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Heard on KATUTV tonight in Portland that Costco and Boeing are among Washington state employers who will not honor the new law that will allow possession of an once or less if perspective and current employees decide to participate in partaking. Both state as long as it is a Federal Law violation they will not allow it and even then they still will never allow pot smoker employment..
The employment issue may just be the next battled coming up if the FEDS decide to allow states to handle pot on their own.
gateley
(62,683 posts)libertypirate
(2,677 posts)six figure software engineering positions. Get to the pee test and cannabis is not acceptable even with valid doctors recommendation. I won't lie about it if asked but I don't volunteer and I avoid discussing generally, ignorance becomes intolerable when I am in a wretched state.
If I stop the cannabis medication it takes about a day for the spasms in my arm and back to start, and by day two the muscle starts to burn. My arm will turn numb in about a week and it will feel just like I smacked my funny bone perpetually. I discussed pain management options with my doctor and there are not any traditional therapies available for my type of trauma. For five years I lived and worked in utter disgusting pain that I only treated with cannabis medicine. It literally has saved my life.
It is a sad reality that I and many others face. It is hard not to be bitter watching people who sold you, stroked you up as their "new" guy. Then look down their nose at you for choices that have nothing to do with performance or competence.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)They managed to pass their piss tests
Angleae
(4,491 posts)They show up for work, their supervisor gives them the random test paper and signs it with the time. If they don't arrive at the testing center within a limited amount of time (ours are about 15 minutes) they fail. Can you get pot out of your system in 15 minutes?
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Angleae
(4,491 posts)I'm not sure where Boeing employees have to go except those working in the recently leased hangar at Paine Field (the clinic is literally across the street). Any failure is sent to the FAA and is noted on the company's record as well as the individual.
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I guess they could technically refuse you transportation, but it would really get messy afterwards (lawyers would get involved).
GiaGiovanni
(1,247 posts)I wonder if the ACLU would be interested in this.
WooWooWoo
(454 posts)alcohol is legal, but I'm sure there are rules against being drunk at work.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Drinkers are not a protected category.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)physical impairment.
rsmith6621
(6,942 posts)..... alcohol metabolizes itself out of your system overnight so does the pot you smoked three days ago make you a safety risk.. that is the question that has to be answered.
msongs
(67,430 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)can be detected for up to 45 days after you ingest it. Which means, of course, if you took a hit off of a pipe last month, even though the affects have long ago worn off, you could still test "positive" on a pee test.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)...and I just don't see that happening.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Please DC Circuit Court, pretty please.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I worked in the office of a construction company, and we couldn't have anyone who used any drug, including marijuana, because the insurance company wouldn't insure us. Is this something they just decided or is it prompted by an insurance company?
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)There is a shit ton of money in the piss testing industry on the line.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)simple a fix that would be ... but we never do simple solutions.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)I'M OUT!
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:10 AM - Edit history (1)
Smokers are not a protected class as far as discrimination goes. Residential property owners also often don't rent to smokers of any kind. Even if the federal law was changed to make pot legal, pot smokers legally could still be discriminated against in housing and employment.
edit for darn spelling.
roody
(10,849 posts)to be ingested.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Unless you are discriminated against for age, sex, race, religion or gender, employers can use any reason. Except maybe if you have a good union job.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)BlueMan Votes
(903 posts)I worked at United Airlines- and i was able to pass the pre-employment drug test, by abstaining for 2 weeks prior.
once that was behind me- it was heavy-toking as usual.
Angleae
(4,491 posts)The majority of Boeing employees are subject to such regulations.
BlueMan Votes
(903 posts)I have no problem with the people who build, maintain, or fly the planes being drug/alcohol tested.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)checking the local rap sheet, how would they know.
BlueMan Votes
(903 posts)so everyone has to assume that they will be tested next time.
btw- from what i've been told, the union agreement with the chicago police requires a 30-day notice of a 'random' drug test.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)The company really has no choice. If they don't maintain an active drug-free workplace policy based on federal law, they will lose billions in contracts and have to lay off tens of thousands of workers.
The only time I had to take a pre-employment whiz quiz was for a job at a financial data company that was a subsidiary of a multinational based in Canada that had contracts with the US DoD.
Call Congress right fucking now.
Angleae
(4,491 posts)These days it's one strike, you're out. Too many people testing positive would put the company's FAA licenses in jeopardy.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)They're heavily involved in federal contracts and ones that are under tight control of the federal government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Defense,_Space_%26_Security
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)As far as Costco goes, I'm not seeing the potential danger here. I'd bet the Pizza Guy, if he toked, would make the world's best pizzas.
BlueMan Votes
(903 posts)he's not.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)is the balloon trick, which is applicable only to women. I've heard of drinking lots of water so that you're needing to go the the restroom every 10-15 minutes and when your urine is colorless is when you take the UA. Other than that, do you know of any other ways that you'd be willing to share either on the board or privately?
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Costco, I cannot.
pstokely
(10,530 posts)nt
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Boeing- well if they make a mistake at work it could potentially kill alot of people.
mick063
(2,424 posts)That would light up a joint and hand it to me at work. There is the personal saftey factor to consider.
If it is that important to you, work for a guy like that or start up your own business and dictate your own policy.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Seriously, as a legal secretary/paralegal, I never had to pee in anyone's cup. It's such an invasion of privacy and totally uncalled for in most professions. Employers should only get involved in their employees' drug usage if that drug use is causing problems on the job.
dem4ward
(323 posts)No one would operate a vehicle, airplane, buss, truck, industrial equipment and or construction equipment while under the influence of ANY substance both legal or illegal.
Javaman
(62,532 posts)LOL
>wipes tear from eye< ahhhhh hahahahaha!!!
Honestly, really?
all line up in aisle 3 for the pee test!
Myrina
(12,296 posts)Coke and other designer Rx "mood alterers" can be alot more dangerous ...
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Everyone gets tested, including temporary employees.