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Zorro

(18,672 posts)
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 10:27 AM Jul 2023

Faculty turnover at New College 'not a loss for Florida,' DeSantis says

If departing professors were teaching “Marxist studies,” the governor said, “I’m totally good with that.”

Gov. Ron DeSantis on Wednesday shrugged off recent reports about high faculty turnover at New College of Florida, as the governor and other conservative leaders have sought to remake the small liberal-arts school in Sarasota.

During a speech at an American Legislative Exchange Council meeting in Orlando, DeSantis addressed higher education changes such as efforts to rid state colleges and universities of diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives. DeSantis said “we’ve seen a flood of applications coming in” amid the changes.

He pointed to New College, which has been filling positions that account for nearly a third of the school’s faculty. DeSantis appointed a slate of conservative members to the school’s Board of Trustees early this year.

“The media will say, ‘Oh, some of these professors are leaving, like New College. Like, isn’t that bad? Is that a brain drain?’ Well, you know, if you’re a professor in like, you know, Marxist studies, that’s not a loss for Florida if you’re going on, and trust me, I’m totally good with that,” said DeSantis, who has made education issues a pillar of his 2024 presidential campaign.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/07/27/faculty-turnover-new-college-not-loss-florida-desantis-says/

The damage DeSantis is doing to Florida will affect the state for years, if not decades.
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Faculty turnover at New College 'not a loss for Florida,' DeSantis says (Original Post) Zorro Jul 2023 OP
Hope he enjoys the fallout Mad_Machine76 Jul 2023 #1
He wants to make New College into a Hillsdale College clone. LastDemocratInSC Jul 2023 #4
Of course Mad_Machine76 Jul 2023 #6
The damage will outlast his reign dalton99a Jul 2023 #2
There are so many PhDs looking for jobs that they won't have any problems filling positions SYFROYH Jul 2023 #3
A visiting instructor is not a tenured professor crazylikafox Jul 2023 #5
You're correct. Typically Visiting instructors are untenured and paid less, but they are often PhDs SYFROYH Jul 2023 #7
The problem is the high cost of living Ghost of Tom Joad Jul 2023 #8

LastDemocratInSC

(4,239 posts)
4. He wants to make New College into a Hillsdale College clone.
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 11:04 AM
Jul 2023

The loss of quality faculty members just opens the doors up for hard right wing replacements.

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
3. There are so many PhDs looking for jobs that they won't have any problems filling positions
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 11:02 AM
Jul 2023

And some, maybe 10-20% depending on the field, are conservative and have no problem with the DeSantis agenda.

Oddly, they report 30+ faculty leaving for various reasons, but they only posted 10 visiting instructor positions.

crazylikafox

(2,920 posts)
5. A visiting instructor is not a tenured professor
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 11:06 AM
Jul 2023

I wonder if he’s trying to fill these positions with underpaid temps

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
7. You're correct. Typically Visiting instructors are untenured and paid less, but they are often PhDs
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 11:22 AM
Jul 2023

If these opening happened late in the academic year, it's normal to use a quicker, less stringent screening process associated with VIs to fill positions quickly. At my university, VIs typically earn about 60% of what new tenure-track Assistant Professor fetches.

What's interesting is that 30+ faculty left and only 10 VIs are being hired. Either the New College will be increasing class sizes by a lot or enrollment is way down.

Ghost of Tom Joad

(1,443 posts)
8. The problem is the high cost of living
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 11:59 AM
Jul 2023

It will be hard for any incoming newly minted Ph.D.s to afford the cost of housing. Of course, they could be paid an exorbitant amount of money or be provided housing. So good luck in filling those positions.

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