Qaeda or the Taliban.
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 07:32 PM
Jul 2023

It's the republican party.

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