Enough b.s. about UFOs. Here's the reality.

[Cyrano]

There are many millions of planets in our Milky Way galaxy on which there is intelligent life.

The inhabitants of a few million of these planets have unified to create a broad, interstellar, sane society.

They engage in trade, peaceful relations, and the exchange of their countless art forms.

There are occasional minor disagreements that are settled through a direct voting process.

This interstellar community constantly monitors younger planets, (such as ours), as candidates to join them.

Occasionally, they come across a planet on which madness and war among the inhabitants is the norm.

Such planets are considered to be a danger to themselves and inevitably self-destruct.

But some of these planets, somehow, achieve space travel and are, accordingly, viewed as a virus.

And, therein, lies the answer to why UFOs are occasionally seen.

They are here to monitor us. They are here to issue any needed alerts to the interstellar society.

Yet, they know they need not be concerned with our early attempts at gaining access to them, or infecting them.

They know we will destroy ourselves before we can spread the virus that infects us.

To repeat, UFOs are here for the sole purpose of monitoring us. Nothing more.

(Please don't ask me how I know this. Just grant me a bit of trust here.)

[ZonkerHarris]

1. makes sense to me. We crazy

[peppertree]

75. Sad, but true.

[RKP5637]

2. Well said!!! n/t

[Fullduplexxx]

3. Ahhhh wuz wonderin who changed awww dem trump votes to biden

[Pantagruel]

4. No sane aliens

would have anything to do with us.

[Trueblue1968]

32. SANE ALIENS ???? Would they have 2 legs or four ???

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8080523776/h0380BCA3/i-come-in-peace-take-me-to-your-foods

[progressoid]

39. +1

[paleotn]

57. Alien - the short version.

That's just too good. And probably what would happen if Jones's momma taught him how to hunt.

[Trueblue1968]

64. CATS ARE ALIENS ;;;; LOLOL

[DemocraticPatriot]

100. Dogs have their points, as well.... nt

[Shermann]

5. Maybe we are just average in terms of wretchedness

So, half of the alien species out there are more wretched than we are.

[Danascot]

52. Aliens passing by

[area51]

77. +1 n/t

[ProfessorGAC]

6. I Know Your Tongue Is In Your Cheek, But...

...if they have the theoretical knowledge & technology to star travel wouldn't they be able to monitor us from a few million miles out while being 100% stealthy, given our state of technology?
Why would they have to do atmospheric level flights at their tremendous technological sophistication?
Nobody who is convinced we've been visited has ever given a good answer to those questions?

[Cyrano]

7. I see you've visited 41 countries.

Those who have visited 41 thousand planets would never question the reason for atmospheric-level observations.

By the way, golf is a huge mystery to them. They don't know why some chase a little ball around grassy surfaces.

[ProfessorGAC]

8. That's Up To Them!

I still want to know!

[Escurumbele]

40. OK, that is where I put my foot down...They don't understand Golf? Shame on them...Now, seriously

your post makes for a very good hypothesis of why some UFOs have been seen around our earthly sky. I also read a book that says that we actually come from aliens who inhabited the earth for many years, then they went back to their respective planets.

So many theories out there but so far, none can be corroborated.

[YoshidaYui]

50. i REALLY WONDER if they are not just TIME TRAVELERS

Coming back from the future to see how our civilization survived this period in time. Aliens maybe, but I think many of them are futuristic humans coming back to check on us.

[Marthe48]

93. You're gonna love this!

I never forgot it lol

I can't get the link to work.

B.C. Comic: It is daylight. Grace (aka Cute Chick) has a golf club, and is saying to B.C. "Let me get this straight. The less I hit the ball, the better I am doing." B.C. says, "That's right." And Grace says, "Then why do it at all?" Last panel is B.C. in the same spot with the moon shining. He is holding a golf club, staring at a teed ball, saying, "Why....do it....at....all...."

[DemocraticPatriot]

101. Half of us on earth do not understand that, either....

NOR WHY it is broadcasted on television....

:::changing channels::::


My dad loved to golf, and watch the golf shows on TV...
but I was never any good at it

(except for putting, my dad thought I was 'one hell of a putter' lol)

[intheflow]

9. Not necessarily.

When I see pictures or movies of places I’ve never visit and them visit them later, I gather much more information from being there than I ever had from travel guides. They may feel the same, and honestly, why hide yourself when you’ve got shields that can easily deflect our worst weapons?

[ProfessorGAC]

10. Because You Can't Crash At 5 Million Miles Away?

In addition, that answer doesn't address why they'd interact with the subject of their observations.
I also don't think your reading about/visiting analogy applies well to a species so much more advanced.
You'd learn nothing extra about bees by going into a hive and you can't get stung reading it in a book.

[intheflow]

12. Can they crash?

What if their tech allows the ships to bounce off Earth and immediately return home for repairs, like a cross between a bounce house and pneumatic tubes? No proof of crashed alien vehicles has ever been verified. 👽

[paleotn]

60. Don't anthropomorphize an alien species.

A sure sign of human arrogance.

[sanatanadharma]

13. As I understand, atmospheric visits are needed to release the pidgins

As I understand, atmospheric visits are needed to release the pidgins; the robots can fly but not in thin air.

[ProfessorGAC]

31. Wouldn't They Had To Have...

...come down first to get the pigeons?

[treestar]

33. Perhaps they don't need to travel here to

observe us, but they like to send vehicles here to see how we react to them.

They might be graduate students studying us like anthropologists, and it is research for their thesis.

[ProfessorGAC]

34. Best Explanation So Far!

Just to rattle us, huh?

[Beetwasher.]

45. Yeah, That's My Question

How did they crash and allow us to capture and/or kill them? And why would the aliens take any risk at all? I mean even WE use satellites, telescopes, drones, robots and more instead of actually going places. Doesn’t make sense.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

111. Could they just beam us up

And leave all the psychopaths ,narcissists ,republicans and christian nationalists, evangelical control freaks here? Rapture them away to a rocky dead planet with no technology to fight each other until extinction.

A lot of people here could do just fine in a kind ,just compassionate,cooperative society,we even wish it could happen here. I dont think these kind folks should be abandoned here.

[brooklynite]

11. OR (just spitballing) the distances between us and likely inhabitable planets is too far for travel

Doesn't make for nearly as interesting as Sci Fi story, but.....

[rickford66]

16. It used to take a couple weeks to cross the Atlantic. Who woudda thought we could fly someday?

[MorbidButterflyTat]

21. I'm looking

forward to teleportation. Then none of this will mean anything.

[brooklynite]

27. Unless you've found a way to exceed the speed of light (Star Trek notwithstanding)....

...its just not practical to travel multiple years if not generations...and certainly not in something the apparent size of the UFO blobs we keep being shown in photos.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

38. I suppose

you've never heard of time travel?

It wouldn't necessarily take multiple years or generations.

[DemocraticPatriot]

106. "Quantum Leap" was one of my favorite shows.... Remember "Ziggy"???

The handheld computer which 'Al' used???


Back then, 30 years ago, it was total science fiction...


but today most of us have a 'Ziggy' in our pocket, the smartphone....

It is impossible to imagine the technological advance we may make in the next 100 years--
but I think we should devote more resources to our space program...

[WheelWalker]

86. The Universe is what it is anyway...

We might conclude that the universe is a stranger place than we have sometimes been led to suspect and that the amount and type of strangeness each of us can tolerate depends, to some extent, on prior commitments. But the universe is what it is anyway.

[paleotn]

69. Extraordinarily bad analogy.

We've been crossing the Atlantic since Leif Ericson's crappy travel brochures. Even today, it takes decades to get a spacecraft just outside our stellar bubble.

Most of us really can't comprehend the distance from here to Proxima Centauri, currently our closest stellar neighbor, and the amount of energy needed to move an object from here to there in a reasonable amount of time. Even if you could harness that much energy, the General Theory of Relativity kicks in, i.e. everyone you've ever known has been dead for centuries before you get back. Bend space time? Well now you're talking a huge number of solar masses combined. Good luck with that.

It may simply be impossible, like traveling faster than light or going back in time. As good an answer as any for the Fermi Paradox.

[Renew Deal]

97. The one thing we should be mindful of is that we don't know what we don't know.

Other civilizations may be ahead of ours for a few reasons.

Longer time in existence
Different physical resources that are more efficient than anything known on earth
Different environmental and scientific conditions that make solving the problem of long distance travel easier
Completely different understanding of physics that are not yet known on earth (and maybe never will be without contact)
Different preservation methods that make things like hibernation possible for them

[brooklynite]

104. "We don't know everything" doesn't lead to "anything in possible".

If nobody here can establish a premise upon which FTL or multi-generational travel is possible, I won't be wasting my time dreaming about it.

[Renew Deal]

107. This assumes that another civilization perceives or experiences time the way we do.

The 24 hour day is a human concept limited to earth. Lifespans for creatures on earth vary greatly.

Anything is possible. Everything isn't probable. But limiting our thoughts of what's possible solely on what we currently know would be a mistake.

[brooklynite]

109. Believing something is true and THEN looking for evidence is equally flawed thinking.

[DemocraticPatriot]

105. Technologically, we've only just begun....

We only began to fly 120-some years ago.... about the same time with radio electronics, out of our thousands of years of existence here...


Yes, it is quite likely that there are other civilizations that are more advanced than we are,
although they may be very, VERY far away...



"God hope" they are more benevolent than we are...

[Renew Deal]

108. And it's possible we're getting attention because they've started picking up on our radio signals.

We certainly try to narrow down signals that originate off earth. It's logical that they would do the same thing.

[paleotn]

73. That's as good a solution as any to the Fermi Paradox

And one I tend to lean towards. Or intelligent life might be overrated, extraordinarily rare and spread across stretches of space and time too vast for us to comprehend. The most common forms of life may just be bacterial goo. That's earth for the vast majority of its existence.

[Quixote1818]

14. Until physicists can show a way to travel faster than the speed of light, this is doubtful.

Distances are just too far for regular visits as Carl Sagan explains. It's possible a few very advanced civilizations have sent out millions of drones to explore the universe but even if they find us, it would take tens of thousands of years to find out about us, then tens of thousands of years to reach us. It's possible the Earth was found millions of years ago and is being visited by these aliens for the second or third round but for that to occur at this moment in time is very low probability. My main issue is that we now have billions of cell phone cameras ready to film them and no one can get a good image? Why is it always some lousy infrared military image that pilots say was going super fast but when the numbers on the camera are plugged in it was going a regular rate of speed?

[edisdead]

18. You are talking about OUR physicists.

Our Physicists could be children compared to theirs.

[Quixote1818]

22. And yet they are crashing here on earth millions of years ahead of us?

We can't have it both ways. If they are as advanced as you say, we won't know they are here at all which I think is the most likely possibility. Not these bogus fuzzy images we keep getting shown.

[edisdead]

82. They are?

Where are they crashing?

[edisdead]

83. Also do us a favor

Next time there is an airplane flying over head go outside and take a picture of it and post it here.

Additionally, go take a picture of the skyline at night awith your cellphone and post that. See how those photos turn out.

[ecstatic]

113. oh yeah. It is difficult to capture an airplane or a chopper even with the best phone

I was trying to make a mini movie at the beach. The chopper was flying super low but on my phone it was like a tiny spec so I couldn't do it. I think a UFO would have to hover over an outdoor movie set where filming is in progress in order for the world to FINALLY get a good visual.

[edisdead]

118. exactly!

Now I am not trying to say ufo’s are real (alien ines anyway) or not, but people think that iphones or even consumer dslr cameras could just capture an object in the sky at full clarity.

Doesn’t work that way.

[ecstatic]

121. Maybe the flight to Earth took 15+ years or thousands of years

Depending on which planet they were coming from. Earlier today I looked up how long it would take to get to the hypothetical planet 9 / planet x and one of the estimates was 20 years. So perhaps, just like we're vigorously looking for information on a potential "Planet 9," the inhabitants of that planet have been desperately trying to find out about us? Or, if the UFO was from Proxima B, perhaps their flight here took 70,000+ years.

Assuming they're more advanced, but not advanced enough to travel using teleportation / wormholes, they sent off their astronauts a long time ago. This might explain a potential crash. Perhaps the astronauts were already dead due to some sort of malfunction on the ship (cryo malfunction)??

Maybe only one ship crashed, but they've had multiple successful landings thousands of years ago (which could explain the "ancient alien" phenomena). Maybe we are their descendants. 😮🤔🤯

[Irish_Dem]

25. We are a product of our time and place.

It is hard for humans to think outside of our constraints and limitations.

[Disaffected]

51. Unfortunately some find it

all too easy. Such is one of the geneses of irrational belief.

[edisdead]

15. John Titor is that you?

[Celerity]

84. Timetravel_0 (2009)

[edisdead]

96. hahaha yep!

[anciano]

17. Interesting hypothesis....

but my sources cannot confirm at this time.

[cyclonefence]

19. Why do we assume that "intelligent life"

means creatures like us?

[Irish_Dem]

61. We cannot get beyond being human centric, earth centric.

All intelligent life will be in humanoid form.
All livable planets for sentient life forms will be like Earth.

[Danascot]

110. There are theorists

who propose that machine intelligence may be the dominant 'life' form in the universe. Look at where we are now with AI, and where it could go in the future.

[brooklynite]

102. Who is assuming that?

Nobody is questioning the TYPE of alien life; they're questioning the ability to transcend the laws of physics in a practical way.

[cyclonefence]

117. It's just that phrase "intelligent life-forms"

puzzles me.

Maybe two hundred years ago--before we understood about dolphins, elephants, trees, even fungi and viruses--we considered ourselves the only forms of intelligent life on earth. We have learned that every life form we investigate here seems to communicate, form attachments, feel pain and other "human" emotions--I just wonder what other senses, etc.--things we are unable to imagine--exist in the endless boundaries of space. I think it's presumptuous of humans that we imagine ourselves as the standards by which to judge "intelligent life" when our imaginations are so limited that when we imagine alien beings, they are basically humanoid in form with their superior intellects merely exaggerations of what we know about our own brains and emotions.

[ecstatic]

114. If true, that would blow the big bang theory out the window

There's no fucking way for a big bang to be duplicated with the same end result on multiple planets. lol. No way. Actually, it would disrupt a lot of theories of how things came to be.

[MOMFUDSKI]

20. Nailed it!

We can’t be so presumptuous as to think our planet is the only one with life on it in this vast universe. They will communicate when we are worthy. Thanks for your common sense.

[Rafi]

36. Do you have kids?

Do you correct them when they are worthy, or when they f up?

[Disaffected]

53. I don't think anyone here thinks

our planet is the only one with life on it in this vast universe. The actual issue is whether or not such possible life has been detected and, for now at least, the answer is a resounding No (blurry blobs on cockpit screens and anecdotal "evidence" not withstanding).

[Xavier Breath]

23. And all this time I thought the monitoring was because Mars needs women.

[Irish_Dem]

24. The rest of the Universe put yellow police tape around our solar system.

Active crime scene.

[Rafi]

26. Occasionally seen? There are tens of thousands of reports every year in the US.

If you count sightings worldwide it increases to hundreds of thousands. No doubt they are monitoring us, but there is a evidence that it is much more than that.

It's not a chance happening that the number of sightings increased exponentially after we exploded nuclear weapons. It is also a fact, and the files are open, because of FOIA requests, that UFOs have shutdown our nuclear weapons while hovering above them. This has also happened in the old Soviet union and in one case made the missiles ready to launch. All of this is documented for anyone to read.

Anyone claiming to have the entire truth regarding this phenomenon is guaranteed to be blowing smoke.

Make of this what you will. An article from The Jerusalem Post.:

Has the State of Israel made contact with aliens?

According to retired Israeli officer and current professor Haim Eshed, the answer is yes, but this has been kept a secret because "humanity isn't ready."
Speaking in an interview to Yediot Aharonot, Eshed – who served as the head of Israel's space program for nearly 30 years and is a three-time recipient of the Israel Security Award – explained that Israel and the US have both been dealing with aliens for years.
And this by no means refers to immigrants, with Eshed clarifying the existence of a "Galactic Federation."
The 87-year-old former head of the Defense Ministry's Space Division gave further descriptions about exactly what sort of agreements have been made between the aliens and the US, which ostensibly have been made because they wish to research and understand "the fabric of the universe." This cooperation includes a secret underground base on Mars, where there are American and alien representatives.
If true, this would coincide with US President Donald Trump's creation of the Space Force as the fifth branch of the US armed forces, though it is unclear how long this sort of relationship, if any, has been going on between the US and its reported extraterrestrial allies.
But Eshed insists that Trump is aware of them, and that he was "on the verge" of disclosing their existence. However, the Galactic Federation reportedly stopped him from doing so, saying they wished to prevent mass hysteria since they felt humanity needed to "evolve and reach a stage where we will... understand what space and spaceships are," Yediot Aharonot reported.
As for why he's chosen to reveal this information now, Eshed explained that the timing was simply due to how much the academic landscape has changed, and how respected he is in academia.
"If I had come up with what I’m saying today five years ago, I would have been hospitalized," he explained to Yediot.
He added that "today, they’re already talking differently. I have nothing to lose. I’ve received my degrees and awards; I am respected in universities abroad, where the trend is also changing.

[MOMFUDSKI]

30. Amusing that someone living in Israel

would speak in terms of "federation". But then I do have a very weird sense of humor.

[Disaffected]

59. WOW, must be a full moon tonight. nt

BTW, the simple fact that something is "documented" goes nowhere in demonstrating its authenticity or factuality.

Another example would be astrology - it is also well documented for anyone to read but never-the-less is demonstrable nonsense. There are many others...

[Beastly Boy]

28. For the last time, Mork, you are messing up our control group!

And putting the whole experiment in jeopardy.

Keep your ego in check and quit your intrusive ramblings on anonymous boards, before you create irreparable damage to the 50 million year undertaking so many of your colleagues staked their reputations on! Or else I will have to fire you.

- Orson

-

[AKwannabe]

122. Thread winner!

NaNoo NaNoo

[Goonch]

29. And they love beef.......

[sarisataka]

35. You didn't address the most important question

Do they all speak with English accents?

[nocoincidences]

37. We are the Junkyard Dog

of the Milky Way.

No way are they letting us out of this Solar System.There was a message in 2010 Space Odyssey. Be happy where you are!

[allegorical oracle]

41. To solve the alien debate once and for all, we could launch several enormous rockets into

space loaded with tons of Earth's plastic garbage on them. We might get a quick response if there are any aliens keeping an eye on what we're doing.

[Demobrat]

42. Actually,

the UFOs are alien children daring each other to knock on the spook house door

[elocs]

43. Hey, it's your fantasy, so have at it. n/t

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

44. This is probably the reason we don't all have flying cars. They were promised sixty years ago.

I think the rest of the galaxy is safe, as long as we don't invent warp drive. So far, we use all our dilithium crystals in vape pens.

[nolabear]

46. Klaatu barada nicto

Not a new idea.

[Wild blueberry]

47. Makes sense

Have thought this since I was a kid.
Thank you.

[Mr.Bill]

48. I bet when they fly past us they roll up their windows and lock their doors. n/t

[Disaffected]

49. Nice theory but it collapses at the first sentence.

&quot Please don't ask me how I know this. Just grant me a bit of trust here.)"

Nah. How do you know this?

[orleans]

54. link?

("link"!!)

[Marcuse]

55. They've done enough already.

[paleotn]

56. To a species that's figured out how to traverse interstellar space...

much less intergalactic space, to them we'd be not better than our view of Homo habilis. Intelligent? Well...sorta. They might not be all that interested in us.

[hunter]

58. Most humans wouldn't recognize an alien intelligence if it bit them on the ass.

In any case, I'm pretty sure the speed of light is absolute. Faster-than-light travel and time travel, which would be two aspects of the same thing, are simply impossible in this universe.

That puts a severe limit on the kinds of trouble any spacefaring species could get into and that's okay.

Star Trek is fantasy, not science fiction.

End of story.

Believing that space aliens are visiting earth is no more rational than believing angels or demons walk among us. (This is of course exactly something a demon such as myself would say...)

Be that as it may, when I look up at the Milky Way on a clear night away from any city I don't have any urge to populate it with imaginary beings. It's wonderful as it is.

[Martin Eden]

62. Big Star Trek/Sci-Fi fan here

Star Trek offers a hopeful vision of a more advanced human civilization which for the most part has outgrown the worst aspects of human nature that plagued our history, which is one of the reasons why I like it so much. However, I know the storylines with alien species who are almost always humanoids who understand each other (with a universal translator) are pure fiction. In the vastness of our galaxy, I suspect intelligent life is much more diverse not only in terms of physical form but psychological and societal structures as well. Concepts, values, motives, etc. among spacefaring species could make it impossible for intragalactic agreements and cooperative efforts. They may have outgrown the kind of internecine conflicts which threaten our own survival, but interactions with totally alien species are fraught with suspicion, misunderstanding, and potential violence.

I **trust** you reached your conclusions via honest deductive logic, but I think you are anthropomorphizing a bit. I'm not suggesting you necessarily believe in the Star Trek model of humanoids who can readily communicate, but diversity spans a broad spectrum that includes behavior.

Of course, this is all speculation. It's entirely possible that a coalition of species with superior technology and wisdom have suppressed threats by hostile spacefarers and have been monitoring Earth for the reasons you posit.

I think it's fairly obvious that aliens who achieved interstellar travel could destroy us if they wanted. I'm not skeptical that such things are possible. We may perceive the speed of light as an impermeable barrier but our science and technology is still in its infancy, given our first powered flight occurred a mere 120 years ago. If we don't destroy ourselves, where might we be 12,000 years from now?

What I am a bit skeptical about are the ostensible errors made by highly advanced aliens with technology beyond our ken resulting in sightings, crashes, and their own corpses being found. I'm not entirely ruling out sightings and possible abductions (the need for specimens to examine) but I think most of the reports are hokum.

However, I do lean toward Fox Mulder's belief:

We are not alone.

[Jazz Jon]

63. Makes Sense

That scenario sounds reasonable.

I want to say my peace here, however:

Thousands of people have come foward over the past 75 years telling their stories of UFO sightings. They have picked up physical evidence only to have it confiscated, followed by threats to stay silent or else.
Good photographic evidence still exists, like the many photos taken by many people of the lights hovering over Washington in the1960's. (Did i get the year right?)

There are three preferreed methods that people interested in keeping this secret use to keep us in the dark

Denial - "It was a weather balloon or the planet Venus." OK, so a large silent black colored triangular craft hovering 100 feet overhead was the planet Venus viewed at dusk!

Misinformation- Very badly done hoaxes and the most nonsensical outlandish stories, and films, some made by charlatans, but others planted on Purpose to "show" us how stupid it all sounds... to smear the actual good evidence.

The blanket moronic starement: "There is no evidence" That one is just a lie. Lookup the term " coverup" in the dictionary. Somebody perpetrating a coverup is not going to give you the evidence. There are thousands of eyewitness statements instead.

We have been visited by extraterrestrials. Just face it.

[Stuart G]

65. NOT NEW...A MOVIE WAS MADE IN THE EARLY 50S..."DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL"

IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT..THEN SEE IT. ............that is all I can say....


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3_tt_8_nm_0_q_The%2520Day%2520the%2520Earth%2520Stood%2520%2520St

[Duncan Grant]

115. Michael Rennie was ill the day the earth stood still...

But he told us where we stand.
And Flash Gordon was there
In silver underwear.
Claude Raines was the invisible man…

[moniss]

66. Maybe.

But one of the failings of humans is to think that in order for something to exist it must be detectable by our senses or limited detection methods/hardware. We keep listening for electronic signals, radio waves etc. because that is what we know. Well humans there are planets and systems far older than Earth and to look at our own evolution as beings over many thousands of years and not think that "beings" evolving over many millions or billions of years wouldn't be way past radio waves for example is the height of stupidity and hubris. We keep talking about looking for "communication" or "contact" but expect to experience it by our own definitions. There may have been all kinds of "communications" coming our way but we don't have the ability for now to perceive them. Look at how little we knew or were capable of discerning 200 years ago compared to now.

So because our capabilities currently limit us to being conveyed in a vehicle or ship we assume that other intelligent life would do the same. Maybe. But by limiting our thinking/perception in the way I've described we may well miss what in fact has already happened and the irony is that somewhere there may well be some other intelligent form of life that is trying to communicate with us by methods they know and understand but that we do not perceive as such. It may be as perplexing and frustrating for them to receive no response from us just as we listen in vain to radio waves etc. without result. But as sure as you can count on a Republican to be stupid you can also count on the idea that 200 years from now (should we survive) our descendants will look back and marvel at how little we knew compared to them. Hopefully any of those trying to contact us will understand and keep trying despite our seeming to be "deaf and blind". But we need to open our minds to developing not just better "receivers" for means we already use for perception but to open our minds to the possibilities of more than light, electricity and radio waves.

At least that's what they told me the last time they visited.

[Snackshack]

67. I wholeheartedly agree.

They came when all we had were basically sticks and stones to throw at them.

Weapons grade fissile material changed all that.

Now they stand back and watch. Every now and then they need a little closer inspection e.g. the “Tic Tac” incident.

That’s it. They don’t give 2 💩’s about us as great grandma used to say (she had no filter). They just don’t want us to spread.

[OMGWTF]

68. I'm guessing we've been very closely monitored ever since we detonated nuclear bombs.

[ancianita]

70. I can live with this reality. Meantime,

I've got a good book to recommend re aliens:

[electric_blue68]

87. I loved that book. Supposed to be making it into a movie. A bit of a tease - this is *not* your...

average humanoid intelligence. Very interestingly thought out. 👍

[ancianita]

90. Me, too. It would be an amazing film if Hollywood could do it.

But then came Jackson, who stayed true to the details, spirit and epic sweep of the Lord of the Rings. CGI has done a lot for sci fi. But to portray the alien in Project Hail Mary? that would take some doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Hail_Mary

[electric_blue68]

91. Definitely a whole lotta computing power for that alien! ...

I read LOTR at around 12 yrs old after one of my favorite aunt's gifted me The Hobbit.


I loved Peter J's LOTR films! Got see them all on the big screen more than once. Esp the last one in Imax! 👍🧡

[ancianita]

92. Found this. Glad that Matt Damon is the lead, since his mom was a teacher.

Or Ryan Gosling, as the case may be.
Just the idea of us being able to go to Tau Ceti, the how and why, and the alien he meets, is amazing.

[Pinback]

71. I always hoped this was a documentary:

[orangecrush]

72. Our species

Are imprisoned and chained to this planet.

Our biological composition makes interplanetary travel impossible for us. (Except perhaps to Mars).

Was there an alien race that was so warlike and murderous, that they were defeated, and marooned here, or perhaps had their DNA spliced to primates knowing we would evolve, and our only hope is to grow out of our violent, selfish ways?

That's another interesting thing about AI.

Machines, thinking machines can be made that will be capable of interplanetary travel.

Perhaps even a biological human brain/machine hybrid, that can be constantly renewed by a similar process used now to create meat from animals without killing them. The brain would never die.

The trouble is, by the time the thousands of light years have passed for such a craft to reach its destination, we will have brought about our own extinction.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

74. KR NT

[chowder66]

76. We are the aliens, my friends. nt

[AndyS]

78. Klaatu barada nikto. nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

79. Or you can take the Stephen Hawking POV on aliens

Stephen Hawking Warns Us to Stop Reaching Out to Aliens Before It's Too Late

When the potential of intelligent alien civilisations comes up in conversation, it's usually about the search. How will we find them? Where are they? Are they there at all? What actions should we take if – or when – we find them, or they find us?

Well, according to physicist Stephen Hawking, we should probably stop trying to contact them at all, because reaching out to advanced civilisations could put humanity and Earth in a pretty risky situation. And the bad news is, we've already been broadcasting our location to the Universe for years.

Hawking's warning comes in a new online film called Stephen Hawking's Favourite Places, which shows the famed scientist in a CGI spacecraft called the SS Hawking exploring his favourite places in the Universe.

-snip-

Despite Hawking's extraordinary effort to find intelligent life in the Universe, he is one of the most outspoken critics of actually trying to communicate with them, an act that he says would potentially endanger humanity, because a distant alien civilisation might view us as inferior, weak, and perfect to conquer.

https://www.sciencealert.com/stephen-hawking-warns-that-we-might-not-want-to-reach-out-to-aliens

Can't say he didn't have a point. Look how we treated less advanced civilizations on our planet.

[AKwannabe]

123. Have you seen Battleship?

Omg. Hokey AF but it touches on the contact thing and that part is scary AF!


https://www.google.com/search?q=battleship+movie&client=safari&sca_esv=560124145&channel=iphone_bm&sxsrf=AB5stBjpgH1hG_oN6st7Haq-LkKtJJGQ4w%3A1692988927940&ei=__XoZN6AOfisptQPotuCsAs&gs_ssp=eJzj4tLP1TdIyrAoSS82YPQSSEosKclJLc7ILFDIzS_LTAUAlfMKWw&oq=battleship+movie&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIhBiYXR0bGVzaGlwIG1vdmllKgIIADIIEC4YsQMYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQLhiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEC4YgAQyBRAAGIAESPhNUNIWWOY6cAN4AZABAJgB-gGgAeUPqgEGMy4xMS4yuAEByAEA-AEBqAIPwgIKEAAYRxjWBBiwA8ICChAjGIoFGOoCGCfCAgcQIxjqAhgnwgILEC4YigUYsQMYgwHCAgQQABgDwgIREC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYxwEY0QPCAggQABiABBixA8ICBBAuGCfCAgcQIxiKBRgnwgIEECMYJ8ICFBAuGIoFGLEDGIMBGMcBGNEDGJECwgIHEAAYigUYQ8ICCxAAGIoFGLEDGJECwgIOEC4YgAQYsQMYxwEY0QPCAg4QABiKBRixAxiDARiRAsICCxAAGIoFGMkDGJECwgIIEAAYgAQYkgPCAggQABiKBRiSA8ICDBAAGIoFGEMYRhj5AcICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgILEC4YgAQYsQMY1ALCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAcICCxAuGNQCGLEDGIAEwgIOEC4YigUYsQMYxwEYrwHCAg4QLhivARjHARixAxiABMICCxAuGK8BGMcBGIAEwgILEC4YgAQYxwEYrwHiAwQYACBBiAYBkAYI&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=vclbx

[Red Mountain]

80. Man's tryin' to keep us down.....

Not to worry. We have a secret weapon....

This is a documentary.

[Quixote1818]

81. Got to thinking about this. If they are watching us then they would have killed Trump off. LOL

[Xolodno]

88. I know this is for shits and giggles...but...

...its actually a pretty good hypothesis. Watching us from afar to see if we get our act together or destroy ourselves and they turn the planet into a space archeological dig. Perhaps rehabilitate the planet for the remaining plant and animal life, minus us of course.

And I think its down right naive to think they use propulsion technology to traverse long distances. They would probably use some sort of "folding space" or some sort of version of what we call teleportation to travel. Our minds just haven't just imagined it yet or we haven't advanced far enough to understand the capability.

[Renew Deal]

98. It is VERY risky for them to make contact.

Because we will instantly want to know how they did it and if we solve that problem, we are a threat.

[Xolodno]

120. Precisely.

The first thing we would probably build would be warships. We are way too war like.

[Kaleva]

89. They are here to probe our asses

[Renew Deal]

95. That is one of the theories.

The theory is that we're too dumb to deal with them. The theory is that to them we are basically the equivalent of ants to humans.

[DemocraticPatriot]

99. I guess you're a "Trekkie" ???

LOL "The Next Generation" and all the rest...

Which movie was that, where we achieved a particular speed of rocket travel,
which forced them to recognize and contact us? lol


From what I saw of the UFO shows on the History Channel,
it now seems somewhat plausible to me
that we were "planted" here by them--

and mistook them for gods....


Personally, I am rather disappointed how we have lost momentum in the exploration of space,
since the Kennedy challenge got us to the moon before the end of the 60s
(when I was a small child)

Oh well...

[Snooper9]

103. First sentence, numbers are wrong

Billions not Millions- Everything after that is a false dichotomy.

you should listen to this though while drinking a (drink of choice)

[ecstatic]

112. lol. I would not have asked how you know this, but now I have to

because of the last line in your OP. Are you from another planet?

ETA: Don't bother answering because your answer won't be believed regardless. lol

[raccoon]

116. Dayum, I thought they were coming to save the world from right-wing dipshits.

[librechik]

119. I think they are here to teach us how to think in quantum physics terms as a population.

Like learning a foreign language to the point where you are dreaming in that language. If we could do what they do, we could also travel the universe.

Yes, I saw "Arrival." That's the story, more or less.

[AKwannabe]

124. I had so much fun reading in this OP!

Hilarious and worth the time I spent with over a hundred replies.



You have had some DUzzzy! OPs the last few days. Can’t believe I missed this one July 29 but then I remembered was traveling.

Be safe out there! 😉