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Right-wing propaganda has really messed with people's heads (Original Post) RAB910 Jul 2023 OP
Yes it has. I know otherwise very well educated people who buy ANYTHING oldsoftie Jul 2023 #1
I ran into an old foreman I had back in the 1980's last Emile Jul 2023 #2
Well I am not blaming Joe Biden but I am retired also and my doc03 Jul 2023 #7
Except for the companies making record profits during this time ck4829 Jul 2023 #8
I was talking to a lift yourself up by the bootstraps republican. Emile Jul 2023 #9
good job, no wonder he had to go treestar Jul 2023 #31
LBJ knew Mysterian Jul 2023 #3
Just a thought RVN VET71 Jul 2023 #25
the satellite dish is a nice touch Skittles Jul 2023 #4
I have a friend that fears regulations that don' exist Ohioboy Jul 2023 #5
Manager or owner? Might make the difference. czarjak Jul 2023 #6
Yeah, his "regulations" were probably his owner not being willing to Ferrets are Cool Jul 2023 #13
He was worried regulations wouldn't allow him to ... Trueblue Texan Jul 2023 #17
Bingo! n/t Quakerfriend Jul 2023 #22
You may have a point Ohioboy Jul 2023 #27
Ahhh, the ever present boogeyman giving idiots a mysterious scapegoat since the beginning of time. littlemissmartypants Jul 2023 #19
Thanks for your post. I'm going to bookmark that site Ohioboy Jul 2023 #32
He would know about them from the first 8 treestar Jul 2023 #33
Most houses that I have seen with MAGA flags look like that and doc03 Jul 2023 #10
And Trump isn't even the most messed up manifestation of all of it ck4829 Jul 2023 #11
He validates their HATE Ferrets are Cool Jul 2023 #12
I see countless "houses" like this in western PA & east OH Orrex Jul 2023 #14
Same here in Indiana. Emile Jul 2023 #15
Iowa too sad but true. Rupert's Rabies, Hate Radio in every pickup and tractor 24/7 IA8IT Jul 2023 #26
I do a lot of work in people's houses... Orrex Jul 2023 #28
Same here in Illinois. My town is covered in worse than this. Midnight Writer Jul 2023 #34
And believe it or not... Trueblue Texan Jul 2023 #16
People in places like that sometimes send the rump monthly donations. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #18
People who live in a home like that rambler_american Jul 2023 #20
100% correct Orrex Jul 2023 #29
We have two places like that in our community. murielm99 Jul 2023 #21
Yes it has- with some of the uber rich as well. Quakerfriend Jul 2023 #23
Most of his supporters don't live like that JI7 Jul 2023 #24
FWIW, median income in my county is $27K Orrex Jul 2023 #30
 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
1. Yes it has. I know otherwise very well educated people who buy ANYTHING
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 06:59 AM
Jul 2023

I know a very good lawyer who INSISTED to me that Covid 19 was called that because it was the 19th version of Covid. And that, at that time, "EVERYONE in Israel has been infected even though they have high vax rates!"
I sat there, wrote on a piece of paper that I'd donate $500 to her favorite charity if she could show me ANY actual proof of either by the end of the day & signed it. She was SO excited.
To her credit, she DID call me at the end of the day & admitted that she "got mixed up on the actual numbers". Then she followed with a lot of "but"s
And I told her to use this as proof that she needs to get better sources of info

Emile

(42,289 posts)
2. I ran into an old foreman I had back in the 1980's last
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 07:15 AM
Jul 2023

week. I remember him spewing right wing garbage in the break room years ago. Both of us are retired now and one of the first things to come out of his mouth was how bad Joe Biden's economy is and how he can't afford to go anywhere. I knew that was bullshit because his pension wasn't done away with like the hourly workers. I said I'm sorry to hear that, you should have saved your money and invested it. Have you thought about buying an electric car? He said had to go, lol.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
7. Well I am not blaming Joe Biden but I am retired also and my
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 07:46 AM
Jul 2023

standard of living has been severely affected from inflation. When I retired in 2010 I had a fixed $1900 per
month pension check. Today after inflation that has lost the buying power of $542 a month that is $6500
a year. With the COLA SS has at least kept up. I have had to cut back, I have stopped taking my winter
vacation to Florida partially because of that and car prices the way they are now I suppose I won't be buying
any new cars soon. A recession hurts some people that lose their jobs but inflation hurts everyone.

Emile

(42,289 posts)
9. I was talking to a lift yourself up by the bootstraps republican.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 07:55 AM
Jul 2023

I couldn't resist throwing it right back at him.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
31. good job, no wonder he had to go
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 10:35 AM
Jul 2023
So easy to get them on the contradiction when they complain. They usually claim to have a good job and to be successful.

When gas prices first went up, I told one of them that it was too bad they could not afford the new prices. They want into a tailspin claiming to have a big truck, etc. They could see the contradiction.

Mysterian

(6,486 posts)
3. LBJ knew
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 07:27 AM
Jul 2023

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

LBJ to Bill Moyers

RVN VET71

(3,192 posts)
25. Just a thought
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 09:51 AM
Jul 2023

If it were possible to take the best of Johnson and the best of Nixon, you'd have the best of presidents and a decent human being.

Johnson was a lot smarter than people (and the media) thought he was. Nixon wa not nearly as smart as he thought he was.

But LBJ died in Vietnam and Tricky Dicky committed political suicide. Free LBJ from the glue-pot of Vietnam, and place Nixon under the influence of an advisor better equipped with a moral soul than scabrous Henry Kissinger, and they both may have earned a shot at an updated Mt. Rushmore.

Ohioboy

(3,893 posts)
5. I have a friend that fears regulations that don' exist
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 07:37 AM
Jul 2023

He was the manager of a small landscaping company of about 8 employees. He once told me he had so much business he needed to hire more people, but couldn't "because of all the regulations". When I asked him specifically what regulations were keeping him from hiring he couldn't even name one. He just had it in his head that there too many regulations keeping him from expanding his business.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,957 posts)
13. Yeah, his "regulations" were probably his owner not being willing to
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 08:08 AM
Jul 2023

pay for more employees because it would cut into HIS profit.

Trueblue Texan

(4,466 posts)
17. He was worried regulations wouldn't allow him to ...
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 09:00 AM
Jul 2023

...effectively enslave undocumented individuals.

Ohioboy

(3,893 posts)
27. You may have a point
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 10:25 AM
Jul 2023

I hadn't thought of that. He was just the manager and not the owner. There may have been some things he wasn't supposed to talk about.

I was just taking it from the standpoint that he was the type who always complained about the government keeping him down, even though he always did well and made plenty of money.

littlemissmartypants

(33,593 posts)
19. Ahhh, the ever present boogeyman giving idiots a mysterious scapegoat since the beginning of time.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 09:06 AM
Jul 2023

Because Gawd knows there has to be someone else beside themselves to blame for their white-hot incompetence and laziness.

Just another ingredient in the FUD cocktail that keeps them drunk with anger and anxiety. Pure balderdash!

Weak-mindedness should be one of the seven deadly sins.



10 definite signs of a weak-minded person
by Paul Brian
2 years ago
Snip...
1) Blaming others for your problems
Snip...
2) Seeking frequent external validation
Snip...
3) Being overly trusting
Snip...
4) Embracing a victim mentality
Snip...
5) Reveling in self-pity
Snip...
6) Lacking resilience
Snip...
7) Obsessing and over-analyzing
Snip...
8) Being consumed by envy
Snip...
9) Refusing to forgive and move on
Snip...
And finally,
10) Focusing on what you can’t control.

In depth discussion at the link...

https://ideapod.com/signs-of-a-weak-minded-person/


❤️pants

treestar

(82,383 posts)
33. He would know about them from the first 8
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 10:38 AM
Jul 2023

the experience of employing them.

Right wingers are so hilarious. They spout that libertarian crap but can't articulate how it supposedly affects them.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
10. Most houses that I have seen with MAGA flags look like that and
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 07:56 AM
Jul 2023

even worse. I have even seen them in the homeless camps.

ck4829

(37,761 posts)
11. And Trump isn't even the most messed up manifestation of all of it
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 07:57 AM
Jul 2023

You've got people thinking bankruptcy from medical bills or kids hiding from mass shooters are all forms of "freedom", wow.

IA8IT

(6,424 posts)
26. Iowa too sad but true. Rupert's Rabies, Hate Radio in every pickup and tractor 24/7
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 10:17 AM
Jul 2023

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
28. I do a lot of work in people's houses...
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 10:30 AM
Jul 2023

and Fux Noise and/or NoozMax is on in most of them, typically as background noise, pumping lies and hate into them nonstop.

In a few notable cases, I've seen customers sitting wide-eyed and vacant in front of their tv for the several hours that I'm on-site, and they simply absorb the endless stream of propaganda.

It's horrifying to witness. The people are almost always very pleasant to me, but that's likely because they see me, a middle aged white dude in a blue collar job, as a kindred spirit, and I certainly don't engage in matters of politics while I'm working.

But it's clear that they're internalizing the hate and bullshit.

Trueblue Texan

(4,466 posts)
16. And believe it or not...
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 08:58 AM
Jul 2023

...this is one of the nicer homes of the impoverished folks who support TFG...believe me, it gets much worse. You want to feel bad for them, but you just can't keep them from shooting themselves in the foot.

rambler_american

(932 posts)
20. People who live in a home like that
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 09:11 AM
Jul 2023

support people like trump because people like trump convince people who live in homes like that that they are better than Black people, and that people like trump will make sure that Black people stay in their place and assure the people that live in homes like that will always have someone else to look down upon.

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
29. 100% correct
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 10:32 AM
Jul 2023

Echoes of LBJ.

Trump has glorified their hatred and has validated their persecution fantasies, so they will worship him until the last of them is dead.

murielm99

(32,988 posts)
21. We have two places like that in our community.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 09:19 AM
Jul 2023

They are right on the main highway, right next to each other. I pity their nearby neighbors. One of them has a perpetual garage sale going. I don't understand why there are not zoning laws in town that could deal with their messes.

They have "Pritzker Sucks" signs in their yards also. You have to look though all the junk to see them. The state of their property and the crudeness of their expression says more about them than the signs say about anyone else.

Quakerfriend

(5,882 posts)
23. Yes it has- with some of the uber rich as well.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 09:32 AM
Jul 2023

Had lunch with a friend recently and she was spewing all the R-wing propaganda. She is a very wealthy business owner & highly educated + brilliant.

So, I asked her where she gets her news-
the answer came back, “NewsMax”.

I asked, just NewsMax???

And, I said, Well there’s the problem!

She sheepishly admitted that maybe pshe should read other sources.

JI7

(93,617 posts)
24. Most of his supporters don't live like that
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 09:36 AM
Jul 2023

and those that do are supporting him becsuse they hate minorities so he is lookiing out for them on the things important to them.

While they may not be wealthy I don't think this indicates they are poor either.

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