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Coventina

(29,731 posts)
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 01:12 PM Jul 2023

A property owner returns to CT, finds a new $1.5M house on his land. Now police are involved

For the last two years, the online land records page in the town of Fairfield has offered a “fraud alert” service. Anyone can sign up to see legal filings on their property. It’s part of the careful new world – but no one could anticipate the situation that’s unfolding on Sky Top Terrace, near Sacred Heart University.

Dr. Daniel Kenigsberg grew up in a house his parents bought on the semicircular street in 1953, when he was a 1-year-old. After medical school in New York and residency in Maryland, he and his wife raised their two children on Long Island, across the Sound from Fairfield.

Kenigsberg never lost his fondness for the town. For decades, he held on to a vacant parcel of just under a half-acre next door to his childhood home. His father had bought that land, also in 1953, directly from Eleazar Parmly Jr. -- the family that settled the area in 1716.

*** snip ***

On May 31 of this year, Kenigsberg received a call with bad news from a childhood friend still in Fairfield. His closest pal growing up was in a hospice in the town. And by the way, the friend mentioned, they’re building a house on the lot next to his old home.

They're doing what? "I said, ‘I own that and I never sold it,’” Kenigsberg recounted this week. “I was shocked.”

https://www.ctinsider.com/columnist/article/house-built-on-fairfield-lot-18261063.php

******************************************************************

What a nightmare!!!

Here's the listing for the illegal house on Coldwell Banker:

https://www.coldwellbankerhomes.com/ct/fairfield/lot-2-sky-top-terrace/pid_52933931/

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A property owner returns to CT, finds a new $1.5M house on his land. Now police are involved (Original Post) Coventina Jul 2023 OP
A beautiful home. I'd paint the house though. jimfields33 Jul 2023 #1
Sort of blinding white, but that's what sells those places Warpy Jul 2023 #47
Usually squatters can't afford a house like that Clash City Rocker Jul 2023 #2
Well it looks like the Dr. just got a million dollar home for free and the crooks behind it will ... Botany Jul 2023 #3
Wonder if "Kenigsberg" is now living in Nigeria. 3Hotdogs Jul 2023 #4
exactly. he sounds like a real prince orleans Jul 2023 #41
Thread drift. I actually know a Nigerian prince. His late father was village chief. 3Hotdogs Jul 2023 #59
that's cool; i was thinking of those stupid spamy emails orleans Jul 2023 #60
My thoughts too, if he wants the house. Seems like he wants to make a point a have it torn down. dutch777 Jul 2023 #13
Seems to me the local lawyer who got the P.O.A. from the man in South Africa seems more than ... Botany Jul 2023 #16
Yeah, those property tax records are crucial. TNNurse Jul 2023 #23
Part of the problems in 2008 were caused by the electronic title services plimsoll Jul 2023 #33
The "tear down" requirement is intriguing. Igel Jul 2023 #30
Unfortunately, there is no way to restore the property to its former state, Coventina Jul 2023 #32
He doesn't want a house. intheflow Jul 2023 #44
The attorney behind this is one of the three partners in the development company. hedda_foil Jul 2023 #56
And nobody bothered to do a search to find out who was paying the taxes Warpy Jul 2023 #38
They used his name so it would have shown intheflow Jul 2023 #45
It also would have shown his address Warpy Jul 2023 #48
Have relative who is a senior land title examiner. She has been talking about all the new frauds Attilatheblond Jul 2023 #58
holy crap. ecstatic Jul 2023 #61
Wow NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #5
It also stuns me that with the criminal case going on, the property is still listed!! Coventina Jul 2023 #7
The realtor will just add, " Buyer must move home. Quickly!" 70sEraVet Jul 2023 #18
:) Don't know about CT, but in CA the general rule is that if a Hortensis Jul 2023 #22
Ah, but they didn't steal the title. That's still in the name of the rightful owner. paleotn Jul 2023 #25
A must read. dalton99a Jul 2023 #6
I see a lawyer about to lose his license and maybe go to jail. ZonkerHarris Jul 2023 #8
Some title company is in BIG fucking trouble. (nt) Paladin Jul 2023 #9
That's what I'm thinking Bayard Jul 2023 #10
Egg Zack Lee Botany Jul 2023 #20
Title Search NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #11
UNBELIEVABLE. Stuart G Jul 2023 #12
I wonder if this is part of the legacy of the Robosigning scandal... JHB Jul 2023 #14
Most likely. plimsoll Jul 2023 #34
Love that diagonal open plan Sympthsical Jul 2023 #15
Based on the floor plan Old Crank Jul 2023 #28
"The useless living room" Sympthsical Jul 2023 #49
Wow SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2023 #17
Okay... Snackshack Jul 2023 #19
! Hortensis Jul 2023 #26
Common last names make it easier, but screw ups still occur. TNNurse Jul 2023 #29
Similar problem. plimsoll Jul 2023 #35
What a crazy story. Maybe the lawyer is the LLC and the Kenisberg in SA is a fake intermediary 58Sunliner Jul 2023 #21
Maybe he's a Republican. plimsoll Jul 2023 #36
These scams are becoming more commonplace. SouthernDem4ever Jul 2023 #24
Get off my lawn. twodogsbarking Jul 2023 #27
LOL! nt orleans Jul 2023 #40
This is unbelievable!! Sogo Jul 2023 #31
I like that idea. intheflow Jul 2023 #46
Or, they should be forced to move it.... Sogo Jul 2023 #52
Yes! intheflow Jul 2023 #55
Well, if Dr. Kenigsberg owns the land, it seems he's suddenly got himself a new house. Vinca Jul 2023 #37
POA bpj62 Jul 2023 #39
Why do I have the feeling johnnyfins Jul 2023 #42
Wow, this is so sad. n/t iluvtennis Jul 2023 #43
what's sad is the landscaping and lawn. It's crap for that price. Captain Zero Jul 2023 #65
Somebody is clearly living in that house EleanorR Jul 2023 #50
loved this description of Trump from the article: maggot-infected fungus overtaking his cranial lobe Hamlette Jul 2023 #51
Didn't the buyers get title insurance? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2023 #53
Wow, identity theft often has lots of conspiritors: Backseat Driver Jul 2023 #54
These things are happening more frequently. LeftInTX Jul 2023 #57
Someone did that on my BIL's brother's property. They went to check on the property and there sat a Solly Mack Jul 2023 #62
Assuming your BIL was eventually going to build, it worked out! Coventina Jul 2023 #63
They were eventually and it did work out. They loved the house. Solly Mack Jul 2023 #64

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
47. Sort of blinding white, but that's what sells those places
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 04:26 PM
Jul 2023

I'd want to fix that roof line, what the fuck is that gable doing on one end? It looks like they started a third floor, built the gable for the staircase, then ran out of money. Or that's when the real owner showed up and the builder went "oh shit."

It's not really that great, the rooms are pretty small for a yuppie barn. The staging is barely there to make the rooms look bigger. This is an investment house, something someone would buy, half furnish for weekends, and hold onto until it made a profit, then sell to somebody with more money than brains who would tear it down and build a bigger yuppie barn on the lot.

Except, oops, the lot was stolen.

Botany

(77,324 posts)
3. Well it looks like the Dr. just got a million dollar home for free and the crooks behind it will ...
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 01:25 PM
Jul 2023

.... get to pay all the taxes on it and maybe go to jail too. So somebody from South Africa using the
real owner's name gave P.O.A. to a local lawyer to sell the property. That lawyer, the bankers, the
real estate company, and the developers are going to be in a world of shit.

*****

"Town records point the way toward the story. On Oct. 18, 2022, Daniel Kenigsberg of Johannesburg, South Africa granted the power of attorney – the right to sign legal documents on his behalf -- to Anthony Monelli, a Trumbull lawyer. That same day nine months ago, a firm known as 51 Sky Top Partners LLC purchased the lot from Kenigsberg, or so the land records show, for $350,000."

3Hotdogs

(15,368 posts)
59. Thread drift. I actually know a Nigerian prince. His late father was village chief.
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 12:22 AM
Jul 2023

Nice guy.

orleans

(36,919 posts)
60. that's cool; i was thinking of those stupid spamy emails
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 01:23 AM
Jul 2023

people used to get (including me) about sending money etc.

dutch777

(5,068 posts)
13. My thoughts too, if he wants the house. Seems like he wants to make a point a have it torn down.
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 02:08 PM
Jul 2023

Will be interesting to see how it all plays out. I can see the builder having grounds to sue as well if he was not in on the land deal and thought there was clear and honest title held by his client.

Botany

(77,324 posts)
16. Seems to me the local lawyer who got the P.O.A. from the man in South Africa seems more than ...
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 02:37 PM
Jul 2023

... a little sketchy because the rightful owner of the property was living on Long Island and had been paying
the property taxes on the land and to transfer the title of that land should have meant a title search. Some-
body had to have done a title search of the property and gotten the rightful owners name and then hired
somebody to use that name in order to sell the property. I hope Connecticut's BCI or State Police and the
county's D.A. get on this. Would be of interest to see the lawyer's phone and or email history and see if
any of it is linked to Johannesburg, S.A..

It would be nice if the good Dr. to bulldoze the house down and make a little "pocket park" out of it.

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
33. Part of the problems in 2008 were caused by the electronic title services
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:42 PM
Jul 2023

Sounds like someone just figured out how build another scam out of those.

Igel

(37,535 posts)
30. The "tear down" requirement is intriguing.
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:32 PM
Jul 2023

Seems to me that it might just be a requirement--restore the property to the former state, deny any benefit that might be the basis for some sort of claim. (Not a lawyer here.)

At the same time, it might be a way to make the strongest claim possible because tearing that down will not be cheap, so waiving any right to it on the part of the defendants (or the actually guilty party or anybody else that might have some sort of claim based on the existence of the house) might be a way of escaping some of the monetary claims.

Or maybe the actual owner of the property is just pissed.

Coventina

(29,731 posts)
32. Unfortunately, there is no way to restore the property to its former state,
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:38 PM
Jul 2023

since they cut down all the trees that were there.

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
44. He doesn't want a house.
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 04:19 PM
Jul 2023

The article says the suit is calling for all structures to be removed from the land and the land returned to its former state. Basically asking for it to be reforested as the developers clear cut what had become a forested lot over time.

hedda_foil

(16,985 posts)
56. The attorney behind this is one of the three partners in the development company.
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 06:56 PM
Jul 2023

It's all the same scam.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
38. And nobody bothered to do a search to find out who was paying the taxes
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:53 PM
Jul 2023

and it clearly wasn't some asshole in South Africa.

A whole bunch of people are going to be in serious trouble and the lawsuits and counter suits are going to last years.

Meanwhile, the yuppie barracks will have to be dismantled and rebuilt elsewhere or sectioned and moved off the lot. Or struck by scammer lightning. Or just very expensively torn down.

He didn't want that monstrosity, he wanted trees. They razed the lot to build that thing. That's where the real damage was done, destroying mature trees and wildlife habitat.

Attilatheblond

(8,878 posts)
58. Have relative who is a senior land title examiner. She has been talking about all the new frauds
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 08:12 PM
Jul 2023

She is VERY, um, persnickety and diligent in her work. She also has had to deal with lots of realtors and escrow officers who are not only not diligent, they are lazy to the point of negligence or complicity with fraudsters. The insurance underwriters she works with LOVE her, as she catches all manner of red flags. Shysters are NOT so fond of her. Lazy escrow people who will go along with questionable or flatly wrong requests to turn a blind eye or just not do the basic fiduciary work their positions require if it means a commission, hate her because she insists THEY do their part of the job and she will not back down and let deals go thru until things are correct.

SO much fraud and so many newly legal ways to avoid doing property searches properly, gee, it's gonna be the rare case when fraud isn't a constant risk in real estate.

Look to pols who strive to 'cut red tape and eliminate excessive regulations' to find out how fraud is becoming so easy anymore. Look to corporations who want to cut payroll costs by allowing lots of rules to be bent and outright ignored.

Buyer beware is not even close enough to being a sound warning. Our culture seems to only be about profit and too many lawmakers are just fine with that as they pocket 'donations' and deliver legislation that questionable business people, industries give them to introduce as bills.

Want safe rules in society? Vote wisely. Currently, the crooks seem to own about 49% of the people in office making the rules.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
5. Wow
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 01:44 PM
Jul 2023

I’ve seen that infomercial about home titles being stolen. I figured it was just a moneymaking type deal. To actually see a case where someone stole a piece of land on paper is incredible.

Coventina

(29,731 posts)
7. It also stuns me that with the criminal case going on, the property is still listed!!
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 01:53 PM
Jul 2023

Buyer beware!!!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. :) Don't know about CT, but in CA the general rule is that if a
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:23 PM
Jul 2023

seller (or agent) doesn't want to disclose something they probably have to. I'm guessing this would qualify

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
25. Ah, but they didn't steal the title. That's still in the name of the rightful owner.
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:26 PM
Jul 2023

It's whoever is "toting the note", i.e. who loaned the money for construction, who's taking it in the shorts for lack of due diligence, fraud or both. For whatever title insurance doesn't cover, if there was any title insurance in the deal.

Botany

(77,324 posts)
20. Egg Zack Lee
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:15 PM
Jul 2023

"Where's the title search?" Considering the real owner lived right across the way on Long Island
and had been paying the property taxes on it for years.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
11. Title Search
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 02:05 PM
Jul 2023

When I’ve bought my homes and refinanced there is always a fee for a title search. I can’t believe a bank financed a new home build.

JHB

(38,213 posts)
14. I wonder if this is part of the legacy of the Robosigning scandal...
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 02:16 PM
Jul 2023

...and the way that screwed around with the chain of title. Even if this property was never sold, it could be a victim of unsavory practices that had a feeding ground in the wake of the scandal.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
15. Love that diagonal open plan
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 02:24 PM
Jul 2023

With the kitchen flowing into dining area flowing into living room. Don't like the TV over the mantle like that, tho. So awkward. Feel like I'd get a neck ache trying to stream something. Also, what is up with the lighting fixtures. The track lighting in the home office is turrible.

Considering I hawk Pepsi can wind chimes on Etsy for a living and my partner sells frogs to local circuses, the best we can do is $1.2 million.

Yes, what happened to the man's land is a shitshow. Hope he gets it back and more.

But I do like that floor plan on the ground floor.

Old Crank

(7,078 posts)
28. Based on the floor plan
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:31 PM
Jul 2023

The dining area goes to the family room. The useless living room is further back. 4000 square feet. Makes this a trophy house but this is just a bunch of white rooms and wasted space. I cook and I think the kitchen needs work. After living with drawers in my kitchen under my counters those doors would have to go. Same with the slide in gas range. Would want an oven higher up and space for a microwave. No real pantry foe a kitchen and house that large.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
49. "The useless living room"
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 04:32 PM
Jul 2023

Yeah, we have one of those. 3,400 square feet and there's two of us. It was a steal at the time. But there's like an entire half of the ground floor that neither of us nor company uses. Everyone congregates where the TV is. I think I can count on two hands the number of times I've actually gone in there and sat down in the past four years. We have bamboo floors, and I keep joking one day I'll turn it into a roller rink.

I agree with you about the white rooms and pointless space. I imagine the builders designed it that way so it would be easily customizable. I have so many questions about how that house is staged. Why is there a pseudo-desk in the sitting room like they're about to subject guests to impromptu job interviews?

Agree about the pantry situation. My kitchen has a separate walk-in under the stairs. And it's just like . . . what did I ever do without a pantry? Stuff food in the cabinets basically. So nice to have everything in one place. Agree about the stove. I do not like bending while cooking. Feels weird. Was going to make fun of the wine fridge in the kitchen. Like, why? We have one built into a wet bar (because Napa) that we never use. But using kitchen space for it seems so odd.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
17. Wow
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 02:44 PM
Jul 2023

I can't even imagine from either the landowner side or the attorneys, title company, etc. WTAF.

Snackshack

(2,587 posts)
19. Okay...
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:10 PM
Jul 2023

My last name is very common. I have had several experiences with confusion and wierd associations. When I refi’d my house I ended spending several weeks getting a bankruptcy I had in Texas cleared up so the refi could be done. Problems was I’ve only been to Texas a number of times just for a day for a Cowboys game then back home to Az at the time. I finally got this cleared up but I don’t know that I would have ever known a bankruptcy had been erroneously attributed to me if I had not refinanced the house.

TNNurse

(7,541 posts)
29. Common last names make it easier, but screw ups still occur.
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:31 PM
Jul 2023

I have a younger cousin who went to rent an apartment. He was told that there were police records on his background report. He went to research. There were minor financial discrepancies and some misdemeanors. He asked for the date of these records, they were from when he was 8 years old. His last name is Summerour. First name not simple like Bill or John. He showed them his ID and got the apartment.

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
35. Similar problem.
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:47 PM
Jul 2023

I like screwing with the debt collectors though. I usually ask them to verify my SSN, when they give it to me I ask if I can get both benefits, mine and the person with the name just like mine.

58Sunliner

(6,331 posts)
21. What a crazy story. Maybe the lawyer is the LLC and the Kenisberg in SA is a fake intermediary
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:19 PM
Jul 2023

and no money changed hands. The LLC pays the taxes on free land (if any are due),and then builds a house for profit. Here in RVA a cash sale is not taxed. It also shows as an invalid transfer on title with no name. Pretty slick if you can pull it off in short order. That would leave the original owner scrambling to prove he did not sell the property and that could take years. Hell of a gamble for the lawyer.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
24. These scams are becoming more commonplace.
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:26 PM
Jul 2023

County tax assessors and title companies need to up their game on verifying who the hell is transferring the title. It's far too easy for this to happen in my places.

Sogo

(7,191 posts)
31. This is unbelievable!!
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:36 PM
Jul 2023

Rather than forcing them to tear it down, though, they should make them move it to another lot and donate it as a homeless shelter....

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
46. I like that idea.
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 04:24 PM
Jul 2023

It would cost more to move it than tear it down, plus they’d forever know homeless people were living there for free as they serve jail time. Damn, a girl can dream, right?

Sogo

(7,191 posts)
52. Or, they should be forced to move it....
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 04:55 PM
Jul 2023

and have a drawing for a single mother with children.

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
37. Well, if Dr. Kenigsberg owns the land, it seems he's suddenly got himself a new house.
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:49 PM
Jul 2023

He couldn't be held for repayment of any mortgage because it would be a fraudulent mortgage. Guess this is what happens as banks go to automated appraisals where a human doesn't have anything to do with it.

bpj62

(1,067 posts)
39. POA
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:58 PM
Jul 2023

The attorney is where this starts and ends. First off this is what I do for a living and per our underwriter we are encouraged to have the seller come in and sign the deed in person because we want to visually ID them and review thier ID. It is common practice for Americans working overseas to go to.the American Embassy or Consulate to get documents notarized. The notary who witnessed the signing should have ID the person signing the POA. I bet they will find out that the notary was a fake as well. Sadly the builder and the new owner as well as bank lending the money all have claims but they will be in second position to the original owner.
I has seen a fair amount of fraud in this business but this one is a first for me. I am forwarding this article to our underwriter to use as an example of why not to accept POA for sales.

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
65. what's sad is the landscaping and lawn. It's crap for that price.
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 05:21 AM
Jul 2023

A few little bushes too close to the house.
Looks like a little seed was thrown out, grass is sparse. Most homes that expensive anywhere would have nice new sod, wouldn't they?
The one side literally dumps water on the neighbor.

Does this house have a FLAT roof over a portion of it? Or is it pitched to the back? Either way there absolutely NO photo of the back of the house or back yard/lot. Nor the full roof lines.

I'm guessing a lot of money laundering happened here.

EleanorR

(2,440 posts)
50. Somebody is clearly living in that house
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 04:36 PM
Jul 2023

A few rooms are obviously occupied and there's shampoo and such in the shower. What a weird story.

Hamlette

(15,556 posts)
51. loved this description of Trump from the article: maggot-infected fungus overtaking his cranial lobe
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 04:38 PM
Jul 2023

sort of describes what he did to the US. Full quote:

Trump insisted Rozelle wanted him in the NFL. Rozelle insisted he would rather have maggot-infected fungus overtaking his cranial lobe.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,236 posts)
53. Didn't the buyers get title insurance?
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 05:29 PM
Jul 2023

If they didn’t they deserve to lose every penny.

And if they did, the title insurance company will probably go out of business.

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
54. Wow, identity theft often has lots of conspiritors:
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 05:34 PM
Jul 2023

Brokers, notaries, title researchers, county officials who don't bother checking signatures on registered documents like Promissory Notes - that lawyer with the POA is definitely complicit in all this crazy story of people who should have known better, got a little bonus, or just plain did NOT do their job - a rolling cluster-you know what!

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
57. These things are happening more frequently.
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 07:11 PM
Jul 2023
https://www.expressnews.com/business/article/another-twist-s-a-couple-s-battle-get-home-bought-18168148.php

https://archive.ph/wno5t

Yet another twist in San Antonio couple's long-running battle to get title to home they bought

Robert and Karen Rickman have been waging a long legal battle to get ownership of a North Central San Antonio home they paid more than $400,000 for five years ago.

Despite an arbitrator awarding them the title to the house and land at 24442 Canyon Row and a judge entering the award as a court judgment, they still don’t have the keys to the property.

Now, the property has been listed for next week’s foreclosure auction.

Solly Mack

(96,943 posts)
62. Someone did that on my BIL's brother's property. They went to check on the property and there sat a
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 01:47 AM
Jul 2023

new house. Wasn't completed but it was down to finishing the floors in a couple of rooms. Little else. The wood flooring was in boxes and ready to go. Those two rooms and the final clean-up through the house. That's it.

Long story short - he got a new home free and clear. After the judge ruled in his favor.

The pirate homesteader even had to pay all court costs.

People do some fucked up shit.


Coventina

(29,731 posts)
63. Assuming your BIL was eventually going to build, it worked out!
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 03:28 AM
Jul 2023

I guess we have pirates on land, now


Yeesh

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