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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(14,235 posts)
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 05:57 AM Jul 2023

'Jackasses,' 'little s‑‑‑‑': GOP congressman Van Orden curses out teenage Senate pages

**note Van Orden is a J6er**

Rep. Derrick Van Orden (R-Wis.) is in hot water after he cursed out a group of teenage Senate pages in the Capitol rotunda early Thursday morning.

According to a transcript written by a page minutes after the incident and obtained by The Hill, Van Orden called the pages “jackasses” and “pieces of s‑‑‑,” and told them he didn’t “give a f‑‑‑ who you are.”

The pages are a group of 16- and 17-year-olds who assist Senate operations, and when the Senate works late — as it did Wednesday night on National Defense Authorization Act amendments — pages generally rest nearby in the rotunda.

“Wake the f‑‑‑ up you little s‑‑‑‑. … What the f‑‑‑ are you all doing? Get the f‑‑‑ out of here. You are defiling the space you [pieces of s‑‑‑],” Van Orden said, according to the account provided by the page.

“Who the f‑‑‑ are you?” Van Orden asked, to which one person said they were Senate pages. “I don’t give a f‑‑‑ who you are, get out.”

“You jackasses, get out,” he added.

The incident, which occurred just after midnight, outraged members of the upper chamber, with one calling the string of remarks “horrible.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/4123626-gop-congressman-curses-out-teenage-senate-pages/

WASHINGTON – Freshman Republican U.S. Rep. Derrick Van Orden reportedly yelled and cursed at a group of high school-aged Senate pages while giving a late-night tour of the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday.

Van Orden, who represents Wisconsin's 3rd Congressional District, called the pages "lazy s----" and told them to "get the f--- up" off the floor as the pages were lying on their backs in the Capitol Rotunda taking pictures of the building's dome during their final week at work, according to PunchBowl News.

Senate pages are typically high school-aged teens nominated by their home state senator to help out around the Senate side of the Capitol, opening doors for senators and delivering correspondence, among other tasks.

In an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Thursday, Van Orden did not dispute the report but rather noted the Capitol Rotunda was used as field hospital during the Civil War for "countless" Union soldiers.

"I would think that I’d be terribly disrespectful to lay on the grave of a soldier that died fighting for freedom," Van Orden told the Journal Sentinel. "And I don't know anybody that disagrees."

He added later in an emailed statement that the Capitol "should never be treated like a frat house common room. Threatening a congressman with bad press to excuse poor behavior is a reminder of everything that’s wrong with Washington. Luckily, bad press has never bothered me and if it's the price I pay to stand up for what's right, then so be it."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-rep-derrick-van-orden-yells-curses-at-teen-senate-pages-during-capitol-tour/ar-AA1es4Dt


GOP congressman says he's being 'threatened' with 'bad press' after screaming and cursing at teenagers in the Capitol late at night

Republican Rep. Derrick Van Orden of Wisconsin screamed at a group of Senate pages — high school-aged teenagers who work in the Senate as assistants — after coming across a group of them laying in the Capitol Rotunda on Wednesday evening.

One of the pages jotted down a transcript of the interaction shortly after it occurred, later providing it to The Hill after Punchbowl News first reported the interaction on Thursday.

"Wake the fuck up you little shits. … What the fuck are you all doing? Get the fuck out of here. You are defiling the space you [pieces of shit]," Van Orden said, according to The Hill.

"Who the fuck are you?" Van Orden asked. When informed that they were Senate pages, he reportedly replied: "I don't give a fuck who you are, get out."


It's not the first angry outburst by Van Orden, who traveled to Washington, DC on the day of the January 6 riot but has insisted that he didn't enter the Capitol. He once threatened a Wisconsin library staffer over a books display that included books that cover LGBTQ themes.

In response to the coverage of the late-night altercation, Van Orden confirmed that the incident occurred and issued a statement arguing that he'd been "threatened with bad press" for his outburst.

https://www.businessinsider.com/derrick-van-orden-threatened-bad-press-senate-pages-2023-7


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'Jackasses,' 'little s‑‑‑‑': GOP congressman Van Orden curses out teenage Senate pages (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2023 OP
The asshole has to pretend he's the victim, "Threatening a congressman with bad press to excuse r FSogol Jul 2023 #1
Why was he giving a late night tour of the Capitol? 2naSalit Jul 2023 #2
I was a Senate Page once DFW Jul 2023 #3
Same vocabulary MTG uses Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2023 #4
The same assholes who condemned Joe Biden just last week GoCubsGo Jul 2023 #7
Fucking idiot SEAL Aviation Pro Jul 2023 #5
And published author: GopherGal Jul 2023 #10
Van Orden definitely has issues... allegorical oracle Jul 2023 #6
Ah, he got got caught misbehaving. Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #8
I want to know how many of his J6 buddies he cursed at for defiling the Capitol with their poop. tanyev Jul 2023 #9
Nice job Wisconsin. Completely embarrassing our entire state AllyCat Jul 2023 #11
Have you ever heard of gerrymandering? Evidently not. elocs Jul 2023 #16
I am well aware elocs AllyCat Jul 2023 #19
Kind beat Van Orden by 10,000 votes in '20 & I think he saw the handwriting on the wall. elocs Jul 2023 #20
I understand all this. You've got some good data here AllyCat Jul 2023 #21
Family values. NNadir Jul 2023 #12
Thought little S..., was my name until I was 7. sarcasmo Jul 2023 #13
This is going to hit the news in a big way over the weekend. Prof. Toru Tanaka Jul 2023 #14
I hope some of those pages get even with that creep congressman. Paladin Jul 2023 #15
I hope Dems use this against him when he runs for re-election Mysterian Jul 2023 #17
The rotunda is not the grave of union soldiers lonely bird Jul 2023 #18

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
1. The asshole has to pretend he's the victim, "Threatening a congressman with bad press to excuse r
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 06:14 AM
Jul 2023

poor behavior is a reminder of everything that’s wrong with Washington. Luckily, bad press has never bothered me and if it's the price I pay to stand up for what's right, then so be it."

2naSalit

(102,780 posts)
2. Why was he giving a late night tour of the Capitol?
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 06:44 AM
Jul 2023

And to whom? And he has no right nor authority over Senate pages when he is not a Senator.

Who the fuck does he think he is?

What flaming asshole.

DFW

(60,182 posts)
3. I was a Senate Page once
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 06:52 AM
Jul 2023

I was a summer substitute for the regular year-round guys on vacation to their home states. I was 15, living in Northern Virginia, and my dad drove me to and from work, since his office at 14th and F wasn’t too far from the Capitol.

Those kids work incredibly long hours, plus the regular year-round ones have to complete their high school educations on off-hours or weekends. It’s an honor and a privilege to be chosen for the job, but if my two weeks as a summer sub were any indication, it demands a lot of stamina to keep from burning out.

For some alcohol-infused Republican Congressman to appear out of nowhere and yell obscenities at them is just beyond all limits. Kudos to the one who transcribed what the offending Republican said and dared to report it.

I’m sure the short term consequences will be someone from the Senate having words with McCarthy, who will “look into it,” and do nothing. But if this low-life is a first termer, maybe the local Wisconsin Democrats can make use of this to challenge him if it’s a swing district, or fund a primary challenger if his Democratic challenger had no chance.

GoCubsGo

(34,909 posts)
7. The same assholes who condemned Joe Biden just last week
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 07:29 AM
Jul 2023

for using salty language. Nothing but a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

Was that party in Van Orden's office a warm-up for one of the famous GOP cocaine orgies? And, yes. I believe Madison Cawthorn's claims about them.

GopherGal

(2,905 posts)
10. And published author:
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 08:08 AM
Jul 2023

Book of Man, A Navy SEAL's Guide to the Lost Art of Manhood

There's a whole lot of toxic just built into that title...

allegorical oracle

(6,479 posts)
6. Van Orden definitely has issues...
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 07:24 AM
Jul 2023

(Wikipedia)

On June 17, 2021, Van Orden confronted a staff member at Prairie du Chien Memorial Library in indignation over a display of books with LGBT themes assembled for Pride Month.

Van Orden was particularly upset by the book A Day in the Life of Marlon Bundo, about a fictional day in the life of Marlon Bundo, the real-life pet rabbit of former Vice President of the United States Mike Pence, and the rabbit's subsequent same-sex romance.

Van Orden submitted a written complaint to the library that the book was "skewing young people to think that Republicans are not inclusive. This book is not informational, it is propaganda".

A staff member described Van Orden as "very uncomfortable, threatening" with "full-on shouting" and "aggressively shoving the books around". He wanted to know who had established the display so he could "teach them a lesson". Van Orden subsequently withdrew all the books on display out of the library and then returned them within a week.

tanyev

(49,284 posts)
9. I want to know how many of his J6 buddies he cursed at for defiling the Capitol with their poop.
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 08:06 AM
Jul 2023

AllyCat

(18,840 posts)
11. Nice job Wisconsin. Completely embarrassing our entire state
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 08:16 AM
Jul 2023

What a nut. He was a nut when y’all decided to vote for him. Good grief.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
16. Have you ever heard of gerrymandering? Evidently not.
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 09:27 AM
Jul 2023

Wisconsin's 3rd congressional district was represented by a Democrat (Ron Kind) for 20 years. Geographically it had been a solid area but gerrymandered it had a long finger on it that added a lot of Republican voters to the district. So no, we didn't "all" decide to vote for him.

AllyCat

(18,840 posts)
19. I am well aware elocs
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 12:31 PM
Jul 2023

We went from Kind, to this nut. D3 voters put him in. Easy for me to say sitting in a packed D2 with the great Mark Pocan.

I said the same thing about the crummy Tom Tiffany in D7. Gerrymandering or no, idiot Wisconsinites said “yeah, I’ll vote for that!”

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
20. Kind beat Van Orden by 10,000 votes in '20 & I think he saw the handwriting on the wall.
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 03:23 PM
Jul 2023

The ones who voted for Van Orden put him in, but they were never going to vote for Pfaff anyways. Too many who would have voted for Pfaff never bothered to vote, a lesson that too many in Wisconsin didn't learn from 2010 when Democrats controlled state government but completely lost control to Republicans in 1 election election when too many on the Left became complacent and didn't bother to vote in the off year election.

There were 389,394 votes cast in that presidential election year. In '22 there were 72,000 fewer votes cast and Van Orden won by 12,000. So he lost by 10,000 in '20, won by 12,000 in '22, a turnaround of 22,000 votes. Where was Pfaff, a dud of a candidate, looking for votes in the final weeks? In the solid red rural areas that were never going to vote for him rather than getting out the vote in the larger cities and colleges where there were votes to be had.
When Democrats choose to self suppress their vote, bad things happen. The 3rd district was Democratic for 20 years. The votes are there to defeat Van Orden with the right candidate and that is not, not, not Brad Pfaff. Plus, the new Liberal controlled state supreme court may help out with the gerrymandering.

AllyCat

(18,840 posts)
21. I understand all this. You've got some good data here
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 06:03 PM
Jul 2023

I guess my point is knowing he’s a nut and there’s an alternative that is not a nut, Wisconsin Republicans say “I’m okay with a freak” and pulled the lever for this guy.

If the Dem candidate was a freak, we would work like heck to get a good candidate!

They gleefully vote for crap.

I am SOOOO looking forward to next week! The cases cannot come soon enough.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,926 posts)
14. This is going to hit the news in a big way over the weekend.
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 08:27 AM
Jul 2023

And by Monday, Van Orden will be changing his tune after a weekend of getting barbecued by the press and the social media over his behavior. All those bottles and that full garbage can shows there was a lot of drinking going on and Van Orden was probably pretty inebriated when he went on his tirade.

I expect a half-hearted apology where he'll try to play the victim in some way some time next week. This could end up like a mini soap opera especially if Mrs. Van Orden gets pissed off over the bad publicity and lights into hubby. Stay tuned!

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
15. I hope some of those pages get even with that creep congressman.
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 08:52 AM
Jul 2023

If they are anything like some of the pages I've known, most of them are smart and vengeful, and more than ready to settle the score with an asshole like Van Orden. Ought to be entertaining.

lonely bird

(2,940 posts)
18. The rotunda is not the grave of union soldiers
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 10:16 AM
Jul 2023

Fucking asshole. One wonders if his supporters carry confederate flags.

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