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BaronChocula

(4,691 posts)
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 01:48 PM Jul 2023

Dear MSNBC (re Hunter Biden)

The Hunter Biden legal case only tracks with the maga cult. No one else cares. Hunter isn't on any ballot anywhere. Yes, the Republicans will harp on it. They were harping on it before. They weren't going to stop harping on it EVEN IF he accepted the plea deal. Your analysis that this is a crucial election issue makes me laugh. I'm sure that as the day goes on wiser guest analysts will agree with me. I'm betting the president agrees with me.

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Dear MSNBC (re Hunter Biden) (Original Post) BaronChocula Jul 2023 OP
I agree with you. I still don't understand what the Hunter Biden thing is? Polly Hennessey Jul 2023 #1
The "Hunter Biden thing" is simply this... Caliman73 Jul 2023 #10
My ears are still ringing BaronChocula Jul 2023 #12
She and Lemire were/are two of a kind PCIntern Jul 2023 #24
It's basically: Nice family you have there Joe. Shame if something was to happen to them. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2023 #47
People Are Obsessed With His Gigantic Dick? MayReasonRule Jul 2023 #36
It certainly should not qualify as Quakerfriend Jul 2023 #2
Well I Rebl2 Jul 2023 #32
MSNBC meets BillyBobBrilliant Jul 2023 #3
If MSNBC has time to cover the Hunter Biden story, PatSeg Jul 2023 #4
Totally! BaronChocula Jul 2023 #11
The low hanging fruit of high media viewership is scandal jaxexpat Jul 2023 #17
and not to mention BaronChocula Jul 2023 #37
It is a problem of artificial intelligence. jaxexpat Jul 2023 #43
I think budget concerns contribute, PatSeg Jul 2023 #38
Oh gawd yessss.... LakeArenal Jul 2023 #13
Jared Kushner received $2 billion from the Saudies & he was trump's SENIOR advisor. It wasn't AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2023 #5
Funny, when I speak to the Trump-ites BlueIn_W_Pa Jul 2023 #21
Yes! snowybirdie Jul 2023 #6
Remind me again of Hunter Biden's position in government? Kennah Jul 2023 #7
it's the new buttery males. mopinko Jul 2023 #8
Nevertheless, WTF is with Hunter's attorneys? They sure effed up. dem4decades Jul 2023 #9
I noticed that everyone but ABC was covering that but... TalenaGor Jul 2023 #14
I really do not give a darn about this case LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #15
So, MSNBC should only cover stories that liberals care about? brooklynite Jul 2023 #16
Of course not Leith Jul 2023 #19
Reporting on a Court session and legal development doesn't seem to be "harping". brooklynite Jul 2023 #25
Reporting is one thing--opining is another crimycarny Jul 2023 #27
Half of cable news is "opinion" brooklynite Jul 2023 #28
Rachel Maddow is an opinion show crimycarny Jul 2023 #39
If you demand "news only" programming, I suggest you turn off the TV brooklynite Jul 2023 #41
What are you even talking about? crimycarny Jul 2023 #48
Here, let us explain it to you in simple terms BaronChocula Jul 2023 #44
It received the coverage it received because there was a Court Hearing TODAY... brooklynite Jul 2023 #45
I did hear Andrea Mitchell say the 'Plea deals are rarely rejected' spanone Jul 2023 #18
They are when each side has a completely different understanding of them MichMan Jul 2023 #22
We have right wing news media and right wing media pretending to be liberal to appease us. twodogsbarking Jul 2023 #20
I'd say MSNBC is doing a poor job of being RW... brooklynite Jul 2023 #42
They need to stop letting the mAGAts dictate their content Warpy Jul 2023 #23
I turn on the news and literally count the seconds until they say the word "trump". IcyPeas Jul 2023 #26
My advice is for you to watch something other than cable news all day. tritsofme Jul 2023 #29
MSNBC daytime is all bothsiderism... dchill Jul 2023 #30
Exactly! LiberalFighter Jul 2023 #35
Hunter stopped being Joe Biden's responsibility decades ago. gordianot Jul 2023 #31
News is news. Even if we don't like to hear it. JohnnyRingo Jul 2023 #33
And for this stunt BlueIdaho Jul 2023 #34
What stunt? former9thward Jul 2023 #40
MSNBC "The Place For Politics " BidenRocks Jul 2023 #46

Polly Hennessey

(8,925 posts)
1. I agree with you. I still don't understand what the Hunter Biden thing is?
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 01:55 PM
Jul 2023

Some Media love the trivial.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
10. The "Hunter Biden thing" is simply this...
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 02:19 PM
Jul 2023

From the Conservative standpoint: It is a way to smear Joe Biden. Since they have no policy issues on which to attack Biden, they are trying to link his son's behavior with the Presidency, which from all accounts, have NO link whatsoever. It is a standard dirty trick from people who have no desire to govern, but want POWER.

From the Media standpoint: This is a juicy "horse race" or "conflict story". The media is CREATING the effect on the election that they are saying, "can have an effect on the election". They want ratings rather than to inform. I am sure that some think it is an important story, but it really isn't. The REAL story is why Republicans are trying to smear the President rather than focusing on policies they think will convince voters to choose them.

BaronChocula

(4,691 posts)
12. My ears are still ringing
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 02:31 PM
Jul 2023

from Chris Jansing opening her show every day with "INFLATION! BIDEN! MIDTERMS!" a year ago. Drama, drama, drama. Why do I still watch!

MayReasonRule

(4,136 posts)
36. People Are Obsessed With His Gigantic Dick?
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 04:56 PM
Jul 2023

I don't personally know as I have purposefully avoided viewing Hunter Biden's dick pic.

It's rumored as such...

Quakerfriend

(5,882 posts)
2. It certainly should not qualify as
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 01:56 PM
Jul 2023

breaking news. My thought as I listened to MSNBC was O.K., I guess more from Jack Smith is about to drop.

Rebl2

(17,897 posts)
32. Well I
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 04:23 PM
Jul 2023

felt it was because the judge rejected his plea deal. I thought the judge would accept the deal and she said no to it.

PatSeg

(53,378 posts)
4. If MSNBC has time to cover the Hunter Biden story,
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 02:06 PM
Jul 2023

then maybe they can find time in their 24/7 schedule to actually cover some other news as well. It seems they cover the same three, maybe four stories all day long. Then they bring in panels of "experts" as filler to rehash whatever story they've reported. If they need filler so badly, maybe they should look around and report "news".

And god forbid if some celebrity dies! Then apparently the whole world stops and that is the only story, sometimes for days.

BaronChocula

(4,691 posts)
11. Totally!
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 02:28 PM
Jul 2023

I wonder if it's because of lack of budget, lack of editorial imagination, or both.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
17. The low hanging fruit of high media viewership is scandal
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 03:25 PM
Jul 2023

That Biden has this "chink" in his narrative has a man bites dog attraction factor because his administration is rational, respectable and successful. In short, it's a 180 from his predecessor and the Republican party.

BaronChocula

(4,691 posts)
37. and not to mention
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 05:14 PM
Jul 2023

I feel the editorial class in the moderate news media feels they aren't being "fair and objective" unless they find things to be equally enraged over for "both sides." It can't possibly be a fact that Biden is more ethically and morally sound than any Republican in office or currently seeking office. They're afraid of seeming unfair to people who don't matter (Fox News Nation).

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
43. It is a problem of artificial intelligence.
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 06:23 PM
Jul 2023

I don't think editors ever even look at the dialogue/print above their names. I think they let algorithms do their jobs for them.

PatSeg

(53,378 posts)
38. I think budget concerns contribute,
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 05:22 PM
Jul 2023

but they also seem to try too hard to compete for ratings. In the process, so many actual news stories get sidelined. Right now I get email news alerts from both The New York Times and The Washington Post, and I'm shocked at how many stories never get even a mention on cable TV news.

I like a certain amount of commentary with my news, but it seems that in recent years, most of cable news is commentary. So we end up hearing the same story told from numerous different points of view over and over again. I suppose that could be both lack of budget and lack of imagination - it certainly comes across as rather lazy.

I used to watch hours of MSNBC every day, but now I rarely watch an entire hour.

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,173 posts)
5. Jared Kushner received $2 billion from the Saudies & he was trump's SENIOR advisor. It wasn't
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 02:07 PM
Jul 2023

for his investment skills which sucks, e.g.: his gross overpayment and economic disaster of 666 Fifth Ave.

 

BlueIn_W_Pa

(842 posts)
21. Funny, when I speak to the Trump-ites
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 03:35 PM
Jul 2023

and they say Jr Biden got $17 million,
I have to say well, just one Trump jr got $2000 million (because they generally don't get million v billion)

TalenaGor

(1,227 posts)
14. I noticed that everyone but ABC was covering that but...
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 03:01 PM
Jul 2023

ABC was covering the UFO hearing and OMG - so maybe they were trying to squash the significance of the UFO story?
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/watch-live-house-panel-holds-160732913.html

Leith

(7,864 posts)
19. Of course not
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 03:32 PM
Jul 2023

Neither should they harp on news that only magats care about.

Your posts seem very... uhh... interesting.

crimycarny

(2,098 posts)
27. Reporting is one thing--opining is another
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 03:59 PM
Jul 2023

To report what's going on in the Hunter Biden case is fine, but to state this may have "election consequences" is an opinion, not fact.

This is the whole "horse race" crap that the media loves, regardless of political bent. Ratings, ratings, ratings. With 7x24 news they have to over-dramatize everything.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
28. Half of cable news is "opinion"
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 04:01 PM
Jul 2023

If Rachel Maddow opined that it wouldn't have an impact, nobody here would be complaining.

crimycarny

(2,098 posts)
39. Rachel Maddow is an opinion show
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 05:27 PM
Jul 2023

Um...It's "The Rachel Maddow Show" for a reason. The whole point of Rachel Maddow's show is to give her own opinion/analysis/spin on current events.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
41. If you demand "news only" programming, I suggest you turn off the TV
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 06:07 PM
Jul 2023

Every MSNBC show includes opinions by experts, pundits, politicians, etc.

crimycarny

(2,098 posts)
48. What are you even talking about?
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 02:28 PM
Jul 2023

I believe my original comment was my observation that with 7x24 media competing for ratings, there is a tendency to try and create a "horse race" and over-dramatize issues for ratings.

No one is "demanding" anything, just making an observation.

Why so angry?

BaronChocula

(4,691 posts)
44. Here, let us explain it to you in simple terms
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 06:26 PM
Jul 2023

Is the Hunter Biden plea a news item? Yes.
Should it require an hour plus of uninterrupted coverage on non-Fox News channels? Absolutely not.

It is of some interest that Hunter Biden is in legal trouble. As of yet, outside of the fantasy realm of Fox et al, this really has no impact on the lives of Americans like, say, a reputed lying former president with a history of fraud (charities, universities) who tried to overturn an election because he didn't like the fact that he lost, and found himself under looming indictments for all of the failed rackets he put in order to prevent his rightful removal from office.

Of course, if you live in Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham's Hateville, where you're trying to convince everyone that there is such a thing as "The Biden Crime Family" then you would be thrilled to see as much coverage as possible of this inconsequential story that will have virtually no impact on the election, aside from it taking precious time from real issues during presidential debates.

So yes, I guess MSNBC should carry stories liberals care about since in my experience liberals care about all news items and the DU news feed reflects that. The context of the original post was in response to coverage overkill and infantile analysis. I hope this answers your question.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
45. It received the coverage it received because there was a Court Hearing TODAY...
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 06:42 PM
Jul 2023

I doubt you'll see the same focus tomorrow.

MichMan

(17,325 posts)
22. They are when each side has a completely different understanding of them
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 03:36 PM
Jul 2023

From an earlier post

U.S. District Court Judge Maryellen Noreika pressed federal prosecutors and Biden’s lawyers to come to some “meeting of the minds.” But that appeared unlikely, as the two sides said they did not see eye to eye about the precise terms of their own plea agreement. At one point in the hearing, Biden’s lawyer declared there was no deal.

twodogsbarking

(19,209 posts)
20. We have right wing news media and right wing media pretending to be liberal to appease us.
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 03:33 PM
Jul 2023

There is no reality.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
42. I'd say MSNBC is doing a poor job of being RW...
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 06:08 PM
Jul 2023

...considering all the pro-Biden, anti-Trump stories and opinions they allow.

Warpy

(114,650 posts)
23. They need to stop letting the mAGAts dictate their content
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 03:37 PM
Jul 2023

You're right, the simple tax case was settled. He's probably going to have to pay the IRS a bundle. That's old news and what the MAGAts are hyperventilating over is not news, at all.

IcyPeas

(25,718 posts)
26. I turn on the news and literally count the seconds until they say the word "trump".
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 03:58 PM
Jul 2023

Then I change the channel. I just cant take it anymore. I don't even get to the first mention of "Hunter".

Has any single human EVER been the topic of every damn news outlet for the past 9 years???

ENOUGH!!!

ENOUGH!!!!!!

Tune in to BBC world news. It's a little better.


tritsofme

(19,930 posts)
29. My advice is for you to watch something other than cable news all day.
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 04:06 PM
Jul 2023

It will do you good. I probably haven’t popped it on all summer.

And guess what? I missed absolutely nothing.

gordianot

(15,787 posts)
31. Hunter stopped being Joe Biden's responsibility decades ago.
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 04:18 PM
Jul 2023

By now Hunter knows whatever the charge in court he will have to pay and whatever privilege he had is gone.

JohnnyRingo

(20,971 posts)
33. News is news. Even if we don't like to hear it.
Wed Jul 26, 2023, 04:34 PM
Jul 2023

No media outlet is going to be scooped on a story just because it hurts people's feelings. I would be furious if MSNBC buried a topical story and I had to hear it elsewhere.

Leave it to the pundits to sort out the headline. That's their job.

BidenRocks

(3,453 posts)
46. MSNBC "The Place For Politics "
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 01:44 PM
Jul 2023

There is no misrepresentation. They do not do news. Just politics.
CNN does some news.

I agree that Hunter is as exciting as Benghazi.

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