When their hatred backfires.

[Swede]

Two Moms for Liberty members in San Diego thought they could stop a library from displaying LGBTQ books during pride month, so they checked out EVERY book, and sent an email saying they would refuse to return them unless the library promised to permanently remove them.

Link to tweet

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[okaawhatever]

1. That's epic. You'll never see one of those "moms" check out a copy of the Constitution. nt

[SpankMe]

44. Or the bible. n/t

[kimbutgar]

2. I hope the late fines are doubled for these ignorant women.

[Skittles]

3. they should be arrested for extortion

disgraceful behavior

[tanyev]

4. My library no longer charges late fines,

but they do shut your account down until materials are returned. You can’t even check out ebooks until the overdue item is returned or paid for. I think that’s more than fair.

[FreeState]

14. San Diego did away with late fees in 2018

https://www.sandiego.gov/department-document/san-diego-public-library-stop-charging-late-fees

[Moosepoop]

22. Yes, but -- they charge for replacement if the books are not returned.

https://www.sandiego.gov/nolatefees

Overdue Materials Policy

The San Diego Public Library is no longer charging users a daily overdue fee for items returned late. Under this new policy, items can be checked out for their standard loan period and, if eligible, renewed up to five times. Library cardholders are responsible for returning or renewing items to prevent their library card from being blocked or barred.

Materials are considered late one day after they are due to the Library. Library card holders may still renew items currently checked out, use our e-resources and access the Internet at any of the 36 San Diego Public Library locations.

If you have an overdue item, your library card will be blocked and you will not be able to check out any additional items. You are still able to use the library and renew other materials you have checked out.

We will send you an email when your Library materials are seven, 14, and 30 days overdue to alert you that you must return or renew them. When materials are 60 days overdue the Library considers the items lost and will mail you a bill for the cost of the items. Your library card will be barred, preventing you from renewing or checking out items. If you return the item in good condition within two months of the bill, the replacement fee will be waived.

When materials are 90 days overdue, if you haven’t returned materials or paid the bill, you will be mailed an invoice. If the invoice is not paid within 30 days, your debt will be transferred to the Office of the City Treasurer. Your library card will be barred until the Library Department is notified by the City Treasurer that the invoice and service fees have been paid.

I don't know how aggressive the City Treasurer's office is in pursuing library collections, but I would imagine they have the resources to do so if they chose to. I hope they choose to, if it comes to that.

[TheBlackAdder]

25. But these people made their intentions of stealing them know. If over $950, grand theft/larceny.

.

Don't nail them for dues, go after them for a criminal record.

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[Baitball Blogger]

5. And the Moms for Liberty now have a permanent record.

Those late fees are going to add up.

[Arazi]

6. I suspect they're now banned from the library

You can’t steal the books and continue to have privileges there

[Rebl2]

20. Would hope so

Cancel their library cards, if there is such a thing anymore.

[byronius]

7. San Diego!

Is not Texas.

[paleotn]

8. They're certainly not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

If they were, they'd be Dems.

[Upthevibe]

9. Swede..........

Those effing idiots need to be charged for the books. You talk about a lack of critical thinking skills, did they not realize new books would be bought and displayed?!?!?!

[littlemissmartypants]

19. I wouldn't be surprised if they burned those books the same day they were checked out. eom

[Escurumbele]

27. They have MAGAt brains, you would not expect any critical thinking from them, would you?

MAGAts show their inability to think every day, MTG is the champion of stupidity, she is a great example of their lack of brain, and their leader too of course.

[James48]

10. Extortion is a felony.

Report them.

[Chainfire]

11. If they took the books with no intention of returning them, they are guilty of theft.

Since they want old-time values, the appropriate punishment would be horsewhipping on the pillory. They are so wise that they feel justified in telling the rest of us how to live.

[Cha]

12. BlowBackFires Spectacularly!!

[TNNurse]

13. I believe that might be theft.

[Duppers]

29. Indeed. And they should be charged.

[Lonestarblue]

15. It would be interesting to know who is funding Moms for Liberty.

My bet is on Leonard Leo, the billionaire Catholic misogynist and bigot who got six right-wing religious radicals on the SC.

I am currently reading a book about the role women and parents played in preserving segregation and Jim Crow laws, as well as quietly ensuring that textbooks portrayed the Civil War not as a fight to maintain slavery but as a states’ rights issue and neglected any mention of the evils of slavery. Women’s groups and their leaders were instrumental in protests and book banning. I suspect Moms for Liberty is simply copying their tactics but also applying them to LGBTQ+.

If anyone is interested, the book is Mothers of Massive Resistence, White Women and the Politics of White Supremacy, by Elizabeth Gillespie McRae.

[inthewind21]

47. Well

since they were just founded in Jan 2023 there's not much info yet but you can see some of it here. Goggle is a beautiful thing!

https://www.mediamatters.org/critical-race-theory/unmasking-moms-liberty

[sakabatou]

16. So extortion and theft of property.

They're fucking idiots.

[AllaN01Bear]

17. i read a story about this a while back. loved the outcome . who do these so and sos think who they

r?

[blueknight73]

18. I grew up with a girl

That WAS arrested for not returning some library books her kids checked out. She was even on Oprah telling about it.

[Blue Owl]

21. Moms for Flibbity

[elleng]

23. backfires. !!!!!

[prodigitalson]

24. One characteristic of a fascist mindset is immediate gratification by tormenting their chosen enemy

there are so many examples of fascistic hind lizard brain lashings out throughout the history of fascism and general right wing authoriatinism. it is often counterproductive in the short run. but they often parley it into mythos for further collective action.

[Ligyron]

26. How on earth could they check out every book in the library?

I don't know how big that library is or how many books but wouldn't that raise a few alarm bells?

"Good morning (smiles) we'd like to check out every book in this library."

"Oh sure, no problem. Just back your rent a truck from Hertz up to the front door and we'll help you load them."

or: "Uh, suuure, just let me make a phone call here..."

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

31. If you do it as a team

You can get them all.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

33. Also:

I'm guessing that they got the books at that one library.

It would have been a lot...but maybe not. Depends on the library. Some branch libraries can be on the small side, even in a large city.

I just took a look at the lending rules, and SDPL lets people check out 100 regular books, and then 100 "express" books, which are publisher loans.

So two people could have easily checked out 400 books, which could have been the entire LGBT collection at a small branch.

[Ligyron]

37. I must have not read the OP correctly...

If it was just the LGBT books they stole, then sure no problem.

Just get a team together as suggested and they'd no doubt just figure the collection was real popular.

"They're flying off the shelves. Maybe we should order more on that subject?"

Little did they know...

[Silent3]

38. The wording of the tweet is sloppy, so there's reason for confusion...

...but, yeah, I'm pretty sure it means just every LGBTQ book.

[inthewind21]

48. I don;t think

they checked out EVERY BOOK. Just the LBGT ones is what I would guess.

[Ligyron]

50. Yeah, as was said, the quote made it seem that ALL books were checked out.

...or at least that's how I read it and I can't be alone in this as evidenced by other poster's confusion too.

It obviously applied to books addressing LQBTQ issues and they were probably all checked out in batches by a team over a short period of time so it didn't raise any alarm bells.

Their theft of these books failed to achieve their objective spectacularly.

Now the library is gay as it can be!

[jmowreader]

28. Something doesn't add up here

Libraries normally limit the number of books you can check out at a time. How did two women get every LGBTQ book in the collection? It had to be hundreds of them.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

32. I'm guessing they had help

That we haven't heard about yet.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

34. Also, see above about the lending rules

They could have checked out up to 200 books each. At a small enough branch, that could have been an entire LGBT collection.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

30. If I'd been the library

I would have called the cops and filed charges against them for felony theft.

Because that's what it is.

[Whatthe_Firetruck]

35. Wouldn't amount to theft? n/t

[keithbvadu2]

36. Stories about super Christians who rented dirty movies and kept them.

Stories about super Christians who rented dirty movies and kept them.

They got mad when their credit cards were charged for the sale of the movies.

[halfulglas]

39. But public libraries don't require you to have a credit card on file.

[JuJuChen]

40. My city is VERY PRO LGBTQ so trying to pull that crap in San Diego is laughable

[Scalded Nun]

41. Premeditated robbery and subsequent extortion. Sounds like criminal behavior to be.

And if done under the flag of 'Moms for Liberty' would that not also qualify as gang-related or RICO behavior?

[inthewind21]

49. RICO

Over a stupid stunt at the library? Maybe execution is in order too. These bitches are just that. Bitches. Yes they puled a stunt, and it backfired spectacularly. Now the library has a chunk of change to buy more. It's actually a win for the library.

[Maine Abu El Banat]

42. Can't we just call them

Hags for Hatred

[sellitman]

43. Nazi Mom's For Hatred works too.

Shameful group of haters.

[pwb]

45. We have a lot of dumb fucks in this country who think they are clever.

These dumb shits are trying to claim the word Liberty means to take away? Fuck me.

[Aristus]

46. The actions of people who say "liberry".

Good for the people of San Diego. Stick it to them.

[Joinfortmill]

51. Love this.